Comments on: Humvee Maker Submits JLTV Design

By: Dennis

Dennis — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:57:35 +0000

Modular is great, until they get the role wrong, and the “light” version starts geting into heavy combat.
In other words, when the inevitable happens.
In “The Long Road Home” this happened in our first conflict in Sadar City.
They saw their role as just keeping the peace (since the Shia were supposed to be happy we were there.…) and roled into the city with people in Humvees with canvas tops and open trucks.….
It did not work out so well.…

By: ADyer

ADyer — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:50:11 +0000

Glad to see another designer using the modular armor concept. It’s really the only way to go. MRAPs and even up-armored hummvees are not practical vehicles in many of the situations light trucks are used. At the same time, situations exist where some light resistance can be expected but moving heavy armor in is impractical.
When the HMMWV was designed I think the assumption was that armor was largely superfluous since it would simply slow the vehicle down or waste resources without having any discernible impact on the effectiveness of enemy fire, presumed at that time to originate from Soviet armored columns or aircraft. Modular armor allows for the humvee’s replacement to be useful in the conventional scenario above, but allows for extra protection in urban combat or insurgency situations.

By: Bill

Bill — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:55:01 +0000

As far as surplus Humvees go, I recall how much I hated them in the Army. Underpowered, they have that GM 6.2 liter diesel which was one of the worst engines ever put out. I drove humvees with that engine, two suburbans, and a couple of trucks. The 4x4 system was good, but a land cruiser has one at least as good and I trust it to keep running.

By: Ed

Ed — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:47:39 +0000

The current HMMWV already has a trailer setup, and many trailer mounted pieces of equipment are compatible with the HMMWV. It makes perfect sense to have the next vehicle have that capability otherwise you would need a separate vehicle just to tow stuff that the HMMWV already can do.

By: James Mason

James Mason — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:35:11 +0000

Stephen: The public can no longer buy Surplus HMMWVs. They must be destroyed before they can be sold publicly, as scrap. The reasoning is that the HMMWV does not meet DOT standards. See here: http://www.drms.dla.mil/pubaff/html/faq_-general.html
and here: http://www.olive-drab.com/od_mvg_auctions_jeephmmwv.php3

By: stephen russell

stephen russell — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:40:40 +0000

Best news yet IF approved: More surplus Humvees for the Public to buy.
OK.

By: jeff

jeff — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:12:24 +0000

Christian,
I thought I read somewhere that the gov’t had listed a request for a trailer to go along with the JLTV. I may be mistaken but I thought the other companies going after JLTV are, or have, made designs for a trailer.
I have seen some of the pictures from AUSA and they have some very interesting designs for this, could be interesting.