The Air Force may have adopted a doctrine on irregular warfare — combating insurgents and guerrillas while trying to win the hearts and minds of a local population — but it’s not about to abandon the advantages of airpower and sophisticated weaponry in the name of “fighting fair.”
Maj. Gen. Allen Peck, commander of the Air Force Doctrine Development and Education Center, made that pretty clear today at the Air & Space Conference sponsored by the Air Force Association in Washington, D.C.
Peck — noting that the Air Force’s irregular warfare doctrine stipulates that military actions must come second to influencing the population you’re trying to win over — heard that an earlier speaker said that just using airpower, even on a legitimate target, gives the enemy a propaganda opportunity.
The argument made by the earlier speaker is that enemy troops will claim the Air Force attacks them from the air but will not come face to face to fight them.
It was obviously not a question Peck usually gets. Or, perhaps, one hed ever heard.
“We should eschew capabilities that the enemy doesn’t have and just drive up and put a bayonet in his chest because that’s the only capability they have?” Peck asked. “We’re using weapons from the air, and that’s cheating? And we’re doing it at night and we have precision weapons and they don’t? I don’t even know how to respond to that.”
The fact is, Peck said, “I don’t want a fair fight.”
The Air Force drew up an irregular warfare doctrine that was approved by Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley on Aug. 24. A key part of the doctrine is that while combating and defeating the enemy, you don’t things to turn the civilian population against you.
Legitimacy and influence are critical, according to the doctrine, and “the battle of arms” must work in harmony with “the battle for influence,” but not become more important.
Still, its warfare. And somebody has to decide when a particular action is necessary — even if it may be viewed negatively by the population.
If the target is a mosque, for example, “chances are something like that, the approval level is going to be pretty high,” Peck said, with the person making that call likely being the one who will have to publicly justify it later.
– Bryant Jordan
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“A fair fight” is what the looser complains about not getting.
Regards & all
Thomas L. Nielsen
Denmark
Thats bullshit…We're fighting this war to exterminate people. We're not fighting fair in any way
“Fight on the ground, like men!” lol yeah right.
i have to admit that was one of the lamest questions i’ve ever heard of…
M
Well then, insurgents who use IEDs can’t be criticized for “fighting unfairly” either.
txzen:
While I think your post is well meaning, it is clearly uninformed. Examples:
1. We do not use ‘huge bombs’ unless the target requires it. It’s the Goldilocks principle: we like to use bombs that are ‘just right’.
2. In the end, ‘Shock and Awe’ never happened because of a last minute change in strategy at the kickoff.
Yes, this is all an a ll a very dumb thing for insurgents to say. “Fight fair on the ground.” They complain about our air power which keeps our soldiers from dying in an unnecessary way. They use IEDs which sometimes kill themselves and their populace then its our fault. Really, me arguing about this would only lead me into thousands of other subjects, such as ones a fifteen year old teenager shouldn’t know.
im all for airpower i was over there last year and i think that it does save the lives of our troups on the ground
but at the same time we destroy the millions of homes of innocent people and we leave them in the slums of poverty
Well if our us military fought on the ground only eventuality some dummy would say it was un fail because they were beter trained and meaner right, look at all other wars. Our nation is being sold and stolen from us, stop and look. no war is fare someone has to die better them over there than in our streets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All is fair in love and war, right?
Sure, after many wars, much research, technological development costing millions and many lives, throw it all away and resort to bayonets because the other guy doesn’t have it?
What planet is that guy from?
What! fight fair? Is this guy serious, the very means of the insurgents tactics (gurilla warfare) are unfair to the ‘T’. The moment war becomes fair; it isn’t war at all, but a game. Pretty soon theres gonna be ref’s handing out penalties for un-soldier like conduct.
did the covenant fight fair against earth? didnt think so.
We choose not to destroy anything but if we do have to destroy something we will ues the most effective weapon that make the most destruction either that fair or not. The lives of our soldier are always more valuable than the lives of our enemy.
War is never a fair fight- especially now that
america has the most sophisticated weapons.
