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Home » Trimble on the Case » Second Guessing BAMS

Second Guessing BAMS

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I started cov­er­ing the US Navy’s off-​​again/​on-​​again Broad Area Maritime Surveillance (BAMS) pro­gram about five years ago. It’s been back on for two years and — last I checked — poised for a con­tract selec­tion deci­sion in five days.

This makes me sad because I just thought of an obvi­ous angle for a BAMS story that I’ve missed some­how for the last five years.

If I had the chance to re-​​interview all of the com­peti­tors and USN pro­gram offi­cials, here’s the first ques­tion I would ask: Why is this a win­ner take-​​all award instead of a split-​​buy?

The com­peti­tors for BAMs are the Northrop Grumman RQ-​​4N Global Hawk (high-​​altitude, tur­bo­fan, active elec­tron­i­cally scanned arrays), Lockheed Martin/​General Atomics Mariner (medium-​​altitude, tur­bo­prop, mechan­i­cally scanned arrays) and Boeing/​Gulfstream G-​​550 (high-​​altitude, tur­bo­fan, option­ally manned, mul­ti­ple active arrays).

Each prod­uct is basi­cally an off-​​the-​​shelf plat­form mod­i­fied to meet the USN’s require­ment. The USN is not pay­ing to design a new air­craft. It’s essen­tially buy­ing a la cart. That’s prob­a­bly why each plat­form offers vastly dif­fer­ent oper­a­tional strengths and weaknesses.

This com­pe­ti­tion isn’t a choice between two dis­creetly dif­fer­erent rivals, like the YF-​​22 ver­sus the YF-​​23. This is more like the YF-​​22 ver­sus the B-​​1. Each plat­form is a com­pletely dif­fer­ent capa­bil­ity, but both are use­ful for their intended purpose.

I agree there are down­sides to a split buy award: the upfront costs are higher than a winner-​​takes-​​all award, you lose some of the mar­ginal ben­e­fits of com­mon­al­ity and train­ing gets more complicated.

But there are other advan­tages. The USN would not be beholden to one con­trac­tor for BAMS for the next two or three decades, but could keep play­ing the two teams off each other over the life of the pro­gram. Instead of a nar­rowly focused solu­tion, the USN’s oper­a­tors could employ the plat­form that makes the most sense for each mission.

Not to men­tion the fact that Congress tends to like split buys, as it spreads the jobs more broadly and sub­jects the defense indus­try to greater competition.

I’m not say­ing a split-​​buy is the best answer for BAMS, but rather that it’s an impor­tant and seem­ingly log­i­cal ques­tion that I should have asked long before now.

(Full dis­clo­sure: my wife works for Lockheed.)

– Steve Trimble

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  1. DC2 Jennings says:
    February 8, 2008 at 10:06 am

    I like the idea of using the Global Hawk for area threat detec­tion such as in the Horn of Africa region. It can fly long ranges quickly and stay on sta­tion for a long time.
    You are cor­rect in claim­ing the three air­craft men­tioned are com­ple­men­tary rather that com­pet­i­tive in capa­bil­i­ties. But the Mariner is more or less a Predator, so where would they be based from? Given that it is a tur­bo­prop you will have speed to sta­tion lim­i­ta­tions.
    It might also be that the UCAV is some­thing the Navy is focus­ing more on in lieu of the Mariner. Not exactly the same type of air­craft, but the Mariner can­not land on a car­rier.
    For long endurance, loi­ter mis­sions it looks like the Navy is going to use the Global Hawk. For every­thing else they will use the UCAV (when it even­tu­ally comes on line) and the Fire Scout.
    Maybe it is a Northrop Grumman con­spir­acy since Lokheed Martin has taken over Air Force pro­cure­ment.
    DC2

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  2. Stephen Trimble says:
    February 8, 2008 at 10:59 am

    Mariner has speed to sta­tion lim­i­ta­tions, com­pared to a Global Hawk or G550 per­haps, but it does have advan­tages. It’s already armed, for one thing, if that ever becomes a USN require­ment for BAMS. And it can oper­ate nearer to sea level more effi­ciently if that’s what the mis­sion requires. And some­times lack of speed on sta­tion is a good thing for a sur­veil­lance aircraft.

