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Home » Ground Vehicles » A Primer in MRAP Variants

A Primer in MRAP Variants

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MRAP is an unusual pro­gram that involves rolling pur­chases of a wide range of vehi­cle types, all meet­ing the same basic mobil­ity and pro­tec­tion require­ments.

The require­ments do not spec­ify how a vehi­cle should meet them, so man­u­fac­tur­ers take dif­fer­ent approaches, with some embrac­ing a mono­coque style that com­bines the hull and chas­sis in a sin­gle piece, and oth­ers bolt­ing an armored hull to a sep­a­rate chas­sis, per­haps with a “belly plate” to pro­tect the drive train. All hull designs are V-​​shaped, though some are flat­ter than oth­ers to max­i­mize inte­rior space.

The man­u­fac­tur­ers give their vehi­cles model names like “Cougar” and “Alpha,” but the MRAP pro­gram office tends to refer to them only by cat­e­gory. The three cat­e­gories in the pro­gram each describe a dif­fer­ent weight class and size and are intended for dif­fer­ent mis­sions. The roughly 7,800 vehi­cles ordered as of August are split between the four main mil­i­tary ser­vices and Special Operations Command.

The fol­low­ing is a sum­mary of the cat­e­gories, vehi­cle types, key per­for­mance spec­i­fi­ca­tions, design strengths and weak­nesses, and mis­sion infor­ma­tion for the MRAP vehi­cles pro­cured by the Pentagon.

Category I: approx­i­mately 7–15 tons; at least 4 pas­sen­gers, plus 2 crew; urban trans­port.

Category II: approx­i­mately 15–25 tons; up to 8 pas­sen­gers, plus 2 crew; road escort, ambu­lance and bomb-​​disposal mis­sions.

Category III: approx­i­mately 25 tons; at least 4 pas­sen­gers, plus 2 crew; bomb dis­posal.

Category I

Cougar H 4 X 4: Force Protection Industries Inc. (Ladson, S.C.). Weight: 16 tons. Passengers: 4 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 785 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: $475,000. Features: Monocoque, flat­tened V-​​shaped hull extended to engine com­part­ment; 330-​​hp. engine; dual air con­di­tion­ers; rear door.

Reality check: Widely con­sid­ered the “gold stan­dard” of MRAP designs, the Cougar enjoyed con­sid­er­able sales suc­cess even before MRAP. Force Protection built a small num­ber of Tempest vehicles-​​basically early Cougars-​​for British Army engi­neers in 2002, fol­lowed by sev­eral hun­dred Cougars for the U.S. mil­i­tary between 2003 and 2006, mostly for engi­neer and bomb-​​disposal units. In April, Force Protection, cit­ing mil­i­tary sta­tis­tics, claimed that despite some 300 attacks tar­get­ing Cougars in Iraq, not one Marine died while rid­ing in one. Force Protection builds Cougars at its main fac­tory in Ladson as well as in a new facil­ity in North Carolina, and has signed co-​​production agree­ments with General Dynamics and BAE Systems (for Iraqi army Cougars). The vehicle’s major weak­ness is poor off-​​road mobil­ity, a con­se­quence of its rel­a­tively heavy weight result­ing from a high degree of pro­tec­tion. The design min­i­mizes the use of glass to improve sur­viv­abil­ity, at the cost of pas­sen­ger vis­i­bil­ity.

RG-​​33 4 X 4: BAE Systems North America (Rockville, Md.). Weight: 14 tons. Passengers: 4 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 201 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: approx­i­mately $300,000. Features: Monocoque, flat­tened V-​​shaped hull that stops short of engine com­part­ment; rear door.

