Comments on: Spy Satellite Not the First to Fall

By: maple mesos

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By: Everlasting

Everlasting — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:00:16 +0000

I heard today that the satellite was successfully destroyed by a missile.
That reminds me so much of a science fiction book that was published last year called Moon over Key Biscayne. — A light novel that gets into satellites and objects on a collision course with Earth.

By: Byron Skinner

Byron Skinner — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:24:30 +0000

Good Morning freefallingbomb,
It appears freefallingbomb that you have droped another dud, thud. I always know when I get right when folks who lack the guts to us there own name come out with a such reactions as yours.
So go back in your hole and wait for the next post. maybe you will come closer to getting it right.
Sierra Alpha Tango.
ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

By: Old Crusty Chief

Old Crusty Chief — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:22:16 +0000

Re: vstress
There are a few cardinal differences between the ASAT and ABM missions:
The ABM mission in an operational environment will always be a hurry up game. The ABM shooter must be cued to the launch, detect the missile or reentry body, figure out the firing solution, and get the ABM bird(s) in the air within a rather narrow launch window.
The ASAT mission has the luxury of targeting something whose orbit is very predictable and a good deal larger than the reentry body of a ballistic missile. US193 was like the size of a school bus whereas an ICBM reentry body is roughly a man-sized cone. Moreover, the ICBM might deploy decoys or other devious tricks to throw off the ABM shooter.
Not to make light of what the Raytheon and Aegis fellas have done here. This was something for which they had precious little time for which to plan and execute. (NB: This ought to be a lesson for the naybobs and numbskulls who think that every defense program should be buggered for a decade. The Kelly Johnson approach of “give me your requirements and my budget and then leave me the hell alone for a little while.”)
Aegis and Standard were neither designed nor intended to shoot satellites. These fellas had to rewrite, test, test again, and then upload to the ship the software that allowed SPY to acquire, track, and shoot the satellite. Not to mention reconfiguring the birds.
This is a very significant achievement indeed!
Cheers,
Chief B.

By: Vstress

Vstress — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:55:06 +0000

I thought they had already tested this system… I’m sure I heard an anit-ballistic missile weapon was launched last year.
To my knowledge it’s the same thing, anti-sat and anti-ICBM, at least in the apogee and re-entry targeting phases.
You still need the same manouvering/control capability (very little atmosphere at this altitude) and the speeds are similar.
At these speeds you actually also enter general relativity effects (bending of space-time). Designing control and sensor systems for stuff like this is very challenging.
Anyway.. we drop a JDAM on our downed aircraft… why not do it with our satellites too. Keeps prying eyes away! (since as it is well known, the Chinese can’t think of anything new themselves… ie. buying Russian carriers etc.)

By: Old Crusty Chief

Old Crusty Chief — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:05:31 +0000

Re: freefallingbum
As a European, you have Americans to thank for your freedom to natter away here in peace. No thanks necessary. Our fathers and grandfathers fought to save your fathers and grandfathers because it was the right thing to do. For the most part, your elders were at least grateful for the American blood shed for them.
Rest assured that we’ll do it again for your sorry asses should the need again arise. We’re just a little nostalgic and loyal that way. And, besides, we like a good Donnybrook now and again. Younger Europeans, on the other hand, like to stir the pot, talk shit, and complain.
That you’d come here to stir that pot, talk a lot of (ill-informed, ignorant) shit, and complain is expected.
Kilo mike alpha, out.
Chief B.

