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Home » Polmar's Perspective » Japan Launches Carrier…Sorta

Japan Launches Carrier…Sorta

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The Japanese Navy — offi­cially the Maritime Self-​​Defense Force — has launched an air­craft car­rier. At least the Hyuga, launched at Yokohama on August 23, looks like an air­craft car­rier — she has a flush flight deck and a large, starboard-​​side island struc­ture. But the Hyuga is a rel­a­tively small ship as car­ri­ers go, with a stan­dard dis­place­ment of 13,500 (met­ric) tonnes and will dis­place 18,000 tonnes full load. That is about the size of the planned U.S. destroy­ers of the Zumwalt (DDG 1000) class.

The Hyuga is clas­si­fied as a helicopter-​​carrying destroyer (DDH 181) by the Japanese. She will carry an Aegis-​​type air defense sys­tem, with the U.S.-developed AN/​SPY-​​1 multi-​​function radar; her prin­ci­pal weapons arma­ment will be 64 advanced ESSM-​​type Sparrow mis­siles. She will also be fit­ted with two 20-​​mm Phalanx Gatling guns for close-​​in defense against anti-​​ship mis­siles, and she will have six tubes for anti-​​submarine tor­pe­does.
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(EDITOR: Thanks to DT reader “Camp” for links to Hyuga pics…)

More sig­nif­i­cant from an avi­a­tion view­point, the Hyuga will nor­mally oper­ate three SH-​​60J Blackhawk-​​type anti-​​submarine heli­copters and one MH-​​53E Super Stallion multi-​​purpose heli­copter. Reportedly, the ships hangar can accom­mo­date 11 of the smaller aircraft.

Ironically, the U.S. Navy briefly, and mostly at con­gres­sional insis­tence, looked at sim­i­lar aircraft-​​carrying destroyer designs in the 1970s. Based on the U.S. Spruance (DD 963) design, such ships could have oper­ated Harrier VSTOL air­craft as well as heli­copters on a mod­i­fied destroyer hull. (Congress voted fund­ing for two such ships, but instead the Navy sim­ply built another con­ven­tional destroyer.)

The Hyuga, the largest war­ship con­structed in Japan since World War II, is con­sid­ered by some observers to be the first step toward the devel­op­ment of a large air­craft car­rier. Japans con­sti­tu­tion, imposed by the United States after World War II, per­mits Japanese to have only self-​​defense forces. Many Japanese, recall­ing the effec­tive­ness of Japanese air­craft car­ri­ers in China in the 1930s and against U.S. forces in the Pacific in the early stages of World War II, con­sider car­ri­ers to be offen­sive weapons.

Japan was a leader in car­rier devel­op­ment in the 1930s and early 1940 with their short-​​lived car­rier Shinano, which was con­verted dur­ing con­struc­tion from a bat­tle­ship. It was the worlds largest car­rier to be built prior to the USS Forrestal (CVA 59), com­pleted in 1955.

The over­whelm­ing depen­dence of Japan on oil from the Middle East, with tankers hav­ing to tran­sit long ocean dis­tances, and the increas­ing Japanese political-​​economic involve­ment in the Middle East and Africa, has led many Japanese lead­ers to look at the util­ity of naval forces in a new light.

In this con­text, the inno­v­a­tive design of the Hyuga raises the ques­tion: Whats next?

– Norman Polmar

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  1. Camp says:
    August 28, 2007 at 9:41 am

    Hyuga Pics:
    http://​infor​ma​tiondis​sem​i​na​tion​.blogspot​.com/​2​0​0​7​/​0​8​/​m​e​e​t​-​j​a​p​a​n​s​-​n​e​w​-​d​e​s​t​r​o​y​e​r​.​h​tml
    http://​www​.geoc​i​ties​.jp/​d​u​m​b​o​_​s​e​a​l​/​d​u​m​b​o​s​s​e​a​l​_​0​0​2​.​htm
    Hyuga Wiki:
    http://​en​.wikipedia​.org/​w​i​k​i​/​H​y​u​g​a​_​c​l​a​s​s​_​d​e​s​t​r​o​yer
    16DDH “13,500 ton” ton Class (Global Securtiy)
    http://​www​.glob​alse​cu​rity​.org/​m​i​l​i​t​a​r​y​/​w​o​r​l​d​/​j​a​p​a​n​/​d​d​h​-​x​.​htm
    Seems like Stealthy & UCAV will be in fash­ion for this Fall:
    http://​www​.sin​ode​fence​fo​rum​.com/​w​o​r​l​d​-​a​r​m​e​d​-​f​o​r​c​e​s​/​k​o​r​e​a​n​-​s​t​e​a​l​t​h​-​f​i​g​h​t​e​r​-​1​9​2​4​.​h​tml
    http://​en​.wikipedia​.org/​w​i​k​i​/​D​a​s​s​a​u​l​t​_​N​e​u​ron
    http://www.add.re.kr/lab/movie/%BE%C6%C0%BD%BC%D3%C6%C4%C0%CF%B7%B5%C7%B3%B5%BF.wmv
    http://​www​.add​.re​.kr/​l​a​b​/​m​o​v​i​e​/​K​F​X​2​0​1​.​wmv
    This reminds me of Japans Mitsubishi ‘Stealth Fighter’ being devel­oped.
    http://​inven​torspot​.com/​a​r​t​i​c​l​e​s​/​n​e​w​_​j​a​s​d​f​_​s​t​e​a​l​t​h​_​f​i​g​h​t​e​r​_​j​e​t​_​b​e​_​6​254
    Is any­body still devel­op­ing a stealthy heli­copter? Besides what was the RAH-​​66.