Reality check: The RG-​​33 is a cousin of the RG-​​31, which itself is based on the South African Mamba design that incor­po­rates a German-​​designed Unimog chas­sis. The RG series of vehi­cles makes exten­sive use of armored glass to improve vis­i­bil­ity, with a slight penalty in sur­viv­abil­ity. Perhaps the design’s great­est weak­ness is its vul­ner­a­bil­ity to a “mobil­ity kill” that destroys the lightly armored engine and leaves the crew stranded. RG-​​33s are man­u­fac­tured on two lines in York, Pa., another in Texas and a fourth at a BAE-​​owned fac­tory in South Africa. BAE’s acqui­si­tion of Armor Holdings LLC this sum­mer sig­nif­i­cantly boosted the company’s abil­ity to “up-​​armor” its MRAP designs. BAE rep­re­sen­ta­tive Doug Coffey says that live-​​fire test­ing at Aberdeen, Md., proved the RG-​​33 to be the over­all most sur­viv­able MRAP vehi­cle. He added that stock­pil­ing ade­quate raw mate­ri­als, espe­cially armor-​​grade steel, was the biggest obsta­cle to ful­fill­ing orders. RG-​​33 has an exten­sive com­bat record. U.S. Army and Marine Corps units use the vehi­cle in Iraq and Afghanistan for bomb-​​disposal and route-​​clearance missions.


MaxxPro 4 X 4: International Military and Government LLC (Warrenville, Ill.). Weight: 16 tons. Passengers: 4 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 1,955 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: $548,000. Features: Commercial truck chas­sis with a bolt-​​on V-​​shaped armored hull; 330-​​hp. engine; rear door.

Reality check: Commercial truck-​​maker International was a sur­prise win­ner in the first round of MRAP pur­chases; MaxxPro scored more orders than any other type. Assistant General Manager Bob Walsh cred­its the company’s huge fac­tory capac­ity and sup­port base, as well as MaxxPro’s two-​​piece design. “It does a very good job of redi­rect­ing energy [from bomb blasts].” Repairability: “Being cab-​​on-​​chassis, you’re able to pull off this body and slide a new chas­sis in.” The suc­cess­ful German Dingo vehi­cle embraces a sim­i­lar design phi­los­o­phy, but there’s a rea­son most MRAP types fea­ture single-​​piece mono­coque hulls: On a bolt-​​on design, a pow­er­ful blast might sep­a­rate the hull from the chas­sis, result­ing in a mobil­ity kill that strands the crew. MaxxPro chas­sis are man­u­fac­tured in Garland, Tex.; hulls are made in West Point, Miss.

Caiman 4 X 4: Armor Holdings LLC (Jacksonville, Fla.). Weight: 14 tons. Passengers: 4 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 1,154 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: $443,000. Features: Family of medium tac­ti­cal vehi­cle (FMTV) chas­sis with a V-​​shaped armored hull; rear door.

Reality check: Armor Holdings has released few details about the Caiman design, stress­ing only that it is lighter than many MRAPs. Caiman has chas­sis com­po­nents com­mon to the FMTV util­ity truck, a fea­ture that should sim­plify main­te­nance and sup­port. The design report­edly boasts bet­ter off-​​road per­for­mance than the heav­ier Cougar. Work is per­formed in Sealy, Tex., and Fairfield, Ohio.

Alpha 4 X 4: Oshkosh Truck (Oshkosh, Wis.). Weight: 13 tons. Passengers: 6 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 100 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: $306,000. Features: Monocoque lay­out with V-​​shaped armored hull; rear door.

Reality check: Despite being one of the biggest builders of mil­i­tary util­ity trucks, Oshkosh designs have fared poorly in the MRAP com­pe­ti­tion. Alpha was intended to be a smaller, lighter MRAP in order to facil­i­tate rapid ship­ping and improve urban maneu­ver­abil­ity. But test­ing at Aberdeen, as well as lim­ited field test­ing with com­bat units, proved Alpha to be more vul­ner­a­ble than other designs-​​this despite spe­cial armor co-​​developed by Battelle and Protected Vehicles Inc. The Marine Corps informed Oshkosh that it would not order more than the ini­tial batch of 100.

RG-​​31 Mk 5 4 X 4: General Dynamics Land Systems Canada (London, Ont.). Weight: 9 tons. Passengers: 10 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 10 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: approx­i­mately $300,000. Features: Monocoque, flat­tened V-​​shaped hull that stops short of engine com­part­ment; rear door.

