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Home » Cyber-warfare » Hacking the Dreamliner?

Hacking the Dreamliner?

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Along with the stan­dard spiels about exit rows and seat belts, flight atten­dents of the future might add this to their repetoires: “The cap­tain has requested that all pas­sen­gers close their browsers until he regains con­trol of the aircraft.”

Recently the AP reported on a pos­si­ble unin­tended con­se­quence of offer­ing Internet access to all pas­sen­gers on Boeing’s 787 Dreamliner. Here’s an except:

Before Boeing Co.‘s new 787 jet­liner gets the green light to fly pas­sen­gers, the air­craft maker will have to prove that offer­ing Internet access in the cabin won’t leave the flight con­trols vul­ner­a­ble to hack­ers and hijackers.

Boeing claims it has engi­neered safe­guards to shut out unau­tho­rized users, but some secu­rity ana­lysts worry nav­i­ga­tion and com­mu­ni­ca­tions sys­tems could be vulnerable.

“The odds of this being per­fect are zero,” said Bruce Schneier, chief tech­nol­ogy offi­cer at the secu­rity ser­vices firm BT Counterpane. “It’s pos­si­ble Boeing can make their con­nec­tion to the Internet secure. If they do, it will be the first time in mankind anyone’s done that.”

But Boeing spokes­woman Lori Gunter said 787’s avi­a­tion elec­tron­ics “are not con­nected in any way to the Internet.”

Boeing has designed the 787 to allow air­lines to offer pas­sen­gers more in-​​flight enter­tain­ment and Internet options than pre­vi­ous planes have allowed.

Those new fea­tures and other aspects of 787’s com­puter net­work go beyond the scope of exist­ing reg­u­la­tions, so the Federal Aviation Administration is requir­ing Boeing to show the new tech­nol­ogy won’t pose a safety threat.

In a “spe­cial con­di­tion” the FAA has ordered Boeing to sat­isfy, the agency notes that the 787 “allows new kinds of pas­sen­ger con­nec­tiv­ity to pre­vi­ously iso­lated data net­works con­nected to sys­tems that per­form func­tions required for the safe oper­a­tion of the airplane.

“Because of this new pas­sen­ger con­nec­tiv­ity, the pro­posed data net­work design and inte­gra­tion may result in secu­rity vul­ner­a­bil­i­ties from inten­tional or unin­ten­tional cor­rup­tion of data and sys­tems crit­i­cal to the safety and main­te­nance of the airplane.”

Read the entire AP report here.

– Ward

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  1. C says:
    January 15, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    there’s not much to say about this from a tech­nol­o­gist vs para­noia stand­point other than: this is stupid

    Reply
  2. C says:
    January 15, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    wait, i feel i should elab­o­rate instead of just leav­ing it at that. there is NO rea­son why flight and entertainment/​passenger com­mu­ni­ca­tions sys­tems can’t or won’t be com­pletely and phys­i­cally sep­a­rate. boe­ing would have to be inten­tion­ally incom­pe­tent in their sys­tems designs to place any link between the two.
    there are already two-​​way pas­sen­ger satel­lite com­mu­ni­ca­tions sys­tems onboard, this wouldn’t be any dif­fer­ent. the LAN would be con­nected to the pas­sen­ger comms sys­tem and that’s it. there aren’t any sys­tems on com­mer­cial air­craft that use 802.11 fre­quen­cies for any com­mu­ni­ca­tions or con­trols.
    this is sim­ply the result of some para­noid tech­no­log­i­cally un-​​savvy politi­cian or com­mit­tee mem­ber try­ing to make waves.

    Reply
  3. Vitor says:
    January 15, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    Worried about hack­ers when we all know that the main dan­ger is snakes inside the plane!

    Reply
  4. Trafficgeek says:
    January 15, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    How do you hack pass an air-​​gap? Social engi­neer the flight atten­dant with a cross-​​over cable.
    …give me a break…

    Reply
  5. yrch says:
    January 15, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Why would they con­nect the flight con­trols to the network?

