Comments on: The F-117 Nighthawk is Gone… We Think!

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By: nic

nic — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:37:08 +0000

please answer back as quick as u can

By: nic

nic — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:35:02 +0000

i was woundering how many f-117’s were made in 2008. i would also like to know how many have been shot down and how much fuel it uses in one flight. i would dearly like to know these answers for a project

By: ELP

ELP — Tue, 13 May 2008 02:05:20 +0000

The USAF historian is wrong. F-117 may be able to do some things in a legacy IADS but not modern ones like what are forming today with S-300 and S-400_like SAM systems being fielded in the coming years.
The F-22 doesn’t just depend on stealth to give it an edge: Super cruise and a higher altitude and passive sensors like the AN/ALR-94 that can geo locate emitters give it a significant edge. SEAD/DEAD of high-end threats will be it’s mission.
No way will the F-117 survive a modern IADS. Lack of useful sensors, subsonic means that in a negative stealth event, it’s all over. Comments by LM after the F-117 shootdown state that even a simple turning maneuver can kill your RCS by a factor of 100 or more. Stealth is useful but it isn’t the be-all, end-all.
Then of course there is the maintenance of the F-117 which sux and of course the near non-existent funding of U.S. stand-off jamming. Hope no one is counting on the slow, pudgy Grower (escort jammer) to save their stealth hide. This includes Growler being fielded with yesterday’s jamming gear. Operation Shoestring.

By: pfcem

pfcem — Sat, 10 May 2008 21:25:35 +0000

HumanPestControl,
You are absolutely wrong about the F-22.
The F-22 more than likely WILL drop bombs (which is very much part of its mission) & shoot down another aircraft.
Deterance IS NOT the F-22’s only purpose. Its purpose is to ensure US air dominace by being able to shoot down other aircraft (& drop bombs) with relative/comparative impunity.

By: elijah

elijah — Sat, 10 May 2008 16:52:54 +0000

methinks that if the raptor would be a lot more readily accepted if it looked more like the nighthawk (or gasp, the most exotic YF-23 was chosen instead). The raptor just looks so…conventional compared to the nighthawk and spirit that people have a hard time matching the cost and what it’s capable of to its appearance.
perhaps the airforce should just go ahead and paint all the raptors black…(that was supposed to be sarcasm, but one second thought, that would look incredibly cool)

By: Camp

Camp — Sat, 10 May 2008 02:15:40 +0000

Regarding the Serbian shoot down of the F-117: I seem to remember discussion at the time of technical assistance being provided by the Chinese. That the Chinese supposedly had some ideas regarding tracking the F-117 with long wave radar and used the conflict to share the ideas with the Serbs.
I also remember shortly after the F-117 was shot down the U.S. “accidentally” bombed the Chinese embassy.

By: ADyer

ADyer — Fri, 09 May 2008 19:07:50 +0000

As I understand it the F-22 requires no modifications to do the F-117’s job. If you think the F-22 is too expensive to do ground attack missions, what the hell did you think of the F-117. I’m betting that when you adjust for inflation, the F-117 turns out to be the more expensive jet.
The only real downside of the F-22 vs the F117 is the inability to mark its own targets for laser guided weapons, but in almost every case passively guided weapons should do the job just fine.