Reality check: The U.S. Army and Canadian forces used the rel­a­tively light­weight RG-​​31 in Iraq and Afghanistan, where it has proved pop­u­lar but some­what less sur­viv­able than the Cougar. Canadian RG-​​31s have been involved in sev­eral fatal bomb­ings and have suf­fered mechan­i­cal prob­lems. Mechanical faults also drove the British Army to retire a hand­ful of RG-​​31s it pur­chased in the 1990s. GDLS is part­nered with BAE in South Africa on RG-​​31 pro­duc­tion. The Army con­tin­ues to pur­chase the model for route clear­ance out­side of the MRAP pro­gram. RG-​​31s in Iraq have been fit­ted with cage armor to pro­tect against rocket-​​propelled grenades.

M1117 4 X 4: Textron (Providence, R.I.). Weight: 12 tons. Passengers: 8 + 3 crew. MRAP I orders: 4 for test­ing. Features: Flattened V-​​shaped hull; side door; 260-​​hp. engine. Cost: $690,000.

Reality check: Textron pitched this stretched vari­ant of its suc­cess­ful Armored Security Vehicle, more than 1,000 of which have been ordered by the U.S. Army for con­voy escort duty in Iraq. The M1117 is lighter and has a flat­ter hull bot­tom than the other con­tenders, and these lia­bil­i­ties appar­ently doomed the vehi­cle. The Marine Corps bought only four test exam­ples. The New Orleans fac­tory that makes ASVs was heav­ily dam­aged in Hurricane Katrina in 2005; there were doubts that Textron could increase pro­duc­tion to meet MRAP demand, even if the vehi­cle had proved sur­viv­able enough. The M1117 also is more expen­sive than other Category I MRAPs.

Category II

Cougar HE 6 X 6: Force Protection Industries Inc. (Ladson, S.C.). Weight: 24 tons. Passengers: 10 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 920 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: $644,000. Features: Monocoque, flat­tened V-​​shaped hull extended to engine com­part­ment; dual air con­di­tion­ers; rear door.

Reality check: The roomier six-​​wheeled Cougar vari­ant is prized by bomb squads for its abil­ity to carry an ordnance-​​disposal robot and con­trols with room to spare; many of the pre-​​MRAP 6 X 6 orders were placed by the Navy on behalf of the mil­i­tary bomb-​​disposal com­mu­nity. The British and Iraqi armies were first to embrace the 6 X 6 for other mis­sions. In 2006, Force Protection sold 400 Cougar HE vari­ants to the Iraqi army and 108 to the British Army. The British “Mastiffs,” as they are called, report­edly boast supe­rior pro­tec­tion against explo­sively formed pen­e­tra­tor bombs.

RG-​​33L 6 X 6: BAE Systems North America (Rockville, Md.). Weight: 22 tons. Passengers: 12 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 330 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: approx­i­mately $630,000. Features: Monocoque, flat­tened V-​​shaped hull that stops short of engine com­part­ment; rear door, exportable power; robotic claw arm.

Reality check: This stretched and widened RG-​​33 vari­ant is fit­ted for the same roles as the Cougar HE, with the addi­tion of a robotic arm like that on the larger Buffalo MRAP, used to probe sus­pected explo­sive devices. The RG-33’s lower height com­pared to the Buffalo will prob­a­bly make it an infe­rior arm plat­form.

RG-​​31E 6 X 6: General Dynamics Land Systems Canada (London, Ont.). Weight: approx­i­mately 20 tons. Passengers: at least 10 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 610 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: $559,000. Features: Monocoque, flat­tened V-​​shaped hull that stops short of engine com­part­ment; rear door.

Reality check: A stretched RG-​​31 vari­ant, the E model has yet to appear in pub­lic and the man­u­fac­turer has released only basic details, but it should be broadly sim­i­lar to the RG-​​33L.

MaxxPro XL 4 X 4: International Military and Government LLC (Warrenville, Ill.). Weight: 18 tons. Passengers: 10 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 16 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: $540,000. Features: Commercial truck chas­sis with a bolt-​​on V-​​shaped armored hull; rear door.

Reality check: A heav­ier, stretched MaxxPro. As with many Category II MRAPs, the MaxxPro XL uses the same engine as its smaller, lighter Category I coun­ter­part, mean­ing slightly degraded per­for­mance.

