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Home » Training and Sims » Rebuilding the Iraqi Air Force

Rebuilding the Iraqi Air Force

Yesterday I had the oppor­tu­nity to par­tic­i­pate in a DoD-​​sponsored Blogger’s Roundtable with U.S. Air Force Col. Michael Wobbema, Chief of Staff for the Coalition Air Force Transition Team. His job? Help rebuild the Iraqi Air Force.
With the recent MQ-​​9 Reaper kill that we talked about here on DT, my first ques­tion was if UAVs were going to be included in the the future Iraqi Air Force. With ISR assets (intel­li­gence, sur­veil­lance and recon­nais­sance) such a large part of any oper­a­tion, I was curi­ous if the suc­cess of any Coalition UAV ISR pro­gram is in the cards. COL Wobbema’s reply:

I do not think that we have any kind of unmanned vehi­cle pro­gram estab­lished in the long-​​term plan­ning. Basically what we’re Iraqi Air Force.jpgdoing is we’re using a manned form of the same type of intelligence-​​gathering equip­ment in the form of a Caravan, a Cessna Caravan, that we’ve put an ISR suite on, which is oper­ated by a sen­sor oper­a­tor that’s actu­ally fly­ing in the aircraft.

My next ques­tion cen­tered around what sort of air­craft the Iraqi Air Force can be expected to be fly­ing in the near future:

Well, in the future, of course, you know, I’ve been a fighter guy my whole career, and a lot of the Iraqi air force pilots are all for­mer fighter pilots. And, of course, if they had an unlim­ited bud­get and didn’t want to worry about any­thing else, we’d be buy­ing F-​​16s, F-​​18s for them. Or they would be buy­ing them for them­selves. That’s what they’d be want­ing to do.
But we have to walk before we can run, and right now we’ve got some C-​​130 air­craft on the ground that they’re oper­at­ing. There are some MI-​​17 for the rotary-​​wing side. They’ve got a few Hueys. And then we’ve got this Cessna Caravan. The Cessna Caravan will also become — there will be an armed vari­ant of that that will come online. And then they’ll move into — the next iter­a­tion will be a light– attack air­craft of some sort, prob­a­bly a propeller-​​driven kind of light-​​attack air­craft that can take care of their most imme­di­ate need, and that is to deal with the insur­gency that’s tak­ing place inside their own bor­ders.
From there, then, it will migrate to being able to develop an air defense capa­bil­ity to pro­tect their bor­ders from out­side influ­ence. And then, from there, you know, who knows? At some point in time I sus­pect that they will ulti­mately migrate to becom­ing a fully inte­grated part of the world community.

Thinking back to the air order of bat­tle that existed in Iraq 17 years ago, those days are far in the future. Currently any exter­nal threat that may require a robust air defense capa­bil­ity can and will be han­dled by coali­tion air­craft that remain in the­ater or are oper­at­ing off­shore from car­rier strike groups. Same goes for Close Air Support (CAS), either on-​​call from a CAS-​​stack or some form of alert launch, in sup­port of ground oper­a­tions. Self-​​determination from a mil­i­tary avi­a­tion per­spec­tive is in in the cards, but not for a while.
COL Wobbema has a num­ber of other fas­ci­nat­ing things to pass on in this inter­view and you can read the arti­cle from DefenseLink News here or read the tran­script of the round­table here.
Above photo shows mem­bers of 52nd Flying Training Squadron stand­ing in for­ma­tion as the first stu­dents arrive to the Iraqi air force fly­ing train­ing school at Kirkuk Air Base, Iraq. This flight was offi­cially the first sor­tie flown by the school as the four Iraqi air force stu­dents took con­trol of the air­craft for a few min­utes in tran­sit to see what it is they are work­ing toward. The school will instruct the stu­dents in both fixed– and rotary-​​wing pilot­ing. Photo by Senior Airman Jeremy McGuffin, USAF
–Pinch Paisley

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  1. Benjamin Fan says:
    October 31, 2007 at 10:34 pm

    I’m get­ting ahead of myself, but it would be fas­ci­nat­ing to see an Iraqi Air Force equipped with advanced model F-​​16s. Such an order, if placed so that deliv­ery takes place in between 2013–2016, might help tide over Lockheed’s F-​​16 pro­duc­tion line until the time the Lightning II kicks into full pro­duc­tion mode, espe­cially with the recent hitches in the Lightning II program.

