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Home » Drones » AF Brass Bristle at Drone Decision

AF Brass Bristle at Drone Decision

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The Pentagon’s num­ber two offi­cial tried to throw cold water on this cat fight, but it seems that the fur is still flying.

On Sept. 13, Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England for­warded a mem­o­ran­dum to the ser­vice chiefs and top Pentagon offi­cials reject­ing a rec­om­men­da­tion that the Air Force be the cen­tral author­ity for high and medium-​​altitude unmanned aer­ial vehicles.

Air Force brass fig­ured since they do most of the fly­ing these days, the atmos­phere — and most every­thing in it — should be their domain.

But over the last sev­eral years the Army has expanded its use of UAVs — par­tic­u­larly medium alti­tude ones — and they were dead-​​set against let­ting their sis­ter ser­vice tear con­trol of those assets out of their hands.

What England did was to shift over­sight respon­si­bil­ity to the Pentagon, con­ven­ing a task force that will exam­ine UAV issues and map out a coher­ent strat­egy for all the ser­vices to develop drone needs, mis­sions and sys­tems, so resources aren’t wasted and there’s bet­ter coordination.

But that doesn’t sit well with some top Air Force com­man­ders who see this as more of the same.

“A com­mit­tee has often been described as a cul-​​de-​​sac down which good ideas are lured and then qui­etly stran­gled,” said Gen. Ronald Keys, com­man­der of Air Combat Command, dur­ing a panel dis­cus­sion with top Air Force gen­er­als in Washington.

“My thought is let’s put some­body in charge of this, let’s hold him account­able, and let’s see if he can’t sort this out,” he said.

The Air Force’s top gen­eral was more diplo­matic in his crit­i­cism, argu­ing that England’s deci­sion is still new and a lot could come of the task force devel­op­ing the UAV roadmap.

“There has to be a bet­ter way to do this,” said Air Force chief, Gen. Michael “Buzz” Moseley. “I’m not unhappy with the steps that [England] has made in these first steps. There are more steps to go.”

Moseley pointed to the need for an over­all con­cept of oper­a­tions, stan­dard­iza­tion in how to com­mu­ni­cate and guide UAVs, a coher­ent way to man­age all the drones fly­ing around the bat­tle­field and what will be needed to pro­tect drones from an increas­ing air defense threat.

“This is a recog­ni­tion of the envi­ron­ment that we have iden­ti­fied as Airmen because this bat­tle­space is some­thing we are very famil­iar with,” Moseley added.

Drones have become an increas­ingly impor­tant part of mil­i­tary oper­a­tions over the last decade. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have high­lighted the need for pin­point sur­veil­lance of enemy activ­ity, given the rugged ter­rain and inner-​​city war­rens insur­gents covet.

The explo­sion of unmanned sys­tems has led to the recent debate over con­trol of the drone fleet, a mat­ter of par­tic­u­lar worry to the Air Force which is con­cerned that the grow­ing swarms of UAVs could endan­ger their manned and unmanned planes.

On the other hand, Army offi­cials are reluc­tant to cede con­trol of their drones for fear they won’t be dis­trib­uted over­head where they’re needed most by com­man­ders in combat.

“Now we’re in a sit­u­a­tion where the Army and the Air Force are essen­tially com­pet­ing for pro­duc­tion of UAVs. And that’s not good,” Keys said.

Nevertheless, the Joint Requirements Oversight Council — a Pentagon panel that advises civil­ian offi­cials on the over­all needs of the ser­vices — rec­om­mended this sum­mer that the Air Force assume the role of “exec­u­tive agent” for UAVs.

Then England stepped in.

“There’s more work to be done; more demon­strat­ing com­pe­tency to be done; bet­ter work on defin­ing require­ments; bet­ter work on defin­ing capac­ity. That’s ahead of us,” Moseley said.