Golan 4 X 4: Protected Vehicles Inc. (North Charleston, S.C.). Weight: 15 tons. Passengers: 10 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 60 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: $623,000. Features: Monocoque, V-​​shaped armored hull; rear door.

Reality check: PVI was a sub­con­trac­tor to Oshkosh on that company’s failed Alpha MRAP; PVI’s own Golan has fared lit­tle bet­ter. There has been no indi­ca­tion that the Pentagon will order any beyond the ini­tial batch of 60. While await­ing orders, PVI has cut its work force in half, and is cur­rently fight­ing a law­suit relat­ing to issues about the depar­ture of PVI founder Garth Barrett from rival Force Protection Inc., where he was pres­i­dent. Force Protection claims Barrett stole a hard drive con­tain­ing con­fi­den­tial data. Barrett is coun­ter­su­ing. Executive rep­re­sen­ta­tive Drew Felty says the lack of inter­est in Golan is not due to sur­viv­abil­ity. “We have what we call a triad solu­tion: we’ve got pro­tec­tion against IEDs-​​including frag­men­ta­tion, EFP (explo­sively formed pen­e­tra­tor) and RPG, all in one vehi­cle.” The design fea­tures mod­u­lar armor blocks on the sides and cage armor over the win­dows. PVI has the advan­tage of being located near the Navy’s SPAWAR Systems Center, which inte­grates tur­rets and elec­tron­ics in MRAPs, and Charleston AFB, where many MRAPs embark for flights to Iraq.

Caiman 6 X 6: Armor Holdings LLC (Jacksonville, Fla.). Weight: 24 tons. Passengers: approx­i­mately 10 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 16 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: approx­i­mately $600,000. Features: FMTV chas­sis with a V-​​shaped armored hull; rear door.

Reality check: As with the Category I Caiman, Armor Holdings has released few details about this vehi­cle, only stress­ing its FMTV util­ity truck chas­sis.

Category III

Buffalo 6 X 6: Force Protection Industries Inc. (Ladson, S.C.). Weight: 25 tons. Passengers: 4 + 2 crew. MRAP I orders: 58 + sev­eral for test­ing. Cost: $856,000. Features: Monocoque, flat­tened V-​​shaped hull extended to engine com­part­ment; 400-​​hp. engine; rear door; robotic claw arm.

Reality check: The Buffalo is the only vehi­cle qual­i­fy­ing for MRAP Category III, owing to its unique fea­tures: greater size, weight and height, which make it cum­ber­some but extremely sur­viv­able, and an excel­lent plat­form for the robotic arm used to prod sus­pected bombs. Buffaloes in Iraq have been seen fit­ted with cage armor to pro­tect against RPGs. Buffalo is a direct descen­dant of the South African Casspir design that is in wide­spread mil­i­tary and civil use for mine-​​clearance.

– Aviation Week’s DTI

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  1. Roy Smith says:
    October 23, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    I noticed one vehi­cle omit­ted from this list which con­firmed to me that it wasn’t an MRAP & makes me ask again,what is an Armet “Ghurkha” LAV good for any­way? Maybe Sen. McCain should inves­ti­gate this MRAP fiasco with the zeal he seems to show with the Air Force Tanker & Combat Search & Rescue Helicopter programs.

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  2. Trent Telenko says:
    October 23, 2007 at 5:17 pm

    Christian,
    This:
    >Caiman 4 X 4: Armor Holdings LLC (Jacksonville,
    >Fla.). Weight: 14 tons. Passengers: 4 + 2 crew.
    >MRAP I orders: 1,154 + sev­eral for test­ing.
    >Cost: $443,000. Features: Family of medium
    >tac­ti­cal vehi­cle (FMTV) chas­sis with a V-​​shaped
    >armored hull; rear door.
    …is incor­rect infor­ma­tion.
    The US Military did not elect to pur­chase the 4 x 4 ver­sion of the Caiman for the Cat I mis­sion.
    Both the Cat I and Cat II Caimans are based on the 6 x 6 vehi­cle with the dif­fer­ence between the two ver­sions being the num­ber of seats ver­sus cargo room in back.

