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	<title>Comments on: A New Russian Frigate at Last</title>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/12/05/a-new-russian-frigate-at-last/#comment-235845</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 02:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Stereguschy as well as the Soobrazitelnyi is, with less than 2000tons displacement, clearly a corvette and not a frigate (2000-5000 tons). The new Russian frigate will, with 4500 tons, be the Admiral Gorshkov. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Stereguschy as well as the Soobrazitelnyi is, with less than 2000tons displacement, clearly a corvette and not a frigate (2000–5000 tons). The new Russian frigate will, with 4500 tons, be the Admiral Gorshkov.</p>
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		<title>By: Rotorhead</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/12/05/a-new-russian-frigate-at-last/#comment-171270</link>
		<dc:creator>Rotorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The proposed new destroyers of the Admiral Gorshkov class appear to be a modification of the existing Udaloy class hull and machinery in the same way the Sovremenny class are built on the hull and machinery of the previous Berkut ( Nato Kresta ) I and II.  Russia is not at this point able to advance the state of the art in naval architecture, and their machinery reliability is always in question.  The Berkut, btw, was itself a derivative of the earlier Kynda hull and machinery, who&#039;s basic power plant has powered just about every steam powered ship since then.  Double that power plant and you have what pushes a Kuznetsov along.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The proposed new destroyers of the Admiral Gorshkov class appear to be a modification of the existing Udaloy class hull and machinery in the same way the Sovremenny class are built on the hull and machinery of the previous Berkut ( Nato Kresta ) I and II.  Russia is not at this point able to advance the state of the art in naval architecture, and their machinery reliability is always in question.  The Berkut, btw, was itself a derivative of the earlier Kynda hull and machinery, who’s basic power plant has powered just about every steam powered ship since then.  Double that power plant and you have what pushes a Kuznetsov along.</p>
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		<title>By: Doz</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/12/05/a-new-russian-frigate-at-last/#comment-171265</link>
		<dc:creator>Doz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing - the article&#039;s got the armament wrong it neglects to mention the eight anti-ship missiles - in two cells of four missiles each- are concealed amidships. What I can only assume are vents for the exhaust of the missile&#039;s engine is visible in the pictures below.
The first five ships (the article is wrong on that too, four additional ships of the class are being built - STOIKY, BOIKYY, SOOBRAZITEL&#039;NYY, and SOVERSHENNYY) are armed with Uran AShMs (Harpoonski) - following units will be armed with eight supersonic Oniks and probably stronger air defence systems than the Kashtan.
Sorry for the nitpicks, it just irks me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing — the article’s got the armament wrong it neglects to mention the eight anti-ship missiles — in two cells of four missiles each– are concealed amidships. What I can only assume are vents for the exhaust of the missile’s engine is visible in the pictures below.<br />
The first five ships (the article is wrong on that too, four additional ships of the class are being built — STOIKY, BOIKYY, SOOBRAZITEL’NYY, and SOVERSHENNYY) are armed with Uran AShMs (Harpoonski) — following units will be armed with eight supersonic Oniks and probably stronger air defence systems than the Kashtan.<br />
Sorry for the nitpicks, it just irks me.</p>
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		<title>By: Doz</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/12/05/a-new-russian-frigate-at-last/#comment-171264</link>
		<dc:creator>Doz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And finally, the Stereguschy at IMDS 07 (IIRC) - ready to be properly presented with a decent paint job :) (again, helo hangar).
(this picture is large and high quality)
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3596/20380corvette02as5.jpg
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And finally, the Stereguschy at IMDS 07 (IIRC) — ready to be properly presented with a decent paint job :) (again, helo hangar).<br />
(this picture is large and high quality)<br />
<a href="http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3596/20380corvette02as5.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3596/20380corvette02as5.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doz</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/12/05/a-new-russian-frigate-at-last/#comment-171263</link>
		<dc:creator>Doz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a rear shot of the Stereguschy (before she was fully painted) - helicopter hangar clearly visible.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/snake65/20380_3.jpg
And here&#039;s the Stereguschy from another angle.
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6867/06369013bo6.jpg
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a rear shot of the Stereguschy (before she was fully painted) — helicopter hangar clearly visible.<br />
<a href="http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/snake65/20380_3.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/snake65/20380_3.jpg</a><br />
And here’s the Stereguschy from another angle.<br />
<a href="http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6867/06369013bo6.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6867/06369013bo6.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doz</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/12/05/a-new-russian-frigate-at-last/#comment-171262</link>
		<dc:creator>Doz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article is inaccurate. Not only does the Stereguschy very obviously have a helicopter hangar, which you can see by simply looking at Google image search, Russia is also building the Project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov class frigates/destroyers (the terminology in this article is different from that usually used - ie. the Neustrashimiy is commonly called a frigate, not a destroyer) which are much larger than the Stereguschy ships (which are commonly called corvettes).
And I don&#039;t know what that picture is supposed to be, but it&#039;s not a Stereguschy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is inaccurate. Not only does the Stereguschy very obviously have a helicopter hangar, which you can see by simply looking at Google image search, Russia is also building the Project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov class frigates/destroyers (the terminology in this article is different from that usually used — ie. the Neustrashimiy is commonly called a frigate, not a destroyer) which are much larger than the Stereguschy ships (which are commonly called corvettes).<br />
And I don’t know what that picture is supposed to be, but it’s not a Stereguschy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/12/05/a-new-russian-frigate-at-last/#comment-171260</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy may be a little Paranoid, But it would be hard to drive a ship through destroyed locks.
The Japanese tried in WW2, but they put together a plan too late in the game.
If it is one thing we know the Chinese are using lessons learned from the Japanese. Just look at their currency manipulation and unfair business practices. And political campaign </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy may be a little Paranoid, But it would be hard to drive a ship through destroyed locks.<br />
The Japanese tried in WW2, but they put together a plan too late in the game.<br />
If it is one thing we know the Chinese are using lessons learned from the Japanese. Just look at their currency manipulation and unfair business practices. And political campaign</p>
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		<title>By: AGK</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/12/05/a-new-russian-frigate-at-last/#comment-35518</link>
		<dc:creator>AGK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^...and don&#039;t forget those damn Americans!;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^…and don’t forget those damn Americans!;)</p>
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