Many, many civilians are killed as there exists
no weapon that differientiates who to kill enemy
or not.The putting of heads togeather should be
about how not to use war as a tool but on how to
negotiate and understand the enemy and being able
to change things through this means. However as
long as there is a superpower, concentration on
what weapons to use to reslove a dispute with a
country is the first preferrence. That is why
america always turns to war.
The question is not between fair and unfair it is between wining and changing US military culture.
What Maj. Gen. Allen Peck made clear was that at the end of the day and after much hand waving and self-justification the USAF would rather lose a war then change it’s culture.
Hello! Was it fair for a group of terrorists to commandeer 4 civilian airliners and intentionally crash them with the sole purpose of killing thousands more unarmed civilians? What is fair? Here’s your sign – MORON!
In response to “Rudy”, human nature does not change, dispite what some may believe. Negotiations are successful when both sides get something that they want. Unfortuneately, when the stated goal of one side is to destroy the other side, often the only effective method of negotiation is one that threatens the existance of the antagonist. Hence, both sides get what they want, peace. Go look up “Instuments of Power” (Diplomacy, Information, Military, Economic, Finacial, Intelligence, Technology)to better understand how the world works. We can’t wish these threats away by ignoring human nature. Cheers.
how would Master Chief handle this?
First of all, it really bothers me to see so many spelling and grammar errors in many of the posts, but that is for another time. It comes down to this, if our enemy had our capabilities, they would use them. Actually, they likely would not show the restraint we use in limiting what weapons are used on a given target. Their goal would simply be inflict the greatest number of casualties as possible and if that means nuclear, so be it. We could have wiped Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention any other country, off the map several times over by now and it is our compassion that keeps us from doing so. We do not want to go to war but we will do what is necessary to protect not only ourselves but those that cannot protect themselves. That is just one of the many reasons we are the greatest nation in the history of mankind.
War has never been a fair fight. the objective is
to gain the upper hand and control over the enemy. Even if we did fight fair, The enemy would
have to resort to gurilla taticts to win. They
could never with stand a fair fight against the
most well trained, equipted and feared military
in the world. Sorry you $%^& holes, If ya didn’t
start something there wouldn’t be anything. Best
you pray to Alla, you be see’n him soon!
I am a recently retired Veteran. I returned from Iraq in Jan. o6. I say to hell with fighting fair. We are at war, we are soldiers trained to do a job. Take the politics out of this and let the military do their job, complete the mission and come home.
I agreed with Darol, the enemy would use anything they can to win a war, I mean this people use their own life to win this war, if we use high tech weapons? this question shouldn’t even be ask!! This people don’t value life why should we care? Everybody hates US, thats becouse they can touch this country, and if they do, they know they’ll pay for it. In war their is nothing in between WIN and LOOSE, we must Win.
Because one thing for sure is that the US don’t like the idea of Loosing. This people kill w/out thinking, Don’t ask what weapons should we use?!!
Life ain’t Fair, Neither are we.
Though I bet if you give them a few jets they’d crash them into our troops instead of use them properly.
When someone utters the words, “I want a fair fight”, or “you didn’t fight fair,” the only words that come to mind is “Grow the hell up.”
A fair fight What the hell is a fair fight For it to be fair you would have to let our troops take off their gloves. We’re the ones that try and fight with rules. The insurgents don’t have any.I don’t see the U.S. cutting the heads of our prisoners.
You need to remember we are at war. And one of our soldiers lives mean more than all those mother @#$$%&* put together.
That was a bull@@#$ question…
A fair fight What the hell is a fair fight For it to be fair you would have to let our troops take off their gloves. We’re the ones that try and fight with rules. The insurgents don’t have any.I don’t see the U.S. cutting the heads of our prisoners.
You need to remember we are at war. And one of our soldiers lives mean more than all those mother @#$$%&* put together.
That was a bull@@#$ question…
PS.. I think we’re using to much restraint on wiping those Islamic Nuts off the planet.. I say, get rid of the politics’s so we can win this damn war quickly.