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  3. Patron Vectras says:
    October 23, 2007 at 6:45 pm

    I agree with the con­sen­sus so far:
    Why are they order­ing SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES?
    Interchangeable parts is what makes mod­ern war­fare the most mod­ern, how can they for­sake that? Think of all the train­ing for dri­vers and mechan­ics.
    Of course, even if they decide to hold a big con­test to get one answer to their prob­lems they still will end up with mul­ti­ple results.
    out there must be an answer.
    some­one please tell me: is the clas­si­fied armor too heavy for MRAPs?

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  4. Paul Grove says:
    October 23, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    The fun­ni­est thing about all of these mod­els from a South African view­point? All of the com­pa­nies men­tioned above have expat’s on their design teams that men­tion some­where in their cv a stint work­ing for Armscor. The first lot of Cougars used in Iraq were prob­a­bly cap­tured Iraqi Casspirs, that the same gen­tle­ment worked on! I some­times feel like I’m in that old Chevy Chase movie about the arms trade.
    But hey, as we say here in dark­est Africa — ‘local is lekker!’

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  5. G says:
    October 24, 2007 at 12:33 am

    Why not just put some reac­tive armor on the under­side of the vehi­cles? Wouldn’t that work better?

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  6. demophilus says:
    October 24, 2007 at 1:05 am

    @Patron, D. Alex:
    FWIW, there’s a side­bar at the DTI arti­cle that says DoD spec­i­fied com­mon engines, trans­mis­sions and axles. The Marine gen­eral in charge says they’re “just trucks”, and that we’ll be able to main­tain them as long as we have “parts and man­u­als”.
    Maybe. Maybe any NCO with some hard time at Pep Boys before he or she mus­tered in can keep MRAPS out of the motor pool and out­side the wire. But, I’m get­ting a faint whiff of mice and men, just the same.

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  7. Patron Vectras says:
    October 24, 2007 at 12:57 pm

    thanks, demophilus.
    I guess that’s why we have the ASVAB.

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  8. Hammer says:
    October 25, 2007 at 1:25 am

    I would take an MRAP over an M1 Abrams for a deep buried IED any day(one that det­o­nates under the vehi­cle). I don’t know how well they would fair against EFP’s or good RPG’s but they defi­nately will be an improve­ment over the humvees. I do have some con­cerns over how good they will be tac­ti­cally when used by units that have to do raids but I guess we’ll find out soon.

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  9. Roy Smith says:
    October 25, 2007 at 10:23 am

    The Merkava is an excel­lent MRAP because it has a 120mm gun & can also hold 6 infantry­men in addi­tion to its tank crew(which makes it bet­ter than the M2 Bradley,which has a far smaller gun).The Merkava,keeping its 120mm gun,can also be con­fig­ured to be a ambu­lance & carry lit­ters internally.Sure they CAN be blown up,but it takes a huge bomb placed in a lucky spot for a lucky shot.With the Trophy system,it can with­stand anti-​​tank rockets.Why can’t we have Merkavas? I’m sure it can be proven that it was built with American parts(Buy American First,right?).

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  10. Mutt says:
    October 25, 2007 at 5:59 pm

    With all due respect Roy, the Merkava is an out­stand­ing main bat­tle tank but we already have one of those. I’ll take an M1A2 over a Merkava any day of the week, but I won’t trade tanks for a high end tank crew. A top notch Merkava crew will out­per­form an M1A2 with an aver­age crew. They are both top qual­ity pieces of equip­ment and that’s where the train­ing is the REAL decid­ing fac­tor.
    All that said, we’re talk­ing MRAPs which are vehi­cles designed for VERY spe­cific mis­sions. MRAPs don’t replace M1’s, Bradleys, Strykers, or M113s. These are com­bat engi­neer­ing vehi­cles and EOD vehi­cles. They’re not designed to engage enemy com­bat vehi­cles, their mis­sion is to counter IEDs and to counter bat­tle­field obsta­cles.
    Our enemy’s weapon of choice is the IED so the MRAPs are the vehi­cle of choice in this par­tic­u­lar bat­tle­field. The MRAPs would have been total crap in 3 ID’s run to Bahgdad.
    Choose the right tool for the mission.