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  6. Vstress says:
    January 16, 2008 at 5:21 am

    The flight con­trol com­put­ers are not going to be affected — this is a mis­un­der­stand­ing (and an under­stand­able one, the way the arti­cle is worded).
    Flight con­trol com­put­ers are a com­pletely iso­lated struc­ture — each sys­tems is. There are (3–4 usu­ally to allow the iden­ti­fi­ca­tion of a failed com­puter). Each com­puter often runs on a seper­ate pro­gram to ensure that there aren’t any iden­ti­cal errors.
    However here is the expla­na­tion — what they referred to in the experpt “allows new kinds of pas­sen­ger con­nec­tiv­ity to pre­vi­ously iso­lated data net­works con­nected to sys­tems that per­form func­tions required for the safe oper­a­tion of the air­plane“
    These iso­lated net­works are data trans­fer for weather and/​or other infor­ma­tion that would be passed to the pilot — but noth­ing that can’t also be com­mu­ni­cated via a radio.
    Yes this affects the pilot deci­sion (and thus flight safety) — but to be truth­ful it’s an exag­ger­a­tion of a tiny prob­lem. I per­son­ally think it’s more likely that some­one would trans­mit false infor­ma­tion on VHF to pilots, which is eas­ier to accom­plish.
    Silly issue to raise when other threats are more sig­nif­i­cant (ie. small arms fire on land­ing a/​c) — per­son­ally I think it’s a clear attack on Boeing’s integrity rather than any­thing else. (while I do work in aero­space, no I don’t work for Boeing — so it’s merely an out­side opinion)

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  7. CH says:
    January 16, 2008 at 10:29 am

    First off: I have never seen a men­tion of wire­less for this sys­tem. Why are we assum­ing this is wire­less? It is far more likely to be wired.
    Second: The two sys­tems should be phys­i­cally sep­a­rated. There is no good rea­son not to phys­i­cally sep­a­rate them, but Airbus seems to defend Boeing here (also from an AP report):
    “Boeing rival Airbus SAS argues that the only way to sat­isfy the new require­ment would be to phys­i­cally sep­a­rate the pas­sen­ger infor­ma­tion and enter­tain­ment sys­tems from all other sys­tems on the plane.
    Airbus told the FAA in a writ­ten com­ment that such a solu­tion “is not tech­ni­cally and oper­a­tionally viable.“
    Why not?
    No, the avion­ics are not directly con­nected to the web, but appar­ently a phys­i­cal path with only log­i­cal bar­ri­ers exists. Is that really good enough in the real-​​world? To date, expe­ri­ence says ‘no’. Don’t for­get, the secu­rity con­cerns do not just exist when a pas­sen­ger is sit­ting in their seat on their lap­top — the plane itself now has an address on the inter­net, and while it is on, any­one any­where can be try­ing to get in. Given all of the atten­tion to ‘cyber-​​warfare’ on this site you would think that some more peo­ple would be think­ing of those ram­i­fi­ca­tions. Maybe a nation-​​state isn’t going to hack your pub­lic air­plane and bring it down, but what about a more sophis­ti­cated ter­ror­ist net­work? Maybe the cur­rent crop can’t, but don’t expect that to last.
    Personally, I’ll side with the group who says phys­i­cally sep­a­rate it or leave it out. As Scneier said, It’s pos­si­ble Boeing can make their con­nec­tion to the Internet secure. If they do, it will be the first time in mankind anyone’s done that.”

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  8. C says:
    January 16, 2008 at 11:05 am

    CH:
    the plane does not have an address on the inter­net. the router has an address, the lap­tops have an address, the enter­tain­ment server has an address. it’s so fan­tas­ti­cally easy to sep­a­rate sys­tems. anec­do­tal evi­dence: we have a closed net­work here at the office with no wire­less access point. there isn’t ANYTHING that’s not con­nected to the phys­i­cal net­work that can get into any of the nodes on that nework short of some­one with some pretty advanced mon­i­tor­ing equip­ment next to the sys­tems. at that point you’re com­pro­mised any­way.
    another note: Norwegian Airlines just announced it would offer wire­less inter­net etc on it’s flights:
    http://​news​.yahoo​.com/​s​/​n​m​/​2​0​0​8​0​1​1​5​/​w​r​_​n​m​/​n​o​r​w​e​g​i​a​n​_​m​o​b​i​l​e​_dc
    Quantas is rolling it out in 2008, as is Virgin Atlantic. this isn’t some new fron­tier, it’s Airbus try­ing to stall the 787.

