<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Return of the “Elephant Gun”</title> <atom:link href="http://defensetech.org/2007/08/29/return-of-the-elephant-gun/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/08/29/return-of-the-elephant-gun/</link> <description>The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:25:49 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: stephen russell</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/08/29/return-of-the-elephant-gun/#comment-166084</link> <dc:creator>stephen russell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:18:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3704#comment-166084</guid> <description>Ill take one, Great for: Shooting sharks ( IE Jaws) IF boat stable &amp; shark in range. US Mex Border Next Rambo movie 007 use? SWAT use. USFS use. Secret Service use. Now add armor piercing rounds. Bye bye Target. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ill take one, Great for:<br /> Shooting sharks ( IE Jaws) IF boat stable &amp; shark in range.<br /> US Mex Border<br /> Next Rambo movie<br /> 007 use?<br /> SWAT use.<br /> USFS use.<br /> Secret Service use.<br /> Now add armor piercing rounds.<br /> Bye bye Target.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eric Daniel</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/08/29/return-of-the-elephant-gun/#comment-166083</link> <dc:creator>Eric Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:39:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3704#comment-166083</guid> <description>Some additional thoughts</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some additional thoughts</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jpsIII</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/08/29/return-of-the-elephant-gun/#comment-166082</link> <dc:creator>jpsIII</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:50:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3704#comment-166082</guid> <description>A good friend and I wisely invested $125 in this fine instrument in 1965 or so; we should have wisely invested in more APT (hardened steel projectile with copper driving band) ammo at $1 rd., but they didn&#039;t pay grad students much back then. Registered properly in 1968, the Lahti has not fired a shot in anger or in pleasure for many years and appears quite happy being a mere, much admired, object of art. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good friend and I wisely invested $125 in this fine instrument in 1965 or so; we should have wisely invested in more APT (hardened steel projectile with copper driving band) ammo at $1 rd., but they didn’t pay grad students much back then. Registered properly in 1968, the Lahti has not fired a shot in anger or in pleasure for many years and appears quite happy being a mere, much admired, object of art.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jpsIII</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/08/29/return-of-the-elephant-gun/#comment-166081</link> <dc:creator>jpsIII</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:49:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3704#comment-166081</guid> <description>A good friend and I wisely invested $125 in this fine instrument in 1965 or so; we should have wisely invested in more APT (hardened steel projectile with copper driving band) ammo at $1 rd., but they didn&#039;t pay grad students much back then. Registered properly in 1968, the Lahti has not fired a shot in anger or in pleasure for many years and appears quite happy being a mere, much admired, object of art. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good friend and I wisely invested $125 in this fine instrument in 1965 or so; we should have wisely invested in more APT (hardened steel projectile with copper driving band) ammo at $1 rd., but they didn’t pay grad students much back then. Registered properly in 1968, the Lahti has not fired a shot in anger or in pleasure for many years and appears quite happy being a mere, much admired, object of art.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bob Hawkins</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/08/29/return-of-the-elephant-gun/#comment-65428</link> <dc:creator>Bob Hawkins</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:52:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3704#comment-65428</guid> <description>At what point does it become simpler to mount a zip gun on a small UAV? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At what point does it become simpler to mount a zip gun on a small UAV?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bill Nelson</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/08/29/return-of-the-elephant-gun/#comment-166079</link> <dc:creator>Bill Nelson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:00:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3704#comment-166079</guid> <description>I had recently seen a Sniper Rifle that was recently developed that surpases most sniper rifles to date. The rifle is the XM109 Anti-Material Payload Rifle by Barrett Firearms MFG and Unertl. The XM109 is a modification of the M107 .50 cal Sniper Rifle and fires 25MM AP of the same type as the XM307, as shown on this Global Security website http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m109-ampr.htm. I don&#039;t know which is more impressive, that this can fire 25mm or that it weighs only 33 lbs. I don&#039;t know if this is fielded yet, it may be too much of an overkill for most combat seen today since most enemy combatants aren&#039;t using light armor vehicles. It maybe useful if it can fire airburst rounds. It was mentioned is this website that nonlethal rubber projectiles could be used for riot and crowd control but I can&#039;t even imagine what it would take to reduce the force of a 25mm round to just hurt a person and not cut him/her in half. Unless Nerf can make that bullet. Or make an airburst round filled with small paint balls for a small crowd. But eben that would be a challenge and maybe an overkill for this weapon. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had recently seen a Sniper Rifle that was recently developed that surpases most sniper rifles to date. The rifle is the XM109 Anti-Material Payload Rifle by Barrett Firearms MFG and Unertl. The XM109 is a modification of the M107 .50 cal Sniper Rifle and fires 25MM AP of the same type as the XM307, as shown on this Global Security website <a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m109-ampr.