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  2. Rob Farley says:
    August 28, 2007 at 9:45 am

    I would prob­a­bly say that the Taiho, rather than the Shinano, rep­re­sented the zenith of Japanese car­rier design. Shinano was very large, but was con­sid­ered a car­rier sup­port ves­sel rather than a true car­rier (she had numer­ous machine shops, sup­plies, and other capa­bil­i­ties nec­es­sary to the oper­a­tion of a car­rier force), and car­ried very few air­craft for her size.
    Like Shinano, Taiho was sunk by a US sub.

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  3. ajay says:
    August 28, 2007 at 11:02 am

    That dis­place­ment isn’t far off an Invincible-​​class car­rier — which were orig­i­nally described as “through-​​deck cruis­ers” for polit­i­cal rea­sons as well…

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  4. ohwilleke says:
    August 28, 2007 at 11:06 am

    It sounds like the right ship for Japan’s needs.
    ASW is a cru­cial need for Japan, since North Korea and China, its biggest likey adver­saries, both have large sub­ma­rine fleets that could be a threat to Japan’s import depen­dent econ­omy in large areas of the West Pacific and the East China Sea. This ship would pack a lot of ASW punch using the same basic plat­forms that the American Navy plans to use (but more con­cen­trated), now that the U.S. Navy has aban­doned an ASW role for the S-​​3, and not yet got­ten a P-​​3 suc­ces­sor ASW plat­form up and run­ning. If Japan begged, bor­rowed or stole a few Harriers or F-​​35Bs in the future, it could even have a for­ward plat­form for a small strike mis­sion against say, North Korean nuclear sites.
    Jet fight­ers have more range than heli­copters, par­tic­u­larly if there aren’t on ASW mis­sions that may require them to patrol back and forth around are par­tic­u­lar sus­pected threat region. Japan’s fight­ers, with tanker assis­tance, at least, can go any­where it needs them to go for its mil­i­tary objec­tives. Japan, unlike the U.S. has no ambi­tions to project mil­i­tary force to Latin America, North America, Africa, Europe or South Asia, and why should it use its resources to keep the oil flow­ing out of the Arabian Pennisula when the European and American mil­i­taries are more than happy to oblige on that point. Even it did want to use its mil­i­tary abroad it would prob­a­bly be in the expa­tri­ate evac­u­a­tion role tra­di­tion­ally served by the U.S. Marine Corps in the third world which this ship is also well suited to car­ry­ing out. If you don’t need to project power over great dis­tances you don’t need a true CV class air­craft carrier.

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  5. mike says:
    August 28, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    my good­ness, that “Son Of Zero” sure is a nice-​​looking piece of air­plane, espe­cially in pro­file…
    camp posted:
    This reminds me of Japans Mitsubishi ‘Stealth Fighter’ being devel­oped.
    http://​inven​torspot​.com/​a​r​t​i​c​l​e​s​/​n​e​w​_​j​a​s​d​f​_​s​t​e​a​l​t​h​_​f​i​g​h​t​e​r​_​j​e​t​_​b​e​_​6​254

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  6. Brian says:
    August 29, 2007 at 4:59 am

    Japan and air­craft car­ri­ers, bad combo! Long live the Imperial Navy!

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  7. Flea says:
    August 29, 2007 at 6:20 am

    Ironically, the U.S. Navy briefly, and mostly at con­gres­sional insis­tence, looked at sim­i­lar aircraft-​​carrying destroyer designs in the 1970s.
    Forgive me if I am being dense: In what way is this ironic?

