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Home » Polmar's Perspective » Good News — Bad News on UAVs (Depending on Who You Are)

Good News — Bad News on UAVs (Depending on Who You Are)

The good news is that the Air Forces plan to obtain con­trol of all U.S. mil­i­tary medium– and high-​​altitude Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) has been rejected by the Department of Defense. The bad news is that the Air Forces plan has been rejected.
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Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England announced his UAV deci­sion in a recent memo to senior civil­ian and mil­i­tary offi­cials in the Department of Defense. According to the memo, the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition is to cre­ate a task force to coor­di­nate UAV issues and develop ways to “enhance oper­a­tions, enable inter­de­pen­den­cies, and stream­line acqui­si­tion of [UAVs].” The Joint Requirements Oversight Council (JROC) will be respon­si­ble for coor­di­nat­ing the devel­op­ment of train­ing and tac­tics, added England.

Many defense offi­cials and mil­i­tary offi­cers — Air Force and from the other ser­vices — believe that the solu­tion will not bring the volatile UAV sit­u­a­tion under control.

The JROC was estab­lished to sup­port the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in his statu­tory respon­si­bil­ity to advise the Secretary of Defense on mil­i­tary require­ments, pro­grams, and bud­gets. Headed by the chair­man, the JROCs mem­ber­ship con­sists of four-​​star offi­cers from the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps.

Air Force Chief of Staff General T. Michael Moseley had pro­posed on 5 March 2007 that the Air Force take over the man­age­ment of all Pentagon UAV pro­grams. It was met with strong oppo­si­tion from Army and Navy offi­cials, who feared that Air Force con­trol would sub­ju­gate their UAV require­ments for direct sup­port and other roles — as well as con­trol of funds — to Air Force roles, mis­sions, and schedules.

Thus, in lieu of form­ing an exec­u­tive agency within the Air Force, Mr. England — a for­mer Secretary of the Navy — has directed that an inter­a­gency task force will address how to pro­mote inter­op­er­abil­ity and effi­cient oper­a­tions among the ser­vices unmanned aer­ial vehi­cles. (There are more than 100 dif­fer­ent types of UAVs now in oper­a­tion or development.)

Mr. Englands memo did direct that the Air Force’s Predator and Army’s Sky Warrior UAV pro­grams be merged by October 2008, to include a com­mon data link, in order to achieve com­mon devel­op­ment, pro­cure­ment, sus­tain­ment and train­ing activ­i­ties.” He did direct which ser­vice should lead this effort.

The deci­sion espe­cially relieves the Navy of con­cerns that the Air Force could sub­sume over­sight of its high-​​dollar UAV con­tracts, espe­cially the Unmanned Combat Air System (UCAV) demon­stra­tor, which was recently awarded to Northrop Grumman, and a soon-​​to-​​be-​​decided Broad Area Maritime Surveillance (BMAS) con­tract. Some Navy offi­cials believe those pro­grams as well as other UAV efforts to be crit­i­cal to future naval oper­a­tions, both in blue water and coastal/​littoral areas.

– Norman Polmar

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  1. slntnax says:
    October 4, 2007 at 3:28 pm

    again and again we see how clue­less and petty the air force is when try­ing to fight the war on ter­ror. more and more they are mar­gin­al­ized by their fool­ish acts. they sim­ply care about get­ting more money for their pet pro­grams with­out think­ing about fight that is going on right now. what really mat­ters the con­cept of “one team one fight.” instead they spend all their cash on lav­ish bar­racks then ask for more and more money. they have the most friendly fire inci­dents of any ser­vice. their lack pro­fes­sion­al­ism is stark through­out their ser­vice. the chair force gen­er­als truly have their heads in the sky.