By: Old Crusty Chief

Old Crusty Chief — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:38:51 +0000

Looks like a good kill for the Navy! Waiting to see the details…
For our colleague freefallingbomb:
My dear naive young friend, your ignorance is a refreshing! Not the first inkling of how orbital mechanics work, no understanding of how many “deck scrubbing” Sailors are involved in a missile shoot (or how quickly Charlie Noble gets out the scuttlebutt on what the ship is doing), not a thimble-full of understanding of the size of the U.S. economy nor of how small the Defense budget is vis-as-vis social welfare programs, and a stunning ignorance of world history and Communism’s bloody part in it.
But who am I to argue against the wisdom of university academics who’ve never done a damned thing but go to school? Surely by now they’ve managed to completely revise the history of the purges, pogroms, re-education camps, gulags, and mass graves. Surely by now Stalin, Mao, and Uncle Ho have been thoroughly rehabilitated. I imagine that they now toil ceaselessly to reveal Sadam Hussein as a great thinker, benevolent leader, and victim of U.S. aggression.
The trillions we’ve “wasted” on the military over the last century has ensured that you can sit there in front of your computer, use the internet, and bad mouth America.
I’d try to explain this a bit further but you strike me as an arrogant little sod and you likely already know everything.
Please forgive me if I’ve hurt your feelings, undermined your human worth, or have otherwise tortured or scarred you for life.
Cheers,
Chief B.

By: Byron Skinner

Byron Skinner — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:29:11 +0000

Good Evening Folks,
Well it worked (22:46 EST) and the world didn’t come to an end. One aspect of the use of the Standard 3 is that it will soon be able to be fire from U.S. Virginia Class attack submarines. Alreadt successful intercepts have been made from the vertical launch tubes of Sidewinder and Sparrow AA missiles, the Standard is due to be tested this year.
The Ages problem is dealt with by slaving off from sea and land based systems to the underwater launch platform. This will give a new deminision to ABM defense. The surface ships can bee seen but it’s a whole new game with the subs.
I don’t think this is the begaining of nuclear disarmenment but rises the bar for Russia and China. I’ll drink to that.
ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

By: freefallingbomb

freefallingbomb — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:58:45 +0000

To the poster Greg: You said: “For those of you who say if we miss that we are behind china, did you consider that the chinese launched a 3 stage rocket that is designed to lift a payload to space and can’t redibly be erected, while we are launching a missile from a ship which is always ready and easily pre-positioned…
Do you guys get my point?“
1) No, I don’t. The “S.M.-3 Standard Missile” has a ceiling of between 160 kilometers and 240 kilometers, depending on your sources. The Chinese however shot down their own weather satellite at 865 kilometers altitude:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Chinese_anti-satellite_missile_test (third line from above)
Are you sure you aren’t comparing the incomparable?
Plus: Since when does size matter in the Military, except perhaps for Roman catapults? Why on Earth should the Chinese or anyone else build “sea-worthy A.S.A.T. systems”?? Are they out to besiege someone? What truly matters is that the VERY FIRST Chinese A.S.A.T. test in History was successful — let’s see about the next (yes, and nth…) U.S. American test.
And land-based A.S.A.T. and A.B.M. systems, especially when stationed deep inside the Asian land mass, are INFINITELY better protected against any conventional attacks than those U.S. SURFACE (!) vessels, upon whose shoulders part of the U.S. American anti-missile-shield also rests! (But maybe U.S. American destroyers are unsinkable too)
2) “I think the point is more that if you mess with our satellites with your hard to set up rocket which coincidentally would be probably picked up by satellite anyways, we are saying that we can reach out and touch their satellites with no for warning“
a) “Hard to set up rocket”, huh?! I could swear that all the U.S. “Intelligence” agencies including the satellite operators snorted loud and chomped in their sleep while the Chinese successfully destroyed their first satellite! (Do that a lot of times)
b) Count slowly together with me: I think that at the Present it will take the U.S. Americans one… two… THREE (!!!) warships to knock down one dead U.S. American satellite.
c) It seems that the U.S. Americans still belong to the stupid minority of people who really believe that the “Reds” are out there to EAT them… (sigh)
d) Shoot down a Russian or Chinese satellite yourself and be prepared to fend off their entire nuclear arsenal, inside the atmosphere, outside it, above the ground, above the water and below it, and all of it arriving together!
(Hey: Maybe you win!!)