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  8. Mike C, says:
    August 29, 2007 at 9:56 am

    The irony in it is the fact that the very same design the Japanese just built for “self defense” the United States had pre­vi­ously con­sid­ered using a sim­i­lar design for offense. The Japanese say it will only be for heli­copters when the real­ity is it can eas­ily be con­verted to house small air­crafts, thus going from a defen­sive role to an offen­sive one. You know what they say, some­times the best defense is a good offense.

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  9. Pat Hickey says:
    August 29, 2007 at 10:19 am

    Hyuga — Ain’t that the sound a Sub Makes before it goes nose over?

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  10. navbb62 says:
    August 29, 2007 at 11:43 am

    Japan and car­ri­ers, hmm­m­m­m­m­m­mmm, where have I heard that before.

    Reply
  11. Black Lion says:
    August 29, 2007 at 1:35 pm

    Sodeska!

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  12. supergrunt says:
    August 29, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    Irony…sooner or later the Hyuga will make a port call to Hawaii. Just pic­ture a Japanese car­rier fly­ing her full col­ors, docked in Pearl Harbor

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  13. AnjinSan says:
    August 29, 2007 at 7:47 pm

    I’m sorry — wasn’t that con­sti­tu­tion replaced by one actu­ally devel­oped by the peo­ple of Japan? And parked as close as it is to : Korea, Russia, China, Taiwan, Malasia, etc., etc., I think one stink­ing car­rier is a measely step in an OBVIOUS direction…Let ‘em have it, geeze…

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  14. RTLM says:
    August 29, 2007 at 10:32 pm

    Looks like a good Osprey platform.

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  15. political forum says:
    August 30, 2007 at 6:13 pm

    Japan has sev­eral of these heli­copter car­ri­ers in ser­vice. This is noth­ing new. Helicopters are good for fight­ing sub­marines, which prob­a­bly means Russia and China.
    –roger

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  16. Graham Strouse says:
    September 4, 2007 at 1:06 am

    Based on the lim­ited infor­ma­tion avail­able, Hyuga strikes me as a well-​​purposed design. I like the con­cept of the souped-​​up ASW plat­form. That flight deck is clearly too short (and flat) and the ship is far too small to launch any­thing like an air supe­ri­or­ity fighter–hence the hefty SAM bat­tery. I get the feel­ing there’s a lit­tle Russian influ­ence here: the Russians have for a long time built their sur­face ships on the assump­tion (assum­ing they can afford to main­tain them) that they will have to be able to take care of them­selves against 3-​​D threats & not rely too much on escorts.
    I agree with ohwilleke that Hyuga is prob­a­bly designed with NK & CHN subs in mind. Korea has subs & extremely unsta­ble lead­er­ship. The Chinese, although they gen­er­ally behave quite ratio­nally in affairs of state, have quite likely not for­got­ten Nanking. If there was one coun­try I could see China mov­ing aggres­sively on in some way, it would be Japan or (more likely) Japanese inter­ests. And China has a pretty decent array of (mostly) Russian built subs.
    Anyway, like I said, Hyuga strikes me as a good design. It’s got a mis­sion that it’s well-​​equipped to per­form & it’s economy-​​to-​​utility value is high.

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  17. Graham Strouse says:
    September 4, 2007 at 9:13 am

    Just a wild thought: Why don’t we take some of those Tarawas & Wasps we’re phas­ing out & re-​​purpose them as souped up ASW carriers/​interdiction ships rebuilt after the fash­ion of Hyuga (but on a larger scale) and use them as the core of a TF tasked with watch­ing out for our inter­ests in South America & our lit­tle slice of the Pacific? Wouldn’t be that hard. Cheaper then scrap­ping them & they’d be oper­at­ing mostly an area where ASW & spec force deployment–something else they’d be good at, could come in handy. I’m talk­ing to you, Hugo Chavez. A light­ened ASW ex-​​phib with hopped up engines would also make a could CVN escort. Just think­ing aloud again.

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  18. JMMC62 says:
    September 13, 2007 at 10:40 am

    It is about time… Japan should be a strong power again in a part of the world where we need a pow­er­full friend. WW II ended long ago as did the military-​​political atmos­phere that set the Pacific ablaze. All of the obsolute resraints on Japans mili­ter­i­za­tion are out of date.