When killing people for the defense of one’s Country come’s into play. The mean’s used to accomplish this is essiential, what ever the mean’s is! Fighting a enemy that has no problem blowing up innocent people, in public, as well as them selve’s, at any given time. Dose not earn the right to be treated any way but visiously. These people have attached my USA and as far as I am concerned, they get what they deserve. Thank You my “MILITARY”
Fight Fair, what a FUBAR statement. I just retired from the military, and have visited the sandbox 10 times from DS 1 through OIF/OEF. This is simple, you want to fight me or my troops with your hands, I will get a baseball bat, you bring a gun, I will get a tank, you shot a us from a building, I will destroy the building.
It is not that I want to use excessive force, but I will ensure that you will not threaten me or my troops again. The use of AC and pression munitions, is not fair, so what, the use of kids to kill themselves and others is not either.Life is not fair, deal with it, and press-on.
Politicians need to keep out of the warfighting, and do what they do best, start them. Let the military do what they do best, and finish them.
to me this war is not a war its more on the lines of like the mafias of 1920-1930 and some of the gangs and drug cartels now a daYS MORE OF A HIT AND RUN KINDA OF TATICS THE LEADRES OVER THERE SHOULD CUT THE CUFFS OFF OF THE HANDS OF OUR SOLIDERS AND LET THEM DO WHAT THEY ARE TRAINED TO DO….. KILL
This is nuts. Nobody should complain that we aren’t fighting fair, especially considering the enemy. The enemy uses literally every single tactic that they can think of, with absolutely no scruples, to hurt us as much as they can. They use suicide bombers and civilian attacks, I see no way in which they can undermine us in the way that it is warned that they may above. Silly, really.
As well, it mentions that people might complain that the Air Force may not stand and fight against the enemy? Absurd as well, for isn’t the job of the Air Force to maintain air superiority by eliminating any airplanes, and to take out targets with strategic bombing? The Air Force was not ever designed as a ground force so should never be expected to be one.
How stupid is ANYONE to think that war is FAIR?
THE ENEMY ATTACKED.
WE TOOK IT FROM THERE.
This is easy: Send two airplanes over there one with bombs and one with grass seed, any questions?
Combat Jim/Alias: Scorpian King, over & out!
RE: How would Matter Chief handle this?
He would attempt to reason with them, and when he found out they were beyond reason:
He would nuke’em till they glow, then shoot’em in the dark.
BT
War is never fair.
It is something that must be done, and must be done well. Just get over there, get it done, and get back with as few men missing as possible. God gave us the brains to invent bombs for a reason, use them for crying outloud!!!!!!!
Yes it may take the few innocent that are over there, but we can’t help that now can we? I didn’t think so. So quit worrying about what we can’t fix, and worry about what we can fix.
“Who the hell cares! We’re America baby! Land of the free, home of the brave! We’ll kick your @$$ and who gives a $h!T!”
-Tina Raye
The politicians need to leave the war and go back to Washington. I’m getting tired of their bullshit. And the “Geneva Convention”. It’s a load of crap. AFTER GOING TO THE SANDBOX TWICE, I KNOW ENOUGH TO SAY THAT THESE GUYS AREN’T FAIR AND NEITHER SHOULD WE BE. thank you.
PO3 *******
Naval Special Warfare Unit
Seal Team 6
The fact of the matter is,That the american soldiers fight under geniva code.In other words we have rules and they don’t.Further more they have killed more civilians then the us by a long shot.Yes there are a few soldiers that have done horrible things.Not the first one compares to sawing the heads off of a living person.The enemy is ruthless,and the majority of the so called civilians that are killed,Are killed in the prosses of aiding the enamy in attacking the us soldiers.They allow the insurgents to use them as shields.The US soldiers for the most part use exstrem disaplin in holding back fire when this happens.Example”You can’t puch someone in front of a car and then blame the driver for running them over”
The MARINES have a VERY simple and succinct policy:
KILL’EM ALL AND LET GOD SORT ‘EM OUT!!!!!