It is unclear how this debate will even­tu­ally shake out. With the sep­a­rate reports that need to be issued, the coor­di­na­tion of pro­cure­ment and the devel­op­ment of an over­all UAV archi­tec­ture for all the ser­vices, there will cer­tainly be more inter-​​service jock­ey­ing as the plans take shape.

“I’m not sure we don’t know where every con­voy is … and whether I’ve got [sur­veil­lance] assets in the right place to see what needs to be seen before they drive into an ambush,” Keys said. “That’s what an exec­u­tive agent works through to pro­vide the capa­bil­ity to con­nect all these things.”

– Christian

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  1. slntax says:
    September 27, 2007 at 10:54 am

    seems like more and more the air force is being side­lined dur­ing the war on ter­ror. and the fighter jock men­tal­ity keeps the air force fully per­form­ing its mis­sions like cas. if this keeps up just like this move the army and navy will sim­ply do the mis­sions on it on.

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  2. txzen says:
    September 27, 2007 at 11:43 am

    I do think I read that most air mis­sion are now being done by the navy and army in Iraq. They will find some­thing for them to do.

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  3. Foreign.Boy says:
    September 27, 2007 at 12:15 pm

    how about dis­band­ing the Air Force and ‘attach’ the air force to army & naval Divisions?
    The only other solu­tion I see is a liai­son Officer between the Air Force and the army with these oper­a­tions. Even then that wouldn’t fill me with confidence.

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  4. DanInKansas says:
    September 27, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    Count me among those who don’t under­stand why a sep­a­rate air force is a neces­sity. Why not just go back to the Army Air Corps days and put its assets under a uni­fied com­mand that can sup­port troops on the ground?

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  5. ohwilleke says:
    September 27, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    The DOD, rather than just tack­ling UAV issues, really ought to reopen the Key West Agreement.
    It may have made sense at the time. History has shown, how­ever, that the line drawn at Key West were a mis­take.
    The divi­sion has left CAS and logis­tics air­craft under-​​represented in the pro­cure­ment process, has resulted in mis­matches between logis­tics air­craft capa­bil­i­ties, and the sys­tems they need to trans­port, has caused exces­sive reliance on heli­copters and artillery in sit­u­a­tions where fixed wing air­craft would be supe­rior on the oper­a­tional mer­its, and cre­ates a com­mand struc­ture that doesn’t nat­u­rally inte­grate well into com­bined air-​​sea-​​land oper­a­tions (yes, coor­di­na­tion can be and is jury-​​rigged, but coor­di­na­tion should be the norm at the divi­sion or bet­ter yet brigade level, not a devi­a­tion from rou­tine pro­ce­dures).
    There are also Navy-​​Army ten­sions (the Navy has like­wise under­in­vested in logis­tics and fire sup­port for ground forces), but those seem to be less stark and progress has been made in recent times on those fronts with ini­tia­tives like the USS Swift, the LCS and the DDG-​​1000 all of which have been more sen­si­tive to Army needs.
    And, while less dra­matic, Air Force v. Navy turf con­sid­er­a­tions have prob­a­bly resulted in an under-​​investment in non-​​carrier based fixed wing air­craft for anti-​​surface, anti-​​submarine and cruise mis­sile launch missions.

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  6. Andy says:
    September 27, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    There are his­tor­i­cal rea­sons for not allow­ing ground com­man­ders oper­a­tional con­trol of air­craft. In WWII in North Africa, for instance, some Commanders refused to allow “their” air­craft to assist units more heav­ily engaged than theirs. In short, air­craft were not prop­erly and effi­ciently uti­lized.
    Today we have doc­tri­nal divi­sions of respon­si­bil­ity. In a joint/​combined envi­ron­ment (which is the case in vir­tu­ally every major oper­a­tion), divi­sions of con­trol and respon­si­bil­ity are divided into “com­po­nents.” So, under the over­all Joint or Combined Commander there will be Commanders of each joint-​​force “com­po­nent.” These com­po­nents are: Land, Air, Maritime and Special Operations. Each Commander in each of these three areas has con­trol over all assets — no mat­ter the ser­vice — in their respec­tive area. So the Joint Force Land Component Commander (JFLCC) will main­tain OPCON of all land forces be they Army, Marines, etc. Same with the other com­po­nents. So unless basic US/​NATO doc­trine is changed, divid­ing the Air Force among the other ser­vices will no do much.
    Where things would change is in pro­cure­ment and exper­tise. If the Air Force was bro­ken up and divided between the Army and Navy, would those ser­vices be able and will­ing to main­tain the exper­tise in aer­ial war­fare devel­oped over the years, and plan and fund the required sys­tem intel­li­gently? Who knows.