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  2. demophilus says:
    November 1, 2007 at 12:02 am

    Good push on the UAV angle, Pinch. It’s a nat­ural for the IAF.
    Given the…um…contradictions of The Iraq Situation, I doubt IAF will be given CAS assets any­time soon. FAC UAVs are another mat­ter. And, given a local’s enhanced under­stand­ing of the “human ter­rain”, an IAF UAV pilot and his crew might have a good han­dle on where to send a FAC UAV.
    Ditto for manned FAC vs. CAS. IIRC, USAF issued an RFP for a tur­bo­prop CAS plat­form, and some peo­ple were push­ing hard for the Super Tucano. Don’t know if that makes sense, when there are so many barely used L-​​39s in the world, and some prospec­tive IAF pilots already have time in type.
    If you go manned FAC, two per­son teams, IAF pilot, US weapons offi­cer, might work for the near term. It might be a wee bit tense, like those old timey USAF ICBM silo teams, with the match­ing keys that had to be used together, and the pis­tols, JIC there were any mis­un­der­stand­ings.
    Apart from that, I can see hand­ing them C-​​130s, see­ing as we’ve burned out all the Sherpas, and the C-​​27s aren’t on line yet. But they prob­a­bly still have pilots with time in type on Antonovs, and those are as com­mon and cheap as dirt.
    Apart from that, the Caravan’s a hell of a bird, but there are more capa­ble STOL/​utility plat­forms.
    OTOH, maybe the Iranians will give them some of their MIGs back.

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  3. Mark Pyruz says:
    November 1, 2007 at 1:20 am

    Woe to the van­quished. Gone are the squadrons of MiG-​​25, MiG-​​23, MiG-​​21, Mirage F1, SU-​​20, SU-​​22, TU-​​22 and more. Not to men­tion the scores of IrAF pilots. What wasn’t shot out of the sky by Iranian Tomcats and HAWK SAM’s, fled to Iran in ’91.
    Now the IrAF flies a few C-​​130 Herc’s and a Cesna? Unbelievable. And this is con­sid­ered some kind of rebuild­ing effort? Compared to the effort made for South VietNam dur­ing the late 1960’s and early 1970’s, it’s obvi­ous there is nowhere near the nec­es­sary US con­fi­dence to put forth an ade­quately recon­sti­tuted IrAF.

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  4. 22lr says:
    November 1, 2007 at 9:02 am

    No its called money and time. You cant have a huge Airforce over night. And since they have had to start from the begin­ning, it will take a while. The worse thing that could hap­pen is if we sent them a few hun­dred Migs or what ever and told them, here ya go have fun. It takes train­ing, and time.

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  5. Grandjester says:
    November 1, 2007 at 11:23 am

    Yeah, the UAV’s would seem a nat­ural fit.
    Let’s get these boys some Super Tocanos and let ‘em go to work!

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  6. Mike says:
    November 1, 2007 at 12:18 pm

    Seems rea­son­able to me to push cost and main­tain­abil­ity as equal pri­or­i­ties to per­for­mance, at least ‘high per­for­mance’. Certainly the imme­di­ate need is for the IrAF to be able to sup­port ground troops, not engage in Air com­bat. Transport, cargo, and spotting/​recon seem like the long poles in the tent, then maybe close air sup­port.
    Regarding recon, does any­body have pics of sen­sor balls installed on these ‘civie’ prop planes (Caravan, Tucano, Otter, etc.) I usu­ally only see the FLIR pods, etc, installed on state of the art UAV, police chop­pers, and jets.

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  7. bilard says:
    December 16, 2007 at 4:10 pm

    You have very inter­est­ing site.Thanks for all.

    Reply
  8. bilard says:
    December 16, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    You have very inter­est­ing site.Thanks for all.

    Reply
  9. Taylor McKinnon says:
    June 23, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    From a logis­ti­cians view­point the L-​​39 argu­ment makes a lot of sense as their old mechan­ics who have returned will have had expe­ri­ence on the bird. This could save years of train­ing time get­ting them into the air. Not to men­tion the expe­ri­enced pilots.

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