    Reply
  9. BH says:
    January 16, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Seems to me that Boeing would have to inten­tion­ally engi­neer in some form of con­nec­tiv­ity for the internet/​entertainment sys­tems to the air­craft ARINC and Mil-​​STD-​​1553 busses that the var­i­ous air­craft avion­ics sys­tems use to com­mu­ni­cate with each other. It seems to me that it would be pretty sim­ple to run a ded­i­cated eth­er­net net­work through­out the air­craft for each pas­sen­ger to plug their lap­top into if they want to surf the net at Fl 380. Just put a jack at each seat and run it to a ded­i­cated server with satel­lite access to the inter­net. Charge the cus­tomers a fee for con­nec­tiv­ity and away you go. Then you sim­ply have to fig­ure a way to keep the server from being hacked, but at least there is no threat to the air­craft or its systems.

    Reply
  10. ohwilleke says:
    January 16, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Why would any­one ever con­nect the two sys­tems? The arti­cle cer­tainly implies that
    The only ratio­nal con­nec­tion I would imag­ine that would make sense would be a shared power sup­ply, and a sim­ple fuse lim­it­ing power draw from the enter­tain­ment sys­tem ought to solve that problem.

    Reply
  11. CH says:
    January 16, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    C,
    I’m not inter­ested in a flame­war over this, but avoid the triv­ial seman­tics. The router has an address, it is on the plane. One can safely gen­er­al­ize and say the plane has an address. If some­one offers to deliver some­thing to your front door do you say you don’t have a front door, that your house has a front door? If some­one says they have inter­net access do you tell them that they don’t, that it is their cable/​adsl/​whatever modem that has it? The avion­ics are appar­ently not on a closed sys­tem, so I can call it the plane’s address.
    I m not opposed to inter­net con­nec­tion on a plane. I agree with those rais­ing con­cerns over an inter­net con­nec­tion that is not com­pletely and phys­i­cally sep­a­rated from the avion­ics sys­tems on a plane. By phys­i­cally sep­a­rated, I do not mean a router or fire­wall, but com­plete phys­i­cal sep­a­ra­tion. There should never be a chance for a packet to ever make it from one sys­tem to the other ever. Much like the closed net­work you men­tion in your office.
    Things like routers/​firewalls are not fool­proof. Exploits do appear that allow ne’er-do-wells to gain com­plete admin­is­tra­tive access to them. Once that hap­pens your defenses are severely com­pro­mised.
    Airbus was not sand­bag­ging Boeing on this. They said that to meet the new require­ments it would require two phys­i­cally sep­a­rate sys­tems and that wasn’t viable. Sounds to me, like both are say­ing that the two sys­tems must be inter­con­nected.
    “Boeing rival Airbus SAS argues that the only way to sat­isfy the new require­ment would be to phys­i­cally sep­a­rate the pas­sen­ger infor­ma­tion and enter­tain­ment sys­tems from all other sys­tems on the plane.
    Airbus told the FAA in a writ­ten com­ment that such a solu­tion “is not tech­ni­cally and oper­a­tionally viable.“
    Let’s be hon­est, sys­tem secu­rity is expen­sive and com­pli­cated and it doesn’t sound like Boeing is offer­ing a closed sys­tem, but rather one that is in some way inter­con­nected. Why would an air­line want to take this on?
    On a side note, I don’t get why columns about cyber­war are pop­u­lar and no one par­tic­u­larly argues the dooms­day sce­nar­ios they offer, but some­how think that some com­mer­cial air­liner is going to be any bet­ter protected.

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  12. C says:
    January 16, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    CH, i’m not try­ing to start a flame war, but you must under­stand the prin­ci­ples of a closed sys­tem. i’ll redact my view­point that Airbus isn’t “sand­bag­ging” Boeing when i see a white paper explain­ing why flight and enter­tain­ment sys­tems have to be interconnected.

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  13. C says:
    January 17, 2008 at 12:16 am

    you know what, i’m going to cede here. regard­ing air­bus vs boe­ing, i read that arti­cle wrong. carry on!

    Reply
  14. vnl says:
    February 29, 2008 at 8:10 am

    By the way, I cou­ple of years ago I myself used wire­less inter­net on a Lufthansa Boeing — but appar­ently the project was later abandoned

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