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  11. Roy Smith says:
    October 25, 2007 at 8:38 pm

    What the Merkava has that the M1 Abrams doesn’t is its engine in the front of the vehi­cle & a BACK DOOR like an APC. It can carry 6 infantry­men in addi­tion to its nor­mal tank crew​.It can also oper­ate as an ambulance(tankbulance).Infantry can­not even stand behind an M! because the engine is so hot,it will burn them to death.
    The Merkava can com­bine together the Gun of the M1 with the APC abil­i­ties of the Bradley.One Merkava as replace­ment for 2 vehicles(the M1 & the Bradley) gives you one true “Combined Arms” Battalion.If they could move the engine to the front of the M1 Tank & place a back door & space to carry 6 infantry­men or lit­ters for ambu­lance evacuation,then yes the M1 would be an even bet­ter tank.

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  12. Roy Smith says:
    October 26, 2007 at 12:48 pm

    Look at a map of Iran.When Alexander the Great fought against Persia,it was on the flat plains of IRAQ!!!! There is noth­ing flat in the nation of Iran​.It is ALL MOUNTAIN.Oh,it does have the very nasty Kavir Desert,where the Desert One res­cue mis­sion haad that hor­ri­ble col­li­sion between a C-​​130 & an H-​​53 helicopter,right in its cen­ter.
    Unless you can some­how fig­ure out how to put Amphibious Assault Ships on the Caspain Sea(a land locked Lake,however the largest lake on earth),Tehran is pro­tected by the nat­ural bound­aries of the moun­tains & the Kavir Desert.For all we know,besides being hot with very lit­tle or no moisture,the Kavir Desert is most likely like the boggy ter­rain of the falk­land Islands.You are talk­ing about M1 tanks & Bradleys,if they can get through the mountains,sinking in the quick­sand of the Kavir Desert,blinded by Haboob dust storms,& no water to cool down our how­itzers if we fire them(& if they don’t sink in the sand).Hello,no won­der Iran doesn’t have very many tanks,instead they have a but­t­load of hovercraft,I won­der why?
    My God,look at a map!!!! MOUNTAINS!!!! NASTY DESERT(that swal­lowed up “Desert 1″)!!!!!! BIG LAKE WITH NO ACCESS FOR BIG U.S. SHIPS!!!!!!! Please,please,surely not every­body here was edu­cated in a pub­lic U.S. gov­ern­ment school.

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  13. Roy Smith says:
    October 26, 2007 at 6:55 pm

    I just looked at a map.We can Invade Iran from the Caspian Sea.Oh wait,how do we get our ships to the Caspian Sea? Hmmmm,can we fly them on planes? Do we have any planes that can carry an Aircraft Carrier? What ever shall we do? Those rivers don’t look large or deep enough to send our destroy­ers through to get to the Caspian Sea. We ain’t talk­ing the Great Lakes here,the Caspian Sea IS LANDLOCKED!!!! I guess we’ll just have to depend on our F-​​22s & UAVs on this one.

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  14. Rhyno327/lrsd says:
    October 30, 2007 at 11:18 am

    Who said we are gonna run Abrams tanks and heavy divi­sions into Iran? If there is to be a con­fronta­tion, and it will hap­pen, it will be car­ried out by the A.F. and Naval air. If they want a ground war, let them come across one the bor­der­ing coun­tries we have troops in. I bet before an armored for­ma­tion gets close to the Iraqi bor­der, it will be lit up by air. Let them come to us. We will destroy all thier nuclear and mil­i­tary sites-​​by air.

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  15. Pete says:
    February 14, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    You wouldn’t think it was a waste of money if you were the one whose got to drive around amid IEDs in the meantime…

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  16. bayrak says:
    July 20, 2008 at 11:51 am

    thank you so much
    bayrak
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  17. Tim COnnor says:
    July 22, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    What does th RG in RG 31 stand for?

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  18. oyun says:
    July 26, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Thanks so much.

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    August 11, 2008 at 8:35 pm

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  20. goonzu money says:
    August 11, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    So I decided to closed my own heart, I played lonely, I gave up to find, put aside feel­ing. I upgrade, take account and earn goonzu money a per­son. I live a lit­tle good; I think I have been really put aside.

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