Comments on: FCS (Nearly) on the Ropes…

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By: daskro

daskro — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:43:54 +0000

DA — Don’t count on Obama supporting FCS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0du8wMLzEY

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:17:45 +0000

DA and Cole, Good points and arguments. I still just do not see the Army getting the full 15 brigades, or even half that. With a left wing congress now in power and a maybe left wing president, once they cut in run in Iraq, they will cut the Army’s budget and the overall military budget down dramatically.

By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:39:27 +0000

Cole,
The FCS systems may be lighter weight, but the bulk of the shipment will still come by ship when a war comes up! They will still be entirely to heavy and will require the biggest of our jets to just carry maybe 2 at a time vs 1 with our current heaviest vehicle, the M1A1. Bringing FCS via Air, what a logistics problem! We have light units like the Marines and Army Paratroopers and Light Inf battalions. With the javilon, they still pack a pretty heavy punch even against massed enemy armor.
Changing our forces to a welterweight swiss army knife fighting force seems nice and all, but the advantages of that over the current heavy vehicle seems negligible when the same technologies can be incorporated into them.
The technologies being developed like the JITRS and all that stuff are great, but the entire “light” business and the logistics behind it just doesn’t make a lot of since to me. Don’t get me wrong, the idea is great, but when I look at the current vehicles, like the “tank” replacement (direct fire vehicle), it looks like a ridicules design with a very high profile, not as much armor and so on. I guess my main problem with it is the common vehicle.

By: Cole

Cole — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:27:41 +0000

While we’re at it, here is the dog and pony for the NLOS-Cannon:
http://www.baesystemspresskit.com/nlos_cannon/system_benefits.cfm
Sorry about misspelling “as” Joe.

By: Cole

Cole — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:41:26 +0000

Joe, you will like this ass a former mortarman. Multiple-round simultaneous impact of 6 rounds!
http://www.baesystemspresskit.com/nlosmortar/system_benefits.cfm
Click on the individual captions for more info.

By: Joe

Joe — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:58:15 +0000

Arty might be slow compared to mortars in regard to response time (2 min from call for fire to shot out fmr 11C speaking here) but it has it’s place.
If the marines want their V-22, the airforce its f-22, and the navy it’s cv-21, why not the army?

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:41:38 +0000

I think the PAM system is a really good idea. I bet everyone would agree on that.
The Bradly and Abrams seem to make a kick ass team as is, and it would seem easier to just install the FCS modernizations into the current vehicles. It does make since to have a one vehicle design, but I would rather see something more like what the Israelis have done using their main battle tank as the body for their new infantry vehicle. One of the key ideas with the FCS is being lighter, faster, and more mobile. Well the army already did that with the Stryker systems. They made a common vehicle to provide many different functions that are much lighter then “heavy” vehicles. The whole family of strykers is very similar to the FCS. Just keep those as the FCS, and integrate the new technologies into the existing heavy vehicles. With FCS on the ropes, I bet something similar will happen.