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  7. Solomon says:
    September 27, 2007 at 2:43 pm

    This lat­est dust-​​up and the com­ments made by senior Air Force lead­ers points to seri­ous cul­tural prob­lems in this ser­vice. Too many times the Air Force attempts to “go it alone”…England really needs to give these peo­ple some “wall to wall counseling”!

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  8. Camp says:
    September 27, 2007 at 3:38 pm

    They could just piss off every­body, and cre­ate a Drone ver­sion of the USSOCOM. :)

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  9. Byron Skinner says:
    September 27, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    Good Afternoon Folks,
    Lets face it the Air Force is run­ning out of things to do. The exist­ing Minuteman III’s will be the last ICBM’s, bombers of all kinds in the active Air Force is down to less then 100, the car­pet bomb­ing in Afghanistan two weeks ago to get bin Laden by B-52’s killed a few goats and moved some rocks accord­ing to the 82nd. Airborne Division who did the post bomb­ing sweep and the BDA on the strike. With the 100th F-22’s now deliv­ered the active F-​​15 com­mu­nity is on it’s way out the door, as soon as an F-​​15 Squdn. returns from the war zones it’s rede­ployed into the National Guard. I can go on but I think the pic­ture is clear to all.
    In the next bud­get year (like next week) the Air Force is going to have to start RIFing 30-​​50K per­sonal. None pro­motable O3’s, O4,O5 and O6’s are not sleep­ing to easy these nights. With an increase in demand from the air­lines to replace pilots tur­ing 60 there will be lit­tle incen­tive on the part of the active Air Force to keep these offi­cers on active duty. When the F-​​35 come on line the same fate will hap­pen to the F-​​16 dri­vers.
    The idea of turn­ing UCAV’s over to the Air Force will be strongly resisted by the Army. In the early 60’s when the Air Force too over all fixed wing tact air it was a desaster, the Army in not of a mind set to repete this error.
    What’s left for the Air Force, Space maybe, work­ing with the National Intelligence Diractive or CIA?
    With an Admiral who is a vet­eran of Pentagon Budget wars becom­ming CJCS next week pay back will become the order of the day. Remember the JFK can be heard on many Admirals breath.
    In two weeks the Navy will issue a paper defin­ing it’s mis­sion in the GWOT, the first since the 1980’s. They already are dicussing pro­tect­ing sea lanes, long range air­borne mar­itime recon­nai­sance with coun­tries that share a mutural inter­est and with coun­tries that have no direct inter­est but chose to be allies with the United States. This should make some depress­ing read­ing for the Air Force.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner

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  10. 22lr says:
    September 28, 2007 at 7:10 pm

    With out bash­ing the Army I would say this. The Airforce still has a very vital role in natonal secu­rity. And it is vastly under size for what it should be. Personaly I think the Airforce’s role in the world is very vital, they just need more of just about every­thing. However some peo­ple see that the war right now is mostly ground, but in a big nation show down (like Iran) the air­force will be the only thing that could pre­vent mass mur­der of Americans in Iraq. Dont for­get that even though we are not at a war with an enemy who even has aiplanes, that pos­si­bil­ity is very very real, and an Army chop­per aint going to cut it. Im sad to see the air­force tak­ing a beat­ing over the last num­ber of years. But remem­ber Shock and Awe wasnt done by the Navy, or the Army (at least the major­ity) B-​​52s did a lot of work and bashed a lot of heads for us.

