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> <channel><title>Comments on: The USS Liberty and the McCain Presidential Bid</title> <atom:link href="http://defensetech.org/2007/10/10/the-uss-liberty-and-the-mccain-presidential-bid/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/10/10/the-uss-liberty-and-the-mccain-presidential-bid/</link> <description>The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:27:57 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: SR Singleton, USNSCC</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/10/10/the-uss-liberty-and-the-mccain-presidential-bid/comment-page-2/#comment-168477</link> <dc:creator>SR Singleton, USNSCC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:37:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2587#comment-168477</guid> <description>I didn&#039;t read all the comments, but it looks like all you guys who don&#039;t believe the story like this &quot;Jonah&quot; need to just listen to the guy that was actually there. To Mr. Joe Meadors, Sir, I am honored to be a part of Liberty (AGTR-5) Division and honor you and your crew&#039;s actions and valor during the incident.
Seaman Recruit Matt Singleton
Liberty (AGTR-5) Division
US Naval Sea Cadet Corps
http://libertyagtr5div.org/ </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn’t read all the comments, but it looks like all you guys who don’t believe the story like this “Jonah” need to just listen to the guy that was actually there. To Mr. Joe Meadors, Sir, I am honored to be a part of Liberty (AGTR-5) Division and honor you and your crew’s actions and valor during the incident.<br
/> Seaman Recruit Matt Singleton<br
/> Liberty (AGTR-5) Division<br
/> US Naval Sea Cadet Corps<br
/> <a
href="http://libertyagtr5div.org/" rel="nofollow">http://libertyagtr5div.org/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SR Singleton, USNSCC</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/10/10/the-uss-liberty-and-the-mccain-presidential-bid/comment-page-2/#comment-168476</link> <dc:creator>SR Singleton, USNSCC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:29:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2587#comment-168476</guid> <description>Guys, the whole damn thing was a coverup, I know. My USNSCC (US Naval Sea Cadets) unit is the Liberty (AGTR-5) unit. One of the officers in my unit is a survivor of the attack. He&#039;s told us that the whole thing was a coverup. Besides, it would be pretty damn hard NOT to see a huge American battle flag flying. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, the whole damn thing was a coverup, I know. My USNSCC (US Naval Sea Cadets) unit is the Liberty (AGTR-5) unit. One of the officers in my unit is a survivor of the attack. He’s told us that the whole thing was a coverup. Besides, it would be pretty damn hard NOT to see a huge American battle flag flying.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Airman Read</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/10/10/the-uss-liberty-and-the-mccain-presidential-bid/comment-page-2/#comment-168475</link> <dc:creator>Airman Read</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:50:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2587#comment-168475</guid> <description>I would think that if a report was filed in a court of law, along with a request, then the report could be progressed through simple filings offered by the court of law.  Legal Motions to expedite are available to anything filed within the frame of law - but, military law doesn&#039;t exactly follow the same rules as the civilian courts  - the UCMJ is treated as a separate entity altogether and is unique to the constitution with certain &quot;civic demands.&quot;
If that upsets Jonah - or anyone else from another country who is just a little too critical and curious of how we Americans run our military, then I would submit that &quot;it&quot; be all the more reason to further investigate ... in other words Jonah, reading your bull shit on this site has proven one thing to the general public...that you defeat your protectionist need with your attitude alone and you project your want for cover up too much, lending credence for the need for an open investigation altogether.
Why is it so hard to get entities to answer simple questions, withstanding national security points of interests?
Anyone who presupposes that the US government acts without honor, nor integrity ought to know better as well - just when you think you know why something may have been, more information comes to bear fruit on the subject putting it in new light...and most often times that information is Classified for good reason - it may connect or lay claim to a whole separate subject outside of relevance to the primary question.
Demonizing &quot;big brother&quot; is to assume that your brother is not acting in our best interest - especially regarding any foreign country&#039;s interest in the US and our society or way of life.
As for now - our open source intelligence is very strong indeed - but its unique relevance without all information is of no consequence other than fodder for pop culture (to feed the beast, so to speak).
In other words Jonah, don&#039;t for a minute think that the US doesn&#039;t have information already...after all everything has a price - money is only a tool, almost as effective as &quot;technology.&quot;
Why certain things are &quot;covert&quot; (or covered up) are of no concern to  everyday citizens and the &quot;need to know&quot; perquisite exists for good reason - that is unless an individual has something to hide which is not covered under the constitution which lay all rights and responsibilities out for every private citizen, as well as foreign.