Who tha Hell cares if their feelings or bodies get hurt? They don’t wear uniforms so we know who is shooting at us, we do (wear uniforms). I used to say, “they use women and children to do their fighting for them, and we don’t.” We don’t use children, YET! Unless one wants to consider that most of the Americans fighting in Bush’s illegal war, weren’t even born yet.I fought along their grandfathers mostly!
Warfighting by Americans today is f…ed up. One must almost have to get permission to shoulder one’s weapon. Historically, we have the MOST sophisticated weaponry ever devised. It shoots farther, more accurately, with greater output than ever but, what use is it if one has to ask permission to “engage the enemy” from some A..hole civilian in Washington who has probably never been in the military or in combat.
If that’s the way war has to be conducted now, let the Foggy Bottom/Pentagon illegitimate birthed civilians go fight the wars. They think “war” is something done with toy plastic soldiers in the backyard or on the school playground!
REAL WAR is nasty, dirty, unpleasant, frightening, and real people get hurt/dead.
When war starts, the Texas Air National Guard ought to have to activate every manjack and be sent to the “combat zone-front lines”. Then TANG ought to be decommissioned until the “cessation of hostilities”.
The way every war since WWII is fought has become increasingly more insane.
KILL ‘EM ALL AND LET GOD SORT ‘EM OUT!! Then court martial the Congress and DoD/DoS civilians for not employing diplomacy before getting our young men and women involved in a B.S. war we can’t win with their hands tied behind their back, blind-folded, and deaf from the cacophony of orders from A..holes who have never been there, done that!
Can we not forget that the Air Force, like the Army and Marines and Navy, are nothing but means to a destructive end? The weapons we provide them mean nothing when the missions we send them on are based on absurd strategies, ignorant policies and deplete their reserve power so they can no longer serve as deterrence to others. For example, the Air Force cannot replace the boots in Iraq because its view of the ground is fuzzy at best and the more Iraqis we kill from the air, the more Iraqis we create ready to die as shahids, killing Americans with IEDs strapped to their bodies. So the USAF has– again, as it had as the first US armed services branch to do early in the Cold War– chosen to reasert its role as a counterintelligence force. For that it needs intelligence (as in IQ) that is better than the enemy’s and humint that spots who is whom. Intel and enemy deception in service of population security is key and, it seems to me, only the USAF has people adequately educated to do both. If they manage to do as good– though unsung then– a job in the Middle East as they did in Vietnam, we may well see our “boots” coming home soon. Still, the issue is: WHY ARE WE IN IRAQ? IS IT OIL? OR ARE OUR TROOPS ONLY A FORCE BUSH PUTS AT THE SERVICE OF THE SAUDIS? why are we in afghanistan? IS IT HEROINE? Answer these questions at the White House and Capitol and the forces will better do their job knowing what is to be done.
P.S. from the “Devildog”
If anyone questions my comment in re “court martialing” civilians in DoD/DoS…”, forget it!
During “the Late Unpleasantness” or as Damnyankees refer to it as the, uh, civil war, more than a few civilians were court martialed on the grounds of “they were in a combat zone and the Damnyankees were at war”.
One more point: Bush has declared the whole world, including the U.S., a war zone, so don’t try to get technical and slick, slippery and slimey like a brig-house or barracks lawyer. God knows there are more than enough of those in Congress!! There is even one of those from Idaho!
tha …devildog
I will tell you why we are in iraq.Because Those jerks Crashed planes in to are soil,and if you want to live in denial and belive that theres a buch of conspiercy going on then you need to open your eyes.The enemy has let it be known.convert to islam or die.All you paseys that want to make excuses to end the war cause you cant handle fight for your country need to just crawl under rock and hide.Quit watching the corrupt amd political driven media and face the facts.These people hated us and what we stand for,Long before we ever whent over there.If we don’t take care of theme there the we are going to end up fighting them in are own back yards.
My thoughts are aligned with those of Patton, hero of The Bulge. If you want a picnic then pack some bologna sandwiches. Sure wish all of the not so brights would move in with the enemy and live with them. Don’t need ‘em here.