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m109-ampr.htm</a>.<br /> I don’t know which is more impressive, that this can fire 25mm or that it weighs only 33 lbs. I don’t know if this is fielded yet, it may be too much of an overkill for most combat seen today since most enemy combatants aren’t using light armor vehicles. It maybe useful if it can fire airburst rounds. It was mentioned is this website that nonlethal rubber projectiles could be used for riot and crowd control but I can’t even imagine what it would take to reduce the force of a 25mm round to just hurt a person and not cut him/her in half. Unless Nerf can make that bullet. Or make an airburst round filled with small paint balls for a small crowd. But eben that would be a challenge and maybe an overkill for this weapon.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SteveD</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/08/29/return-of-the-elephant-gun/#comment-65425</link> <dc:creator>SteveD</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:02:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3704#comment-65425</guid> <description>Patton Museum at Ft Knox has a 20mm Russian Gun on Display. SFD </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patton Museum at Ft Knox has a 20mm Russian Gun on Display.<br /> SFD</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bob R.</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/08/29/return-of-the-elephant-gun/#comment-166078</link> <dc:creator>Bob R.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:49:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3704#comment-166078</guid> <description>Several years ago I saw one of this fired at the Spring Class III shoot at the Albany Rifle &amp; Pistol Club, Albany, Oregon. (Oregon is a GREAT state for class III ownership).. The Albany Spring Shoot is always a big event. I highly recommend it. Anyway, it was great to see this item fired. As I remember, it had a hand crank to retract the bolt. Contrary to popular belief, getting/buying a &quot;papered&quot; legal machinegun or destructive devise is not that difficult. Legal machineguns are the best investment item anyone can purchase. They have appreciated tremendously in the last 20 years. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several years ago I saw one of this fired at the Spring Class III shoot at the Albany Rifle &amp; Pistol Club, Albany, Oregon. (Oregon is a GREAT state for class III ownership).. The Albany Spring Shoot is always a big event. I highly recommend it. Anyway, it was great to see this item fired. As I remember, it had a hand crank to retract the bolt. Contrary to popular belief, getting/buying a “papered” legal machinegun or destructive devise is not that difficult. Legal machineguns are the best investment item anyone can purchase. They have appreciated tremendously in the last 20 years.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bob Slaney</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/08/29/return-of-the-elephant-gun/#comment-65423</link> <dc:creator>Bob Slaney</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:17:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3704#comment-65423</guid> <description>The Boys bolt operated rifle was used in the early part of WWII by the Brits. Fell out of use quickly as it would not disable any Kraut tank then.  Understand the Marine Raiders had a few issued to them. Story is they were used on the early raid on Maken( ) in the Pacific. It was a .55 cal round. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Boys bolt operated rifle was used in the<br /> early part of WWII by the Brits. Fell out of<br /> use quickly as it would not disable any Kraut<br /> tank then.  Understand the Marine Raiders had<br /> a few issued to them. Story is they were used<br /> on the early raid on Maken( ) in the Pacific.<br /> It was a .55 cal round.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Byron Skinner</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/08/29/return-of-the-elephant-gun/#comment-166077</link> <dc:creator>Byron Skinner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:50:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3704#comment-166077</guid> <description>Good Morning Folks, I know most of you are way to young to remember this but about 50 years ago anybody could buy one of these in firing condition mail order in the United States. They were sold as the best way to rid yourself of jackrabbits. I remember one of the guys in the neighborhood bought one and the kids sometimes were allowed to play Army with it. It was heavy. The sale of this weapon was a reqular stable in the pulp mens magazines of the era. The literatry masterpieces usuall had a slick cover and the inside pages were newsprint. They had names like &quot;True Men&#039;s Adventure&quot;, &quot;Men of Action&quot;, &quot;Men&#039;s Digest&quot; etc. often many often had a scanty clad (for the 50&#039;s, today it would be called teenage street and school wear) centerfold and the gerne usually sold for $.25. The bread and butter stories were WWII adventure, often having something to do with Nazis. A lot of POW escape stories if I remember. They were great. ALLONS, Byron Skinner </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Morning Folks,<br /> I know most of you are way to young to remember this but about 50 years ago anybody could buy one of these in firing condition mail order in the United States. They were sold as the best way to rid yourself of jackrabbits.<br /> I remember one of the guys in the neighborhood bought one and the kids sometimes were allowed to play Army with it. It was heavy.<br /> The sale of this weapon was a reqular stable in the pulp mens magazines of the era. The literatry masterpieces usuall had a slick cover and the inside pages were newsprint. They had names like “True Men’s Adventure”, “Men of Action”, “Men’s Digest” etc. often many often had a scanty clad (for the 50’s, today it would be called teenage street and school wear) centerfold and the gerne usually sold for $.25. The bread and butter stories were WWII adventure, often having something to do with Nazis. A lot of POW escape stories if I remember. They were great.<br /> ALLONS,<br /> Byron Skinner</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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