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  19. edosan says:
    September 16, 2007 at 8:23 am

    I really think this is a good move for Japan and ben­e­fi­cial for us.
    I still can­not trust a com­mu­nist CHINA, their Navy is mak­ing an attempt for “blue waters” thanks to the Russians and French “sold” tech­nol­ogy and the North Koreans are out of con­trol on the con­ven­tional side, they still kid­nap Japanese Nationals and do pretty reg­u­lar incur­sions in Japanese waters…those are not North Korean “fish­ing” trawlers… they are fish­ing alright…
    more power to the Japanese Self Defense Naval Forces

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  20. Andes Tang says:
    September 21, 2007 at 9:57 am

    »I really think this is a good move for Japan and ben­e­fi­cial for us.
    While ben­e­fi­cial to the United States, since they wouldn’t have to waste as much resources to “defend” Japan if China attacks, the recent mil­i­tary build up in Japan could “hardly” be called as peace­ful. The con­struc­tion of a pocket air­craft car­rier (the pre­cur­sor of a full STOVL) would mean that Japan has blue water ambi­tions, some­thing that goes against their sup­posed peace­ful stance.
    I am all for Japan to get defen­sive weapons, but this can be seen as Japan’s changes towards its mil­i­tary inten­tions. Something the US should be wary about. Since the Chinese doesn’t even have any­thing close to this sort, and the fact that don’t even have enough trans­ports to even attack a small nation such as Taiwan, I think Japan’s gone way over board.
    » more power to the Japanese Self Defense Naval Forces
    More power to Japan, also means higher ten­sions between China and Japan. Is this some­thing you should really be look­ing for­ward to? I’d rather the Chinese just keep mak­ing their brown water navy (which won’t even come close to that of the United States or even Russia and Britain) than invoke them into cre­at­ing a blue water navy capa­ble of strik­ing us from any­where.
    If China actu­ally becomes deter­mined to build air­craft car­ri­ers in the next few years, I am going to blame the Japanese for being war­mon­ger­ing (when they keep spew­ing their non-​​sense about being peace keepers).

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  23. Carney says:
    October 14, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    The Japanese more than most have suf­fered greatly from depen­dence on for­eign oil. In fact, just before World War 2 when the US (which had most of the world’s oil pro­duc­tion and known oil reserves at the time) embar­goed oil to Japan in the wake of Japanese aggres­sion in China, the Japanese were des­per­ate for another source. The Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia) was and is oil-​​rich, but sit­ting smack in between the Indies and Japan is the Philippines (then a US colony). Thus we were astride their sea lanes and had a knife to their oil jugu­lar. Japan decided it had to con­quer the Philippines as well and thus fight the US. The best plan for that was to sink our entire fleet at once after which we would make a deal — thus Pearl Harbor. Of course it all ended in utter ruin and dis­as­ter for Japan.
    Now they’re mak­ing the same mis­take again — decid­ing that the key is to build up a pow­er­ful navy to pro­tect their sea lanes and access to oil.
    Instead they should just read the book “Energy Victory” by for­mer NASA rocket sci­en­tist and nuclear engi­neer Dr. Robert Zubrin and “The Methanol Economy” by Nobel Prize win­ning chemist Dr. George Olah.
    Zubrin advo­cates nuclear power (for respon­si­ble 1st World nations) for elec­tric­ity and alcohol-​​based fuels for land and sea trans­porta­tion needs.
    Cars and sim­i­lar light-​​duty vehi­cles can be flex-​​fueled, a small and cheap ($130 for automak­ers) change from cur­rent specs, but which would add com­pat­i­bil­ity with ethanol, methanol, propanol, and butanol to gasoline-​​burning vehi­cles. Methanol can be made from coal, nat­ural gas, or any bio­mass with­out excep­tion, includ­ing fast-​​growing weeds, crop residues, trash, and even sewage. It’s clean burn­ing (no smog), biodegrad­able in water, higher octane than gaso­line, and because its resource base is so vast and var­ied, can­not have its mar­ket “cor­nered” and the price jacked up — methanol is and will always be cheap.
    Diesel class vehi­cles, such as trains and heavy duty trucks, as well as seago­ing ves­sels (includ­ing war­ships), can use di-​​methyl ether (DME) instead of petro-​​diesel. DME is made from react­ing methanol to itself.
    Also, DME can be used as a source mate­r­ial for polypropy­lene and poly­eth­yl­ene, the two major forms of plas­tic that are ubiq­ui­tous today.
    Thus, Japan can lib­er­ate itself from much of its need for oil, and its need to build air­craft car­ri­ers that add to regional ten­sions.
    This of course is true for China, India, and the rest of the world as well.

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