Signed
Intelligence
&quot;the anti-jonah&quot;
ps - jonah, if the israeli&#039;s are responsible for 911 - as a type wake up call I suppose - would you blame them?  Is Bin Laden a Sharon cronie now?  Is he Jewish? Are you one of those who believes that is father was CIA?  Explain his taped confession and need for jihad.  Who benefited the most of all from the attacks - what country? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think that if a report was filed in a court of law, along with a request, then the report could be progressed through simple filings offered by the court of law.  Legal Motions to expedite are available to anything filed within the frame of law — but, military law doesn’t exactly follow the same rules as the civilian courts  — the UCMJ is treated as a separate entity altogether and is unique to the constitution with certain “civic demands.“<br
/> If that upsets Jonah — or anyone else from another country who is just a little too critical and curious of how we Americans run our military, then I would submit that “it” be all the more reason to further investigate … in other words Jonah, reading your bull shit on this site has proven one thing to the general public…that you defeat your protectionist need with your attitude alone and you project your want for cover up too much, lending credence for the need for an open investigation altogether.<br
/> Why is it so hard to get entities to answer simple questions, withstanding national security points of interests?<br
/> Anyone who presupposes that the US government acts without honor, nor integrity ought to know better as well — just when you think you know why something may have been, more information comes to bear fruit on the subject putting it in new light…and most often times that information is Classified for good reason — it may connect or lay claim to a whole separate subject outside of relevance to the primary question.<br
/> Demonizing “big brother” is to assume that your brother is not acting in our best interest — especially regarding any foreign country’s interest in the US and our society or way of life.<br
/> As for now — our open source intelligence is very strong indeed — but its unique relevance without all information is of no consequence other than fodder for pop culture (to feed the beast, so to speak).<br
/> In other words Jonah, don’t for a minute think that the US doesn’t have information already…after all everything has a price — money is only a tool, almost as effective as “technology.“<br
/> Why certain things are “covert” (or covered up) are of no concern to  everyday citizens and the “need to know” perquisite exists for good reason — that is unless an individual has something to hide which is not covered under the constitution which lay all rights and responsibilities out for every private citizen, as well as foreign.<br
/> Signed<br
/> Intelligence<br
/> “the anti-jonah“<br
/> ps — jonah, if the israeli’s are responsible for 911 — as a type wake up call I suppose — would you blame them?  Is Bin Laden a Sharon cronie now?  Is he Jewish? Are you one of those who believes that is father was CIA?  Explain his taped confession and need for jihad.  Who benefited the most of all from the attacks — what country?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shadow</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/10/10/the-uss-liberty-and-the-mccain-presidential-bid/comment-page-2/#comment-168474</link> <dc:creator>Shadow</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:07:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2587#comment-168474</guid> <description>Jonah is obviously a Troll, working overtime for his Zionist Thug Murdering Masters. USS Liberty Survivors have exposed him for the Coward and Troll he is. Jonah, go tell your Masters the Jig is up. You are doomed to fail in any and all assinine attempts at covering for such a vile bunch of Criminal murdering bastards. Warmest Regards you SOB! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonah is obviously a Troll, working overtime for his Zionist Thug Murdering Masters. USS Liberty Survivors have exposed him for the Coward and Troll he is. Jonah, go tell your Masters the Jig is up. You are doomed to fail in any and all assinine attempts at covering for such a vile bunch of Criminal murdering bastards. Warmest Regards you SOB!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stanford</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/10/10/the-uss-liberty-and-the-mccain-presidential-bid/comment-page-2/#comment-168473</link> <dc:creator>Stanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:43:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2587#comment-168473</guid> <description>Jonah: You are a chuckle head. Joe is way to kind. You need to take your israeli passport and go back to your home country. McCain has israel so far up his asss he&#039;s shittting bagels. He is a tool. Sadly Obama is worse....but I will not lower myself to vote for Mccain...I&#039;ll hit Barr and walk out with my integrity.
stanford </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonah: You are a chuckle head. Joe is way to kind. You need to take your israeli passport and go back to your home country. McCain has israel so far up his asss he’s shittting bagels. He is a tool. Sadly Obama is worse.…but I will not lower myself to vote for Mccain…I’ll hit Barr and walk out with my integrity.<br
/> stanford</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Allen D. Post</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/10/10/the-uss-liberty-and-the-mccain-presidential-bid/comment-page-2/#comment-168472</link> <dc:creator>Allen D. Post</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:16:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2587#comment-168472</guid> <description>End the occupation of Palestine, Iraq and Capital Hill.