Boom
Major General Smedley D. Butler, U.S.M.C., was the ONLY Marine commissioned officer or in any other American military service to be awarded the Medal of Honor TWICE! Here
Txzen,
I couldn’t help notice your arguments used news from 2003 or 2004. The war in Iraq has changed a good deal since then. The fact that you use reports from CNN also reveals a lot about you.
You are so ready to demean our efforts to liberate an oppressed country and defend ourselves from these murderous fanatics that I wonder where you were born. And after all your supposedly well thought out arguments, you ignored the comment of a Marine Sniper who did Not fire on a target because he wasn’t sure if he was an enemy combatant even though the man was obviously hiding something under his coat.
Recon fire is Not indiscriminate firing into a village or town. It is always aimed at specific targets that are known or suspected to be harboring the enemy. If fire is returned, the target is taken down. That’s how you fight a war.!
No, you don’t give the other guy a chance. You are there to win, not lose. Gen Patton said it so well many years ago, when he was talking about the enemy. “Let that other poor bastard die for his country.”
Be glad you aren’t trying to defend against our actions in WWII. You’d go nuts. Read up on the history of how we defeated Germany by massive bombing raids. Hamburg comes readily to mind.
We didn’t just bomb it into rubble, we firebombed the city and burned it to ashes. And we stopped Hitler in his tracks. In other words, we didn’t fight fair. We won.
And please don’t bother to say we should just sit down and talk with these fanatics. Their sole purpose in life is to destroy OUR way of life and
ALLOW us to accept Allah and a world wide Caliphate. If we do not accept, their Holy Quran says we are to be Killed. Kinda hard to deal with that in a rational, diplomatic manner. The way you stop this nonsense is bring these people out of the seventh century and show them how to live in the Modern world. And to do that, you have to remove the Cancer that is holding them in a radical form of Religious bondage.
As a Vietnam Vet, I have seen the results of “Cut and Run” politics. You don’t know what a blood bath is until you read the history of South East Asia after the war was given away to the enemy.
But, enough of this. I wish you well in your life.
I will close with this thought. If we lose this struggle, YOU WILL either start praying to Allah or be one the uncounted dead. Good luck!
s/MSGT USMC (Ret)
who are they to talk about fair. WHAT ABOUT 9-11?
THAT WAS NOT A MILITARY ACTION, IT WAS NOT A HOLY BATTLE , IT SURE AS HELL AINT A VICTORY. THAT WAS JUST SENSELESS MURDER.They try to call this a holy war it isnt. It never says in the Koran to kill innocent people, I know people who have read . All these terrorists are criminals. If any of them try to hurt my family or my friends i will pull out my glock and waste him. Im sorry i know im ranting. thats just the way i think about
it. im pretty sure most 16 yearolds dont think like this
other 16 year olds are patriots but not immature enough to say I’ll waste him with my glock. I’m 17 going into the Navy to be a SEAL after college. As previously stated 9-11 wasn’t fair and since when are we supposed to level the playing field? Weapons were made and developed to kill and destroy and we will use any and all necessary to get the job done.
HOOYAH!!
well war wasn’t sepposed to be fair..and why should we have to use less powerful wepons because they aren’t advanced enough, anyways i rather shoot someone in the head then have a fair fight…and i’m joining the army as a pilot asap :D
With the media being so focused on the threat of terrorism we tend to forget that Saddam also had weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). True we didn’t find them but we know they exist. In case you forgot, he used them on his own people killing tens of thousands. And even if he didn’t have any direct responsibility for 9-11, He did support the people involved and the actions they were taking toward innocent American people on our own soil. He also could have prevented this whole war if he would have just conceided to inspections by the UN. Even though he wasn’t a current threat, he WAS threatening. Given the oppurtunity to spill American blood, he would have taken it. Regardless, we are there and while we are there we are going to fight in a manner that will protect our troops as much as possible. As far as fighting fair, just look at it this way; If you pick a fight with someone bigger than you you can’t get upset when they hit harder. That would be just plain stupidity.
My hat is off to ALL our fighting men and women for what they do. Kick some ASS for me too while you’re there and come home safe.
