Comments on: The F-117 Nighthawk is Gone… We Think! http://defensetech.org/2008/05/08/the-f-117-nighthawk-is-gone-we-think/ The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:29:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gilbert Woodhttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/08/the-f-117-nighthawk-is-gone-we-think/#comment-228456 Gilbert Wood Tue, 19 Apr 2011 01:01:12 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2832#comment-228456 Please help...I remember seeing a picture of a P-51 on a wet floor with the F-117 reflected in the water upside down. Does anyone remember this picture or am I so old I'm losing my mind. I really need a copy of this picture for a project. If anyone can lead me in the right direction I would sure appreciate it. Please contact me at 55apache@bellsouth.net. Thank you! ADCS Gilbert Wood USN (Ret.) Please help…I remember seeing a picture of a P-51 on a wet floor with the F-117 reflected in the water upside down. Does anyone remember this picture or am I so old I’m losing my mind. I really need a copy of this picture for a project. If anyone can lead me in the right direction I would sure appreciate it. Please contact me at 55apache@bellsouth.net.

Thank you!

ADCS Gilbert Wood USN (Ret.)

]]> By: MAPhttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/08/the-f-117-nighthawk-is-gone-we-think/#comment-214032 MAP Wed, 10 Nov 2010 07:51:53 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2832#comment-214032 Question isn't if the F22 will drop bombs against an enemy position or shoot down enemy aircraft. The question is if the US will attack Iran, North Korea or some other enemy country in the future. If they do, you can be certain that the F22 will be there and will drop bombs for sure. Also will engage any enemy aircraft that takes to the air. We have to hope the US will never have to engage Russia's or China's air force, as it will certainly mean nuclear war as well. Question isn’t if the F22 will drop bombs against an enemy position or shoot down enemy aircraft. The question is if the US will attack Iran, North Korea or some other enemy country in the future. If they do, you can be certain that the F22 will be there and will drop bombs for sure. Also will engage any enemy aircraft that takes to the air. We have to hope the US will never have to engage Russia’s or China’s air force, as it will certainly mean nuclear war as well.

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]]> By: nichttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/08/the-f-117-nighthawk-is-gone-we-think/#comment-39238 nic Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:37:08 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2832#comment-39238 please answer back as quick as u can please answer back as quick as u can

]]> By: nichttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/08/the-f-117-nighthawk-is-gone-we-think/#comment-39237 nic Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:35:02 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2832#comment-39237 i was woundering how many f-117's were made in 2008. i would also like to know how many have been shot down and how much fuel it uses in one flight. i would dearly like to know these answers for a project i was woundering how many f-117’s were made in 2008. i would also like to know how many have been shot down and how much fuel it uses in one flight. i would dearly like to know these answers for a project

]]> By: ELPhttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/08/the-f-117-nighthawk-is-gone-we-think/#comment-179566 ELP Tue, 13 May 2008 02:05:20 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2832#comment-179566 The USAF historian is wrong. F-117 may be able to do some things in a legacy IADS but not modern ones like what are forming today with S-300 and S-400_like SAM systems being fielded in the coming years. The F-22 doesn't just depend on stealth to give it an edge: Super cruise and a higher altitude and passive sensors like the AN/ALR-94 that can geo locate emitters give it a significant edge. SEAD/DEAD of high-end threats will be it's mission. No way will the F-117 survive a modern IADS. Lack of useful sensors, subsonic means that in a negative stealth event, it's all over. Comments by LM after the F-117 shootdown state that even a simple turning maneuver can kill your RCS by a factor of 100 or more. Stealth is useful but it isn't the be-all, end-all. Then of course there is the maintenance of the F-117 which sux and of course the near non-existent funding of U.S. stand-off jamming. Hope no one is counting on the slow, pudgy Grower (escort jammer) to save their stealth hide. This includes Growler being fielded with yesterday's jamming gear. Operation Shoestring. The USAF historian is wrong. F-117 may be able to do some things in a legacy IADS but not modern ones like what are forming today with S-300 and S-400_like SAM systems being fielded in the coming years.
The F-22 doesn’t just depend on stealth to give it an edge: Super cruise and a higher altitude and passive sensors like the AN/ALR-94 that can geo locate emitters give it a significant edge. SEAD/DEAD of high-end threats will be it’s mission.
No way will the F-117 survive a modern IADS. Lack of useful sensors, subsonic means that in a negative stealth event, it’s all over. Comments by LM after the F-117 shootdown state that even a simple turning maneuver can kill your RCS by a factor of 100 or more. Stealth is useful but it isn’t the be-all, end-all.
Then of course there is the maintenance of the F-117 which sux and of course the near non-existent funding of U.S. stand-off jamming. Hope no one is counting on the slow, pudgy Grower (escort jammer) to save their stealth hide. This includes Growler being fielded with yesterday’s jamming gear. Operation Shoestring.

]]> By: pfcemhttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/08/the-f-117-nighthawk-is-gone-we-think/#comment-179565 pfcem Sat, 10 May 2008 21:25:35 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2832#comment-179565 HumanPestControl, You are absolutely wrong about the F-22. The F-22 more than likely WILL drop bombs (which is very much part of its mission) & shoot down another aircraft. Deterance IS NOT the F-22's only purpose. Its purpose is to ensure US air dominace by being able to shoot down other aircraft (& drop bombs) with relative/comparative impunity. HumanPestControl,
You are absolutely wrong about the F-22.
The F-22 more than likely WILL drop bombs (which is very much part of its mission) & shoot down another aircraft.
Deterance IS NOT the F-22’s only purpose. Its purpose is to ensure US air dominace by being able to shoot down other aircraft (& drop bombs) with relative/comparative impunity.

]]> By: elijahhttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/08/the-f-117-nighthawk-is-gone-we-think/#comment-179564 elijah Sat, 10 May 2008 16:52:54 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2832#comment-179564 methinks that if the raptor would be a lot more readily accepted if it looked more like the nighthawk (or gasp, the most exotic YF-23 was chosen instead). The raptor just looks so...conventional compared to the nighthawk and spirit that people have a hard time matching the cost and what it's capable of to its appearance. perhaps the airforce should just go ahead and paint all the raptors black...(that was supposed to be sarcasm, but one second thought, that would look incredibly cool) methinks that if the raptor would be a lot more readily accepted if it looked more like the nighthawk (or gasp, the most exotic YF-23 was chosen instead). The raptor just looks so…conventional compared to the nighthawk and spirit that people have a hard time matching the cost and what it’s capable of to its appearance.
perhaps the airforce should just go ahead and paint all the raptors black…(that was supposed to be sarcasm, but one second thought, that would look incredibly cool)

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