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Home » Bubbleheads, etc. » Subs in the GWOT

Subs in the GWOT

Kilo Class submarine.jpg
The Global War on Terror has gelled as a bloody slugfest in which infor­ma­tion is power and per­cep­tions are every­thing. Many ter­ror­ist activ­i­ties take place in or near coastal pop­u­la­tion cen­ters, span lit­torals, and tran­sit oceans and seas. This new type of fight­ing — assy­met­ric and amor­phous — has required the con­stant updat­ing of tra­di­tional sub­ma­rine mis­sions and the def­i­n­i­tion of whole new mis­sions. Many of these task­ings were vir­tu­ally unheard of in their present guise as recently as 2000, but now are increas­ingly com­mon­place. And beneath a cloak of deep secrecy, the Silent Service brings home the bacon time after time.

The pro­lif­er­a­tion of mod­ern diesel boats, some equipped with air-​​independent propul­sion, has shifted the empha­sis of anti-​​submarine war­fare in the early 21st cen­tury. The stren­u­ous per­fect­ing of the dif­fi­cult shallow-​​water and blue-​​water ASW tasks con­tin­ues apace, not only to pro­tect our mil­i­tary and com­mer­cial ship­ping assets under­way, but also to pre­vent ter­ror­ists and rogues from trav­el­ing from their lit­torals to our lit­torals. Cooperative multi-​​national exer­cises demon­strate that the best weapon against an enemy diesel sub con­tin­ues to be an American nuclear sub.

Because the oppo­si­tion in the war against ter­ror con­sists of sub-​​state and trans-​​state bad actors, aided some­times by regimes or fac­tions within pariah states, the map­ping of hos­tile com­mand and con­trol infra­struc­tures — which redesign them­selves con­stantly and relo­cate fre­quently — is par­tic­u­larly impor­tant. For the same rea­son, uncon­ven­tional weapons of mass destruc­tion indi­ca­tions and warn­ings need high pri­or­ity. These intel­li­gence, sur­veil­lance, and recon­nais­sance mis­sions are roles for which U.S. Navy subs proved deci­sive against the USSR, a legacy of skills and achieve­ments directly rel­e­vant to com­bat­ing global Islamofascism.

The anti-​​surface war­fare mis­sion has taken on new dimen­sions, too, from brown water through green water to blue water. Piracy is a sig­nif­i­cant detri­ment to world­wide good order and thriv­ing com­merce. Modern pirates oper­ate in lit­toral areas that are fre­quently hotbeds for ter­ror­ism; their activ­i­ties and per­son­nel over­lap. Suppressing piracy yields div­i­dends against ter­ror. One means of uncon­ven­tional WMD deliv­ery is a cargo ship. Al Qaeda report­edly con­trols as many as two dozen ves­sels world­wide. Constantly mon­i­tor­ing, track­ing, and tak­ing down ter­ror­ist Q-​​ships is vital. Terrorism gets funds from illicit traf­fic in drugs, con­ven­tional weapons, and human beings. Interdiction of con­tra­band trade pro­vides an imme­di­ate, pow­er­ful way to sever enemy logis­tics, dis­rupt enemy attacks, and pro­duce indis­pens­able intel­li­gence to plan more counter-​​terror efforts. Subs are ideal for qui­etly stak­ing out and polic­ing the nau­ti­cal com­mu­ni­ca­tions arter­ies used by evil­do­ers, help­ing effi­ciently vec­tor in sur­face and air­borne forces as required.

Especially when equipped with next gen­er­a­tion under­sea and aer­ial mini-​​vehicles, nuclear subs pos­sess unique capa­bil­i­ties to clan­des­tinely iden­tify, eaves­drop on, trail, and even inter­dict a broad spec­trum of threats. Their crews pro­vide our nation with sus­tained covert access into very shal­low waters seam­less with all-​​weather pres­ence out to far past any inter­na­tional lim­its. The Silent Service per­fected indis­pens­able skills in the Cold War, and beneath a cloak of deep secrecy is ply­ing them urgently, daily, dur­ing the Global War on Terror.

(Photo: One of three Russian-​​built Kilo Class sub­marines in ser­vice with the Iranian Navy.)

