http://defensetech.org/2008/05/14/army-guard-set-to-fly-new-euro-helicopter/ The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security Sat, 26 May 2012 00:48:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://defensetech.org/2008/05/14/army-guard-set-to-fly-new-euro-helicopter/#comment-210251 vaughn nebeker Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:17:14 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2842#comment-210251 8 atmophic seitive chips's plus a mulit relay swich. every time it wich's there a defreant flight alatued a 8 flight pattern of one swich off the auto- pilot. 8 atmophic seitive chips’s plus a mulit relay swich. every time it wich’s there a defreant flight
alatued a 8 flight pattern of one swich off the auto– pilot.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/05/14/army-guard-set-to-fly-new-euro-helicopter/#comment-179896 Wurly Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:16:50 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2842#comment-179896 The UH 72 was bought off the shelf from the EC 145. If an armed configuration was needed, EADS would have called it an EC 645 and added at least one more zero to the price making it custom and no longer off the shelf. At the moment armed configuration is not needed. When we need it our ground crews will rig whatever is needed, come on its not rocket science to add a couple of M240s... The UH 72 was bought off the shelf from the EC 145. If an armed configuration was needed, EADS would have called it an EC 645 and added at least one more zero to the price making it custom and no longer off the shelf. At the moment armed configuration is not needed. When we need it our ground crews will rig whatever is needed, come on its not rocket science to add a couple of M240s…

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/05/14/army-guard-set-to-fly-new-euro-helicopter/#comment-39603 Jeff Thu, 15 May 2008 20:35:02 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2842#comment-39603 wes weseleskey Putting offensive capabilities on every aircraft makes no sense at all. If they put guns on all the LUHs they wouldn't be able to buy as many. When the next natural disaster hits and we have only 75 instead of 125 LUHs to responde you may eat your words. The LUH is not supposed to carry armed troops to combat. It's designed for duty only in the USA or other noncombat areas. It's duties will range from VIP transport to medical evac. This is like a lifeflight meets executive transport helicopter. Not a combat troop trans or gunship. It does not need guns. Allow the Army to use it as it was designed. wes weseleskey
Putting offensive capabilities on every aircraft makes no sense at all. If they put guns on all the LUHs they wouldn’t be able to buy as many. When the next natural disaster hits and we have only 75 instead of 125 LUHs to responde you may eat your words.
The LUH is not supposed to carry armed troops to combat. It’s designed for duty only in the USA or other noncombat areas. It’s duties will range from VIP transport to medical evac. This is like a lifeflight meets executive transport helicopter. Not a combat troop trans or gunship. It does not need guns.
Allow the Army to use it as it was designed.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/05/14/army-guard-set-to-fly-new-euro-helicopter/#comment-179895 wes weseleskey Thu, 15 May 2008 19:51:06 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2842#comment-179895 Folks ~ DoD & our Armed Services will rhue the configuration if they do NOT provide for WEAPONS STATIONS / wiring / space allocation for the Black Boxes of COMBAT. This new Bird will ultimately be required to perform in a HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT. It may be within the Borders of the USA if the Terrorists get a foothold. EVERY military aircraft should have an offensive capability now & in the future! Would somebody please wake-up the PENTAGON ? Folks ~ DoD & our Armed Services will rhue the configuration if they do NOT provide for WEAPONS STATIONS / wiring / space allocation for the Black Boxes of COMBAT. This new Bird will ultimately be required to perform in a HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT. It may be within the Borders of the USA if the Terrorists get a foothold. EVERY military aircraft should have an offensive capability now & in the future! Would somebody please wake-up the PENTAGON ?