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With McCain you will have more of the Mc same !! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>End the occupation of Palestine, Iraq and Capital Hill.<br
/> PLEASE ASSIST IN CIRCULATION OF THESE TWO BOOKS.<br
/> THANKS,<br
/> 1.<br
/> 2.<br
/> ——————————————————————————–<br
/> FINAL REPORT &amp; DECEPTION:  TWO BOOKS BY<br
/> RETIRED OFFICER RONALD L. WALDRON<br
/> These controversial new books written by a retired Police officer are fact-loaded tableaus exposing the inner-workings of our government in relation to foreign policy, nuclear armament, and political corruption.<br
/> We call for a literal reprisal of our government though a return to ” by the people” democracy.<br
/> Who, What, Where, When, Why &amp; Wake-up !!<br
/> Order &amp; Read :  FINAL-REPORT.ID# 49149.<br
/> &amp;<br
/> DECEPTION. ID# 53223<br
/> The easiest way to place an order is to go to the Author House Bookstore.  You can also call our Book Order Hotline,<br
/> at 888.280.7715.(Book ID# 49149 ) Also, orders can be accepted via email at <a
href="mailto:bkorders@authorhouse.com">bkorders@authorhouse.com</a>.<br
/> OR: Web. site<br
/> <a
href="http://www.authorhouse.com/bookstore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=49149" rel="nofollow">http://www.authorhouse.com/bookstore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=49149</a><br
/> <a
href="http://www.authorhouse.com/bookstore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=53223" rel="nofollow">http://www.authorhouse.com/bookstore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=53223</a><br
/> A second book:  Titled DECEPTION; ID # 53223 is now available through the same outlets.<br
/> Both books  also available at Barnes &amp; Noble, and Amazon.com.<br
/> The books are written in support of Obama,  and change.<br
/> A revolution is well on the way, the people will unite,how-ever will it be constructive or destructive?<br
/> That my fellow Americans is up to us, you and me.<br
/> DUE to the FISA bill, BUSH administration is now<br
/> reading all your E-mail.  How do you like it ?<br
/> With McCain you will have more of the Mc same !!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Herb Schaffler</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/10/10/the-uss-liberty-and-the-mccain-presidential-bid/comment-page-2/#comment-32438</link> <dc:creator>Herb Schaffler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:00:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2587#comment-32438</guid> <description>Can anybody tell me where I can get a photocopy that I can download of the transcript of the intercept where Israelis identified the ship as being an American ship? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anybody tell me where I can get a photocopy that I can download of the transcript of the intercept where Israelis identified the ship as being an American ship?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jack Edwards</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/10/10/the-uss-liberty-and-the-mccain-presidential-bid/comment-page-2/#comment-32437</link> <dc:creator>Jack Edwards</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:33:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2587#comment-32437</guid> <description>Reasons why the attack on the Liberty try the following
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/aug/08/israel </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reasons why the attack on the Liberty try the following<br
/> <a
href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/aug/08/israel" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/aug/08/israel</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joe</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/10/10/the-uss-liberty-and-the-mccain-presidential-bid/comment-page-2/#comment-168471</link> <dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:34:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2587#comment-168471</guid> <description>American citizens are easily duped by their government. U.S. history is cluttered with examples of government feeding false information to forward their own agenda. It&#039;s amazing how it happens over and over with citizen acceptance. Most Americans are sheep and will not question authority. Most of them do not want to be labeled &quot;unpatriotic&quot; or &quot;unamerican&quot; and go with the status quo. Even when it is against their own self interest. The attack on the USS Liberty by the state of Israel over 40 years ago is evidence that we were never allies. This relationship has been destructive to America and will continue as long as its citizens do not question its leadership. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American citizens are easily duped by their government. U.S. history is cluttered with examples of government feeding false information to forward their own agenda. It’s amazing how it happens over and over with citizen acceptance. Most Americans are sheep and will not question authority. Most of them do not want to be labeled “unpatriotic” or “unamerican” and go with the status quo. Even when it is against their own self interest. The attack on the USS Liberty by the state of Israel over 40 years ago is evidence that we were never allies. This relationship has been destructive to America and will continue as long as its citizens do not question its leadership.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Susannah</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/10/10/the-uss-liberty-and-the-mccain-presidential-bid/comment-page-2/#comment-168470</link> <dc:creator>Susannah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 19:36:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2587#comment-168470</guid> <description>I have been reading about the USS Liberty for years now. I feel so sad that our patriotic soldiers are being annoyed and harassed -- for trying to get the TRUTH out, trying to PROTECT AMERICANS from other possible attacks by our &quot;ally&quot;.  If the truth does not come out all over the media now, how can we prevent history from repeating itself? We can&#039;t.
I was surprised to read about the Israeli pilot at the scene who reported back to base that the vessel was American, and when he was commanded to continue the attack he chose not to, facing arrest on his return to base.
For the pilot&#039;s story to have come out some 25 years ago, corroborated by the fact that the whole radio exchange was overheard by the US Embassy in London as well as by other radio operators... it&#039;s just amazing that people still refuse to acknowledge this intentional slaughter of US military personnel.
My heart goes out to the victim&#039;s families who still have not seen justice done 40 years later... and to those survivors who have been brave in standing up for their country, even though our politicians will not stand by them. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading about the USS Liberty for years now. I feel so sad that our patriotic soldiers are being annoyed and harassed — for trying to get the TRUTH out, trying to PROTECT AMERICANS from other possible attacks by our “ally”.  If the truth does not come out all over the media now, how can we prevent history from repeating itself? We can’t.<br
/> I was surprised to read about the Israeli pilot at the scene who reported back to base that the vessel was American, and when he was commanded to continue the attack he chose not to, facing arrest on his return to base.<br
/> For the pilot’s story to have come out some 25 years ago, corroborated by the fact that the whole radio exchange was overheard by the US Embassy in London as well as by other radio operators… it’s just amazing that people still refuse to acknowledge this intentional slaughter of US military personnel.<br
/> My heart goes out to the victim’s families who still have not seen justice done 40 years later… and to those survivors who have been brave in standing up for their country, even though our politicians will not stand by them.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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