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  11. Solomon says:
    September 29, 2007 at 8:36 pm

    22lr
    No one is bash­ing the Air Force, the Air Force is bash­ing itself! To think that in a time of tight bud­gets that it would assert the need for more F-​​22s, a new Tanker, a new CSAR heli­copter, a re-​​engined C-​​5, and con­trol of all drones in oper­a­tion and devel­op­ment, while simul­ta­ne­ously bash­ing the work that the US Army and Marine Corps are doing is sim­ply crim­i­nal. If you’ve kept up with the state­ments com­ing from the Flag Officers in the Air Force then you’ll real­ize that joint oper­a­tions are not con­sid­ered a pri­or­ity. This lat­est power grab for con­trol of UAV’s is just the lat­est insult to the intel­li­gence of the other ser­vices. The Air Force has a prob­lem and Mosley sees it every time he looks in the mir­ror.
    Shock and Awe??? That was a pipe dream from the 1920’s that states that air power alone can win wars. War with Iran???? I hope to GOD that it doesn’t hap­pen but if it does rest assured that except for token appear­ances from B-2’s, the legacy force of Air Force air­craft will carry the bur­den (along with about 3 car­ri­ers that’ll be parked in the Gulf). So no ser­vice flag wav­ing for the boys in blue. Sometimes its bet­ter just to shut up (speak­ing about Air Force Flag Officers), do your job and let the American pub­lic by way of its rep­re­sen­ta­tives decide what pro­grams are essen­tial for the nations secu­rity. These power grabs and pub­lic state­ments about all its doing to win the GWOT all by them­selves should stop.

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  12. david says:
    October 3, 2007 at 8:16 pm

    I know let’s change their name to the Army Air Corps and.…… :)

    Reply
  13. tiperny says:
    October 4, 2007 at 12:35 am

    Everyone out there needs to remem­ber that we are all on the same team and that each team mem­ber has their own respon­si­bil­ity. Organization is the key to suc­cess and if every­one gets their hands into every aspect, we will have a mess. Being a pilot’s wife, I can tell you that many of the pilots would love to see the Army have to deal with the UAV’s (they would avoid get­ting pulled out of their air­craft to man them-​​not exactly a pilot’s dream!). We have friends and fam­ily mem­bers in all branches and the only debates we have are playful-​​we all appre­ci­ate each other. The ground troops do a lot of the work, how­ever, the air troops are there to back them up in a cri­sis. Every sin­gle job is impor­tant so please cease the degrad­ing and debate professionally.

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  14. Chris says:
    October 4, 2007 at 12:59 pm

    Ladies and Gentlemen:
    I will start with a brief explo­ration of the oper­a­tional deploy­ment of UAVs (Unmanned Aerial Vehicles). Currently there are ten types of UAVs avail­able and each of the ser­vices is oper­at­ing at least two types. The oper­a­tional char­ac­ter­is­tics of the var­i­ous types range widely. For exam­ple, onboard sen­sors may be electro-​​optical, infrared, or live video. Control may be either remotely piloted or autonomous. Weighs range from under five pounds to 25,600 pounds and oper­a­tional alti­tudes range from hun­dreds of feet to 67,000 feet. Some UAVs are stealth while oth­ers are vul­ner­a­ble to enemy detec­tion. At least two of the ten UAVs types can carry muni­tions and some carry jam­mers.
    The use of UAVs over the last three years has grown at approx­i­mately 100% per year.
    How did the DOD arrive at this point with­out a joint doc­trine for UAVs? In the February 2006 issue of the Air Force mag­a­zine, Adam J. Hebert said;

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  15. JC says:
    October 8, 2007 at 2:35 am

    That

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