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  2. 22lr says:
    October 4, 2007 at 5:21 pm

    Im going to say this. The United States Airforce is the first line of defense we have against a large treat, like China. The war on ter­ror is a army war, a war with China would be a air­force and navy way, if a war like that ever got to the army we would all be screwed. Friendly fire is a lot dif­fer­ent when your fly­ing at 20000 feet and you see fire going both ways. The air­force is sim­ply try­ing to prove to law­mak­ers that they still have a pur­pose because poli­ti­tions cant see past tomor­row let alone 10 years ahead.

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  3. Scott Drumm says:
    October 4, 2007 at 7:24 pm

    Since when did the USAF become our “first line of defense?” against any­thing? Perhaps if you’re respond­ing to an ICBM attack, but other than that the boys in blue are usu­ally way behind the front lines when the bal­loon goes up.
    Time has proven again and again that it’s the Navy that’s first on sta­tion and — with their Marine Corps part­ners — the first in harms way.
    While this is clearly just another power grab, you gotta give credit to the Air Force for their nego­ti­at­ing skills. How else could they have con­vinced Congress to buy a squadron of B-​​2 stealth bombers when each plane costs more than a Seawolf class sub­ma­rine and almost half as much as a Nimitz class carrier…

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  4. Tony says:
    October 4, 2007 at 8:35 pm

    (Darn it. I actu­ally meant to place this com­ment in a sec­tion like this. I don’t know how to delete my old com­ment on the Two-​​seat Raptor arti­cle.)
    Keep in mind I am a civil­ian mil­i­tary nut and I have plans to serve. This is just my opin­ion.
    Wouldn’t replac­ing an entire force of manned air­craft with unmanned air­craft be dan­ger­ous? Most UAV’s are reliant on a satil­lite con­nec­tion and China has already proven it can take out satil­lites. To make things worse, what if some­one (this is a ref­er­ence to China, Russia, and com­puter smart ter­ror­ists) learned to lit­er­ally jam a UAV com­puter or hack it with nerds and turn it on its allies. Even worse, they could turn it into a kamikaze bomb.
    Not only that, but in every bat­tle of every war the one deter­min­ing fac­tor has been the man, not the machine. A human mind can get cre­ative and adopt to nearly any sit­u­a­tion. In short, what I am try­ing to say is that the human mind’s flex­i­bil­ity is nearly lim­it­less while the mind of a UAV will for­ever be a box. I think manned fight­ers are still bet­ter than UAVs and should be fur­ther invested in. Nothing can replace the human mind since the human mind is inde­pen­tant of elec­tronic influ­ence.
    That’s just what I think.

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  5. 22lr says:
    October 4, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    Tony, right on. My thoughts to the letter.

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  6. Lugo says:
    October 5, 2007 at 9:03 am

    Since when did the USAF become our “first line of defense?” against any­thing? Perhaps if you’re respond­ing to an ICBM attack, but other than that the boys in blue are usu­ally way behind the front lines when the bal­loon goes up.
    You’ve heard of this thing called “air supe­ri­or­ity”? It’s a thing the Air Force pro­vides, and it is the essen­tial pre­req­ui­site for US mil­i­tary oper­a­tions, even though the Army and Navy take it for granted. It is the TRUE first line of defense, because when you have it, the enemy often doesn’t even dare to attack you at all, and if they do they get spanked before they even come in con­tact with Army and Navy types.
    Time has proven again and again that it’s the Navy that’s first on sta­tion and — with their Marine Corps part­ners — the first in harms way
    The Navy is first on sta­tion, but all it can do is pro­tect itself… with the help of land-​​based air­power, of course. The first in harms way. Hah. When was the last time the enemy harmed a Navy ship? Oh, that’s right, the USS Cole was harmed due to Navy incom­pe­tence, but oth­er­wise the Navy has been the safest Service to serve in since 1945.
    Tony, sorry, but your thoughts reflect pro­found igno­rance of UAVs.

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  7. C. Foskey says:
    October 5, 2007 at 9:05 am

    »Wouldn’t replac­ing an entire force of manned air­craft with unmanned air­craft be dan­ger­ous?
    Of course. I dont see any­one any­where sug­gest­ing we do such a thing. The use of UAVs for select mis­sions has huge advan­tages over human pilots, the same way using robots in fac­to­ries can have a huge advan­tage over human labor.
    But nobody is seri­ously advo­cat­ing elim­i­nat­ing all human pilots.