– Joe Buff

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  1. Bob Melley says:
    January 2, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    Lots of com­ments like Joe’s are hit­ting var­i­ous websites.……The one point to remem­ber is that D/​E boats and even the new AIP equipped boats all make noise when they re-​​charge their batteries.….they’re quiet when they’re sit­ting and lying in wait.….but, to get the job done it takes fast nukes with more crew and on board capac­ity to oper­ate all the new elec­tronic gear (net­work cen­tric shar­ing etc.) on board, get the info needed to com­bat ter­ror­ists, and hit them where they live and hide if nec­es­saary and then “get outa Dodge” at high speed. Yes, there’s a place for D/​E boats, for some coun­tries they’re
    an important/​critical part of the 21st cen­tury naval weapon sys­tem option…they play a role in denial of access, rather than tak­ing over,or co-​​opting, the role of SSNs, SSGNs and boomers in tak­ing the war to the enemy’s littorals.

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  2. TB says:
    January 2, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    The Global War on Terror?
    I couldn’t have answered bet­ter myself:
    http://​www​.schneier​.com/​b​l​o​g​/​a​r​c​h​i​v​e​s​/​2​0​0​8​/​0​1​/​w​a​r​_​o​n​_​t​e​r​r​o​r​_​o​.​h​tml

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  3. Mark Pyruz says:
    January 2, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    Interesting Joe that you would fea­ture a photo of an Iranian Navy sub­ma­rine. Iran’s defense uti­lizes sub­marines in a tra­di­tional role, within its con­ven­tional naval force. While the Pasdaran (IRGC) has recently been iden­ti­fied as a ter­ror­ist orga­ni­za­tion by the US gov­ern­ment, the Iranian Navy is not cat­e­go­rized as such. Technically, poten­tial USN tar­get­ing of these sub­marines is not an ele­ment of the GWOT.

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  4. greg in ak says:
    January 2, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    I like to hear diverg­ing view­points and all. even from those who i sharply dis­agree with. and i hold a great admi­ra­tion for the sub ser­vice and their capa­bil­i­ties. but this is sales pitch or press release or adver­tis­ing copy. this would make a great brochure at a weapons show.
    oh. subs can’t defeat ter­ror. they are really good at blow­ing up things, espe­cially ships. and their cruise mis­siles go boom well and SEALS are good at mak­ing things go boom.

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  5. greg in ak says:
    January 2, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    I like to hear diverg­ing view­points and all. even from those who i sharply dis­agree with. and i hold a great admi­ra­tion for the sub ser­vice and their capa­bil­i­ties. but this is sales pitch or press release or adver­tis­ing copy. this would make a great brochure at a weapons show.
    oh. subs can’t defeat ter­ror. they are really good at blow­ing up things, espe­cially ships. and their cruise mis­siles go boom well and SEALS are good at mak­ing things go boom.

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  6. Flea says:
    January 3, 2008 at 7:22 am

    I agree with Greg. This is a pecu­liar post reit­er­at­ing the lit­toral war spiel I have heard over and over again in defense sec­tor cor­po­rate videos. “Many ter­ror­ist activ­i­ties take place in or near coastal pop­u­la­tion cen­ters, span lit­torals, and tran­sit oceans and seas.” Well, yes, so do many film mak­ing activ­i­ties, bank­ing activ­i­ties and fash­ion design activ­i­ties. Are we meant to believe this makes sub­marines help­ful in any of those indus­tries? I would also appre­ci­ate some cor­rob­o­ra­tion of your claim American SSNs remain the best weapon against new SSKs. I recently defended the role of SSNs in seri­ous blue water navies — the USN and the Royal Navy specif­i­cally — and could use some rhetor­i­cal ammo. As an unsub­stan­ti­ated asser­tion, the claim does not do much to sup­port your argu­ment; what­ever that might be.

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  7. M says:
    January 3, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Joe Buff has his own Web site, which repro­duces the essays he has writ­ten for Military​.com.
    Re his asser­tion mod­ern SSNs are the best defense against non­nu­clear subs, you’ll find the fol­low­ing arti­cles much more spe­cific:
    http://​www​.joe​buff​.com/​e​s​s​a​y​7​7​.​htm
    http://​www​.joe​buff​.com/​e​s​s​a​y​7​9​.​htm
    http://​www​.joe​buff​.com/​e​s​s​a​y​1​2​2​.​htm

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  8. M says:
    January 3, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Joe Buff has his own Web site, which repro­duces the essays he has writ­ten for Military​.com.
    Re his asser­tion mod­ern SSNs are the best defense against non­nu­clear subs, you’ll find the fol­low­ing arti­cles much more spe­cific:
    http://​www​.joe​buff​.com/​e​s​s​a​y​7​7​.​htm
    http://​www​.joe​buff​.com/​e​s​s​a​y​7​9​.​htm
    http://​www​.joe​buff​.com/​e​s​s​a​y​1​2​2​.​htm