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  3. Chris says:
    February 8, 2008 at 11:18 am

    First off, the MAriner is not “more or less a Predator” it is a mod­i­fied Predator B, big dif­fer­ence.
    As for the split buy option, that does offer some ben­e­fits but increases the life­cy­cle costs tremen­dously. Two dif­fer­ent set of spare parts, two dif­fer­ent set of main­te­nance man­u­als, two dif­fer­ent set of con­sum­ables, etc.
    And I strongly agree with S. Trimble, it is already qual­i­fied and ready to carry muni­tions so it could per­form com­bat mis­sion as well.

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  4. DC2 Jennings says:
    February 8, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    Chris,
    My apolo­gies, I should have said it is more or less a Predator B.
    I think the Navy is look­ing for a sur­veil­lance only plat­form. They have air­craft car­ri­ers that can per­form the rest of the mis­sions.
    And again, I think for shorter ranges of UAV they are look­ing at UCAV and Fire Scout.

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  5. Chris says:
    February 8, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    DC2,
    No apolo­gies nec­es­sary, the good thing about the Mariner is that with the abil­ity to carry stores it could eas­ily be mod­i­fied to dis­pense sonobuys and other deploy­able sen­sors if needed.
    Short ranges cor­rect, I believe Fire Scout is intended for that role.

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  6. st6ng says:
    February 8, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    Working for GA, I can tell you it is not a Predator, a Pred B aka Hunter Killer aka Reaper, or a Mariner. The only sim­i­lar­ity between the Pred B plat­form are the Hardpoints. Its a new bird.

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  7. ohwilleke says:
    February 8, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    If one con­tract bid pro­duces three such var­ied entrants, it sug­gested to me that the prob­lem is that the U.S. Navy has a pot of money that it isn’t really sure what to do with.
    This is a recipe for the really expen­sive kinds of mis­steps our mil­i­tary is prone to get into, not plain vanilla fraud, waste and abuse, but the syn­drome of resolv­ing uncer­tainty by throw­ing lots of money around with­out a pre­cise goal that is served by doing so.

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  8. DC2 Jennings says:
    February 8, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    Honestly, what I think the Navy is try­ing to do is cre­ate a P-​​3/​P-​​8 with­out a crew. If that were the case then the only com­peti­tor would be the Global Hawk. With the excep­tion that you could not drop sonobouys from 50,000 feet. But you would not need sonobouys unless the air­craft was armed.
    I don’t know if it is a good pro­gram or not to be hon­est with you. I thought the ship thethered Aerostats were pretty good at what they did back in the early 90s. Then they with­drew all of them.
    DC2

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  9. bob says:
    February 11, 2008 at 8:32 am

    I can say that both have strengths and weak­nesses. Global Hawk flies higher and out of the jet stream while preda­tor flies alit­tle lower. Predator is cheaper but does not auto land like global hawk. So if you dont land at your ori­gaional base you have to crash. Satallite oper­a­tor con­trolled land­ings dont work. This is an advan­tage for global hawk who can land at diver fields. I can say that the global hawk has alos crashed allot less than preda­tors. The main prob­lem I forsee with both will be get­ting all of the elec­tri­cal power required for the sen­sors that both com­pa­nies are putting up.

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  10. Mark Gay says:
    March 12, 2008 at 10:36 am

    Fact is that the Carter Aviation “SRCAV’ UAV [VTOL/​SSTOL] will deliver far more effective–and cost-efficient–BAMS capa­bil­ity [as defined in the solic­i­ta­tion] than any of the three rivals com­pet­ing for con­tract award. The Navy’s insis­tence on off-​​the-​​shelf capa­bil­ity for the air plat­form is short-sighted–and will tether the capa­bil­ity to an air­field. Some of the con­trac­tual funds should have been set aside to exper­i­ment for an “Objective” (vice Threshold) BAMS capability.

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  11. John says:
    March 13, 2008 at 10:57 am

    Your rec­om­men­da­tion may actu­ally hap­pen … looks like there will be a BAMS show­down over Secretary Young’s memo which requires a TD phase with a two com­peti­tor pro­to­type “fly­off” before pro­ceed­ing to the SDD phase.

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