There are times when the “pike” or a K-Bar may be the the weapon of choice or last resort. But, I am sure not at 40,000 feet. The good general needs to be on the ground kicking doors and clearing buildings before he says more.
There are times when the “pike” or a K-Bar may be the the weapon of choice or last resort. But, I am sure not at 40,000 feet. The good general needs to be on the ground kicking doors and clearing buildings before he says more.
There are times when the “pike” or a K-Bar may be the the weapon of choice or last resort. But, I am sure not at 40,000 feet. The good general needs to be on the ground kicking doors and clearing buildings before he says more.
As a Former Marine, there is no such thing in war as a fair fight! The Palestinians & the Islamic radicals have no qualms about using women & children as shields, the majority are cowards & have no morals or scruples about killing All of us Infedels! Shoot first…Investigate later, only common sense! Mike. SEMPER FIDELIS!!!!!
When we catch Bin Laden, let’s put him in the ring with the Rock. THAT would be a FAIR fight! And one I’d pay to see.
My only comment is God Bless the Men and Women that put themselves in harms way and go ahead and drop the Bombs shoot the enemy do what ever gets the job done so you can come home. Be unfair if it will get you home sooner.
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Why don’t we let the earlier speaker go into Iraq with a Rifle and a Bayonet. Let him/her take a radio to call in an air strike. Any takers on which one’s used first? Most of the arm chair generals out there have never been where the bullets are flying, so it’s easy for them to shoot their mouths off. Are you sure the earlier speaker wasn’t Comrad Fonda? That’s about her speed.
It no longer metters why we are there. It instad matters that now we need to WIN and then leave. The US has never lost a war althogh there have been times we didnt win either. So my question to the liberals is where is your sense of Americanism? We arent like the rest of this world we didnt start this fight with the terrorists but we will sure as hell win and finish it.
Weapons are made to be deadlier, more presice, and better. During the world wars the germans didn’t care how the russians were equiped when they killed them , we didn’t care about how the native americans were eqiped when we killed them, and no real army that wants to win will play “fair”. Weapons are made better so the enemy dies faster and more so your family and friends don’t; and its looks cooler when a bomb goes off.
I am always tempted toward a semi-eloquent rant, but in this case I can simply agree with everything Rodosbc has said. I think I might have met him on the Cua Viet. War is not a game. You can pretend to have rules, but if your opponent has none, you are not going to win by crippling yourself with yours. No matter how civilized it may feel, you just cannot bring a tennis racquet to a gunfight and expect to prevail.
Who cares about fair. They attacked us so we go in there and Buttf@#$ them to hell. If thay can’t take it when the S!@# hits the fan then don’t throw the first punch. If they don’t like getting bombed back to the F@#$ING stone age thats to bad. Life is a B!@#H.
War, war is a drug. There is no way of stopping globliztion, and a one government. The UN, the power station with the top five country’s controlling its
War, war is a drug. There is no way of stopping globliztion, and a one government. The UN, the power station with the top five country’s controlling its
ok know every stfu and listen for a min #1 iraq did not swing first the afangs did with Bin laden infact we went in saying they had wom and yet the UN DID NOT FIND THE WOM so dont be saying they got what they deserved ok
#2 if we would not have invaded the iraqi’s we would need neither bombs not Bayonets
THINK ABOUT THAT
I personally think we should bomb them back to the stone age and turn Iran into a sheet of glass while we’re at it.
its not wether we fight fair or not. there is no such thing! you win by what u have and what u and it can do! fairness does not exist in this type of thing
Fair fights simply don’t exist. fair wars simply do not either. The simplest truth to war is “He who has the biggest gun wins.” meaning simply that technology has in almost any war, decided who wins it. From the time of bronze and iron weapons of ancient wars,Plate body armor, the Briton’s longbow, gunpowder and re loadable firearms, to the machine gun and fighter planes, nuclear weapons, long range missiles, and endless variations of the last four. Sure, morale, numbers, supplies, fortify able positions, tactics, troop training and brute manpower are cards in the deck as well. But technology is the ace in the hole. All to complete one objective, to win.