    Reply
  9. M says:
    January 3, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Joe Buff has his own Web site, which repro­duces the essays he has writ­ten for Military​.com.
    Re his asser­tion mod­ern SSNs are the best defense against non­nu­clear subs, you’ll find the fol­low­ing arti­cles much more spe­cific:
    http://​www​.joe​buff​.com/​e​s​s​a​y​7​7​.​htm
    http://​www​.joe​buff​.com/​e​s​s​a​y​7​9​.​htm
    http://​www​.joe​buff​.com/​e​s​s​a​y​1​2​2​.​htm

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  10. Rhyno327/lrsd says:
    January 3, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    maybe a few Iranian subs should “dis­s­a­pear”? they got hit by mines, ah, they shot at a US boat and the tor­pedo cir­cled back and blew it up…GET RID of them. Tell them ANYTHING, but the truth-​​we decided enough was enough and we sunk ur subs…wat they gonna do? Yeah, they will march, beat up thier faces and such, but we will not have to worry about sub­marines any longer. DO It!!!!!!!

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  11. sferrin says:
    January 3, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    Did I miss some­thing? Is the GWOT the only thing we need to worry about for the next 40 years? I sup­pose some think we can just do with­out SSNs, close the yards, and then what? Buy our SSNs from China when we inevitibly dis­cover “uh, I guess we needed them after all”?

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  12. Emas says:
    January 4, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    The whole “subs deliv­er­ing SEAL teams” jus­ti­fi­ca­tion is just silly. Buy them air­line tick­ets (works for our ene­mies), have them HALO in, anthing. Save a bil­lion dol­lars.
    Frankly a team of SEALS/​Delta etc really don’t accom­plish much. Wars are won by the big batallions.

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  13. Paul says:
    February 3, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    The ter­ror­ists are in nor­mal places,just as much
    as the rest of their countries.Therefore,fear which causes confusion/​bad con­science­ness or clouded abilities,is all known by them and is being per­fected in their own ways etc.And it’s called in Greek“Akouo or dpthong!” Akouo=to hear
    and dpthong=water depth mea­sue­ments etc​.It should
    be called bisuche(two-souled,schitzo!)

    Reply
  14. 2moons dil says:
    August 13, 2008 at 2:32 am

    All things are the mem­o­ries, before all things have been imprinted in my mind, the friends all have left the 2moons, some­times before when the sleep­ing I often think of the pre­vi­ous screen, together with friends upgrade, earn the 2moons dil and together play with friends, play­ing now I also feel­ing some tired, I do not know what things I per­sist in

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  15. 2moons gold says:
    August 13, 2008 at 2:34 am

    they often like to ask some­thing about the play­ers looks like, fam­ily, and in the game can earn how much 2moons gold, I do not know these peo­ple are play­ing the game or game play them. Some peo­ple often put some pic­ture to the Internet, she thought that this way can let peo­ple feel humil­i­ated, but I think they are wrong

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  16. flyff penya says:
    August 13, 2008 at 2:43 am

    Like per­son calm down and slowly the feel­ing of think­ing, I need think­ing of by myself; the tears fill­ing my eyes, my heart have noth­ing, I feel that o lose the all things, the world already give up me, the lin­ger­ing shadow of shak­ing in my face, in order to play this game I spend money to buy the flyff penya, the BB again left me at the same time, same sit­u­a­tion when I hard to get it, my angry can not use the words describe, if I was not oper­ated for a full and the lack of time, then I do not have any words to say, but last time also like this.

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  17. flyff gold says:
    August 13, 2008 at 2:45 am

    Other play­ers can, I think I can too, many play­ers said that BB can let us get more flyff gold, if you do not have enough flyff gold in the game, and then you can not do many things, in the real­ity world also like this. But I more like through my effort to get the suc­cess, that suc­cess can let me mem­o­rable forever.

    Reply
  18. fiesta Gold says:
    August 13, 2008 at 2:48 am

    I think for you it is easy, do not have enough fiesta Gold, the game screen was clear and con­cise, in the game the mon­ster were very lovely, the visual effect of the game is good too, they can point con­ver­sion, com­pared humanity!65

    Reply
  19. rofl says:
    March 31, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    But they can’t find ter­ror­ists on the sea’s of Afrika ? Waste of money and energy.Hence our econ­omy and espies.

    Reply

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