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/05/14/army-guard-set-to-fly-new-euro-helicopter/#comment-39601 Jeff Thu, 15 May 2008 17:53:32 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2842#comment-39601 Wild Bill The OH-58D is supposed to get replaced by the ARH eventually but the standard OH-58 utility aircraft will be replaced by more UH-72As and UH-60Ms. Basically the old 58s are being phased out by blackhawks and lakotas for utility while the ARH is supposed to replace the Kiowas. Rumor I've heard is that the ARH will be axed and the OH-58Ds may go through refurb/upgrade. Wild Bill
The OH-58D is supposed to get replaced by the ARH eventually but the standard OH-58 utility aircraft will be replaced by more UH-72As and UH-60Ms. Basically the old 58s are being phased out by blackhawks and lakotas for utility while the ARH is supposed to replace the Kiowas. Rumor I’ve heard is that the ARH will be axed and the OH-58Ds may go through refurb/upgrade.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/05/14/army-guard-set-to-fly-new-euro-helicopter/#comment-39598 Roy Smith Wed, 14 May 2008 21:52:40 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2842#comment-39598 "I mean why even paint them green?" Because conspiracy theorists like me would be very upset if they were painted black(Black Helicopters). “I mean why even paint them green?“
Because conspiracy theorists like me would be very upset if they were painted black(Black Helicopters).

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/05/14/army-guard-set-to-fly-new-euro-helicopter/#comment-179892 WR Wed, 14 May 2008 20:26:20 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2842#comment-179892 MGD, Globalization is indeed a good thing but not when national security is on the line. MGD,
Globalization is indeed a good thing but not when national security is on the line.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/05/14/army-guard-set-to-fly-new-euro-helicopter/#comment-179891 Wild Bill Wed, 14 May 2008 18:28:04 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2842#comment-179891 "For one, the LUH isn't built for a combat environment, so Guard units who deploy to a war zone won't get to take their shiny new helos with them." Well these should have been sold to the UN or Germany if they are not supposed to be used in combat. I mean why even paint them green? So new Guard pilots who get sent to the box will then have to be retrained on the Blackhawk. The OH-58 is quite the little war bird in both Iraq and Afghanistan. So, we are replacing it with a bird that is not meant for combat. Come on something seems wrong with that statement. “For one, the LUH isn’t built for a combat environment, so Guard units who deploy to a war zone won’t get to take their shiny new helos with them.“
Well these should have been sold to the UN or Germany if they are not supposed to be used in combat. I mean why even paint them green? So new Guard pilots who get sent to the box will then have to be retrained on the Blackhawk. The OH-58 is quite the little war bird in both Iraq and Afghanistan. So, we are replacing it with a bird that is not meant for combat. Come on something seems wrong with that statement.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/05/14/army-guard-set-to-fly-new-euro-helicopter/#comment-179890 LighTning Wed, 14 May 2008 17:44:10 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2842#comment-179890 "Just from some info I've heard but, Westwind technologies is not associated with Europter. Although Westwind was listed on some ads and banners they never actually did any work or signed any contracts" Uh? I found these firm in a magazine... but it's not the first time they are wrong... :( You've got right: http://www.uh-72a.com/pro_team/supplier_team.html “Just from some info I’ve heard but, Westwind technologies is not associated with Europter. Although Westwind was listed on some ads and banners they never actually did any work or signed any contracts“
Uh? I found these firm in a magazine… but it’s not the first time they are wrong… :(
You’ve got right:
http://www.uh-72a.com/pro_team/supplier_team.html

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/05/14/army-guard-set-to-fly-new-euro-helicopter/#comment-179889 ohwilleke Wed, 14 May 2008 17:32:58 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2842#comment-179889 If we are going to have both a reserve and a national guard force, their missions and equipment should be distinguished. The National Guard has a very different mission from the active duty military and should have its own procurement hub as a result. The Reserves are appropriate a place for hand me downs, many of which were used while the soldiers in the reserves were on active duty. Likewise, the reserves should be used more readily for foreign missions than the National Guard which also serves important domestic purposes. If we are going to have both a reserve and a national guard force, their missions and equipment should be distinguished.
The National Guard has a very different mission from the active duty military and should have its own procurement hub as a result.
The Reserves are appropriate a place for hand me downs, many of which were used while the soldiers in the reserves were on active duty.
Likewise, the reserves should be used more readily for foreign missions than the National Guard which also serves important domestic purposes.

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