therein lies the problem. The goal of this war is to ‘liberate’ a country and allow it suitable time to come to strength to protect itself. (As were all told but I’m not going to get into that on this post.) that means we simply cant bomb the place till it resembles a bathroom mirror. That means we have to hold in the thoughts of the people that we are indeed liberators and not conquerors. Conquerors care not, (or very little,) of things such as civilian casualties. Liberators, on the other hand, have to. they have to hold in the mind of the citizenry that we are the “good” guys.
anyway i went off on a tangent. The fact of the matter is war isn’t fair, to pretend that it is on any level is to truly be ignorant on a level unfit of any human being. To say that we are too afraid to face you in a ground fight as we bomb you over and over from the air is just showing your frustration that you cant do anything about it other then keep your heads down.
Well nany nany boo boo. We have bombs, and they have rocks. It is not our fault they haven’t made any sort of technological advancements in centuries because they are too busy killing people in the name of their god. Let’s keep bombing them until all the retards are gone.
Nick WTF are you talking about? Do you know who saddam hussein was? Do you know the kind of life that people in Iraq were brought up in? Um…by the way, do you know why you aren’t using gay british grammar right now?
In reference to Mr. Juan, I must say that his response was not only immature, but politically incorrect. Just because they are narrow-minded doeesn’t mean they’re retards. Also, they are advancing in technology, just a little slower than the superpowers.
To the topic though. There is no such thing in the history of mankind and war as fair. Really, when you think about it the first war/ fight was because some tribe or country wanted something materialistic or had an authoritative complex and subdued whoever to get it. War and the urge to fight is a cruel, selfish carnality that seems ingrained in some (formerly in myself too). I’m just seventeen and I realize that. These middle east could possibly trace their lineage to Ishmael, a wild war-like man. They may not have the sophistication in weaponry, but they have a determination that has stopped most races from conquering them but each other. They will also use anything and everything to make us look bad. We just need to be careful with where and when we use weapons on them
Yo, wussup peoples? Uh, i ain’t the smartest person around, but you gotta be a complete idiot to think that you gonna get a fair war. Why don’t we all just go pick a couple daisies for each other now? No wonder people say the air force are sissies. What the devil you mean fair war? Okay, let me put it this way. You drop a bomb on someone right? Now drop one on yourself cuz you gotta make it fair. Dont you agree? Sounds like someone needs to snap outa lala land.
Hey, Ris here. Mister what’s'face doesn’t want a fair war. Define fair war. The guy is an idiot. Since when was war fair? I’m gonna fight you because you got somethin i want. Yeah, real fair. Does he think it’s fair we’re fighting the whole iraqi population cuz of a couple of terrorists? I dont. People need ta wake up and smell the roses. Today, nothing is fair. Does anyone think it’s fair for those of us who have to put up with gay people? By the way, if any of you are gay, too bad. I aint takin back what i said. If you’re gender confused, you got problems.
Ever loose track of what you where thinking when you walk into a Home Depot or record store(ex). ? I think that something similar happens to reporters when they finally get the “big gig”. There minds go blank & they will say/write anything that keeps there ad-executives happy.
To: The grunts on the ground & in the “Air”,
Disregard the Washington rhetoric, they are only trying to pacify our country’s nancy’s so you guys can concentrate on keeping each other alive. I lost a friend on 9-11. One of the funniest bastards you’ve ever met. Get Some , But don’t stick your necks out to do it,huh? It’s a country run by Dick-weeds & might remain so for awhile. Live & let the heathens die.–over,out.
my name is mud. i want to lick your earlobes…please.
sincerely,john allcott
JC, go back to elementary school and learn to spell and punctuate. Ok, with that out there now, I can concentrate on the subject at hand. There is no such thing as fair. Nothing has ever been fair, nor will anything ever be fair. Go ahead and let that dream go. As to the Chair Force chosing bombs, I guess that’s why they are the Chair Force. They are lazy. FIX BAYONETS!! OOHRAH!!
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Its cowardly of us to send planes to do our dirty work. We don't have the enough dignity to look at our enemy in the face and attack. just the way they us. We're practically the bullies in this war.