Comments on: Better late than never to the cyber arms race http://defensetech.org/2008/05/15/better-late-than-never-to-the-cyber-arms-race/ The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:06:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Forex Tradehttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/15/better-late-than-never-to-the-cyber-arms-race/#comment-39668 Forex Trade Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:06:19 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2846#comment-39668 you sure got it on this one you sure got it on this one

]]> By: Betsyhttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/15/better-late-than-never-to-the-cyber-arms-race/#comment-179953 Betsy Fri, 16 May 2008 03:21:05 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2846#comment-179953 Hey there Tim, before you spank Kevin you had better check this link out! The Headline is Air Force Looks to Use Military, Civilian PCs For Offensive Botnet http://www.dailytech.com/Air+Force+Looks+to+Use+Military+Civilian+PCs+For+Offensive+Botnet/article11760.htm Lets all work together and beat the bits out of them Hey there Tim, before you spank Kevin you had better check this link out!
The Headline is Air Force Looks to Use Military, Civilian PCs For Offensive Botnet
http://www.dailytech.com/Air+Force+Looks+to+Use+Military+Civilian+PCs+For+Offensive+Botnet/article11760.htm
Lets all work together and beat the bits out of them

]]> By: Brucehttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/15/better-late-than-never-to-the-cyber-arms-race/#comment-179951 Bruce Fri, 16 May 2008 01:48:36 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2846#comment-179951 The numbers seem a little wonky - 100M total bots, and the *second*-largest botnet has 85M bots? Either the numbers are off, or machines get infected into multiple botnets. I could believe the latter, but it would be interesting to see confirmation. The numbers seem a little wonky — 100M total bots, and the *second*-largest botnet has 85M bots? Either the numbers are off, or machines get infected into multiple botnets. I could believe the latter, but it would be interesting to see confirmation.

]]> By: Brianhttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/15/better-late-than-never-to-the-cyber-arms-race/#comment-179950 Brian Fri, 16 May 2008 01:39:03 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2846#comment-179950 Tim & Kevin you are both right. Kevin the point you make is valid. PCs in the US being used in a botnet would slow the Internet for everyone unless the Air Force have their own HUGE pipe through special routing to take the DDoS they launch off our backbone. Tim you are right, Kevin's point I addressed above and his comment about DDoS architectures require assets outside the US to launch DDoS cyber attacks. It is this type of contructive dialog I love on here. IT expands the understanding of the issues. Tim & Kevin you are both right.
Kevin the point you make is valid. PCs in the US being used in a botnet would slow the Internet for everyone unless the Air Force have their own HUGE pipe through special routing to take the DDoS they launch off our backbone. Tim you are right, Kevin’s point I addressed above and his comment about DDoS architectures require assets outside the US to launch DDoS cyber attacks. It is this type of contructive dialog I love on here. IT expands the understanding of the issues.

]]> By: Timhttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/15/better-late-than-never-to-the-cyber-arms-race/#comment-179948 Tim Thu, 15 May 2008 23:40:48 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2846#comment-179948 "The U.S. Air Force announced it plans to construct a large botnet." If your lead sentence is completely wrong, you deserve a serious spanking. The paper in question is a proposal by an Air Force colonel. It is not a "plan", and the U.S. Air Force did not approve it. Kevin Coleman owes the DT readership an apology. Complete misunderstanding of the subject in question is usually handled by AP/Reuters. DT should get out of that business, since they cannot compete. “The U.S. Air Force announced it plans to construct a large botnet.“
If your lead sentence is completely wrong, you deserve a serious spanking.
The paper in question is a proposal by an Air Force colonel. It is not a “plan”, and the U.S. Air Force did not approve it.
Kevin Coleman owes the DT readership an apology. Complete misunderstanding of the subject in question is usually handled by AP/Reuters. DT should get out of that business, since they cannot compete.

]]> By: TrustButVerifyhttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/15/better-late-than-never-to-the-cyber-arms-race/#comment-179947 TrustButVerify Thu, 15 May 2008 21:36:11 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2846#comment-179947 Well, I'm skeptical, but pleased- and I'm also obliged to wipe the egg off my face and have a helping of crow, because I never expected the USAF to do this. Operational botnets generally have the advantage of being spread all over the world, making them hard to stop by blocking off IP ranges. I wonder how the AF plans to emulate this attribute? It's amusing to imagine a cheap apartment in Goa or Minsk with nothing inside but a dozen cast-off desktops being remote-admin'd by the "Cyber Command." Well, I’m skeptical, but pleased– and I’m also obliged to wipe the egg off my face and have a helping of crow, because I never expected the USAF to do this. Operational botnets generally have the advantage of being spread all over the world, making them hard to stop by blocking off IP ranges. I wonder how the AF plans to emulate this attribute? It’s amusing to imagine a cheap apartment in Goa or Minsk with nothing inside but a dozen cast-off desktops being remote-admin’d by the “Cyber Command.”

]]> By: Kevinhttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/15/better-late-than-never-to-the-cyber-arms-race/#comment-39660 Kevin Thu, 15 May 2008 18:59:29 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2846#comment-39660 Another good link http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080515/FOREIGN/586297128/1003 Another good link
http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080515/FOREIGN/586297128/1003

]]> By: cautionhttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/15/better-late-than-never-to-the-cyber-arms-race/#comment-39659 caution Thu, 15 May 2008 18:51:44 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2846#comment-39659 I'm not sure the Air Force has announced it's plan or just LCol Williamson. A brief and interesting response is here. http://tinyurl.com/67vgcw I’m not sure the Air Force has announced it’s plan or just LCol Williamson. A brief and interesting response is here. http://tinyurl.com/67vgcw

]]> By: SpyGuyhttp://defensetech.org/2008/05/15/better-late-than-never-to-the-cyber-arms-race/#comment-39658 SpyGuy Thu, 15 May 2008 15:48:12 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2846#comment-39658 Right to the point and not holding back any punches - that is the Kevin we have all come to admire and respect! Right to the point and not holding back any punches — that is the Kevin we have all come to admire and respect!

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