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  8. 22lr says:
    October 5, 2007 at 8:28 pm

    Can some­one tell me what a UAV can do bet­ter than a real pilot. You can never replace a human brain. Dont say that they can fly into a hos­tile area because that claim is bogus. UAVs have a role, but not as a fighter air­craft. Someone also please tell me how they will not be hacked.
    USAF is a deter­ance force, the Army would be wiped out in a met­ter of days by China. Ya we would kill 50–100 to 1 but num­bers play into there hand big time. However over in the sand­box Army and Marine Corps is were the fight­ing is going on, and were almost all the action takes place. But a sin­gle A-​​10 can do a whole lot more dam­age than 5 M-​​1 abrams. My point is, if we lose sight of our big ene­mys like China, and Iran, and keep down­crad­ing our air­force, it will come back to bite us in the rear end big time.
    All that said Every branch in teh mil­i­tary has a very vital role and each one depends on the other to be able to do its job. It is just that some peo­ple cant see past their nose and real­ize, if push comes to shove, every branch must be able to attack/​defend long enough for another branch to come in and deliver the final kill. Airplanes can hold off an armor divi­sion, but it would take the Army to kill it com­pletly. Same time in the Army attacked that divi­sion with out air­cover (which i dont think they would ever do) they would suf­fer many more casu­al­ties than nessisary.

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  9. moss says:
    October 5, 2007 at 9:45 pm

    Why does the author use quotes around con­trol, “who feared that Air Force “con­trol” would sub­ju­gate…” I don’t get the intended sar­casm, any­one care to explain?

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  10. Byron Skinner says:
    October 6, 2007 at 10:28 pm

    Good Evening Folks,
    The UAV has moved from being a toy to becom­ming a major ele­ment in U.S. air power. Right now it appears that the Navy is ahead of the Air Force in inter­grat­ing UAV’s into there force struc­ture.
    In Robert Kaplan’s recent book “Hog Pilots, Blue Wayer Grunts” he lays out the world wide base struc­ture under Bush/​Rumsfeld and this cuts deeply into the Air Forces abil­ity to for­ward base near a con­flict spot. According to Kaplan the trend is to base the U.S. mil­i­tary only on American con­troled soil. If this is the case espe­cially in the Pacific (PACOM) there will be a lot of water between the near­est U.S. base and any area of con­flict. Only the Carrier Battle Group will be able to project air power into a con­flict in a timely man­ner.
    “Hog Pilots, Blue Water Grunts” is not a great read, in fact Kaplan’s abil­ity to write a nar­ra­tive is more then just lack­ing but if you can ignore the bad writ­ing a lot on insight can bee seen in where the GWOT is going beyond Iraq.
    The Navy appears to have grasped this trend and is way ahead of the Air Force on the learn­ing curve as to how to inter­grate UAV’s into there modes of oper­at­ing. What is at stake of courese is the future of the car­rier and any addi­tional manned bombers. The Navy still feels the sting of los­ing two car­ri­ers since 2000 and wants them back. Meanwhile the Air Force is still all getty over their lat­est toy the F-​​22. The fact that Adm. Mullen an expe­ri­ence Pentagon Budget Warrior is now CJCS should be of con­cern to the other bkue ser­vice.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner

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  11. Roy Smith says:
    October 7, 2007 at 12:24 pm

    Didn’t the Air Force & Navy go through some­thing like this dur­ing the late 50’s/early 60’s con­cern­ing strate­gic bombers that car­ried nuclear weapons & didn’t the navy lose this bat­tle to the Air Force? This is just another case of how inter ser­vice rivalry inter­feres with the total force concept.Instead of work­ing together,both sides are fight­ing for con­trol of the UAVs & we all lose out.

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