Comments on: Progress for Future Combat Systems?

By: Cole

Cole — Thu, 15 May 2008 23:45:36 +0000

Roy,
Read the General’s words:
http://www.army.mil/-news/2008/05/14/9146-commentary-army-modernization-necessary-successful-long-overdue/
I personally don’t think the vehicles and network need to be fielded simultaneously. If the network is not ready, field it when it is…in already purchased lightweight deployable, survivable vehicles that have plenty of organic capabilities to detect threats and survive them. Likewise if the vehicles are not ready, delay their fielding until we finish paying for the war. No hurry. No drop dead dates. Plenty of joint potential as discussed in this article posted by DT.
Despite what the GAO and media like to portray, costs are not spiraling out of control in FCS. Cost-control is the number one priority.

By: Cole

Cole — Thu, 15 May 2008 21:19:40 +0000

Roy, think electricity. Current vehicles cannot generate the amount required while hybrid-electric engines can.
But B-Kit Abrams/Bradley/HMMWV can interoperate with FCS manned ground vehicles and spin outs of many FCS systems will be fielded with the current heavy force.
Germany had insufficient time to finish their high tech weapons and were being bombed while they tried. We are not being bombed (nor were we in WWII while we geared up) and have ample time.…with interim spin outs being fielded sooner. The Germans also faced two fronts in close proximity while our two fronts were on opposite sides of the world…and we fought on one front for most of the time. The Germans lacked the logistics to continue,as well.
There was a lot more to it than theorizing that more less capable systems surpasses fewer of highly capable systems.
Now we face future logistics threats where oil will be in short supply and expensive. That sounds to be like we will be REQUIRED to fight with fewer systems than we enjoyed in the past, just to sustain that force with available expensive oil.
Also sounds like a good reason to train more Soldiers and Pilot Airmen using simulation to save oil and wear/tear on our high tech systems. FCS is all about simulation aboard stationary vehicles. Army aviation is equally involved in simulation.
So bottom line is that FCS technologies such as armor going into MRAPs, UAVs, ground robotics,and ISR dissemination can help us fight current wars. They will also help the Army survive against low-tech fighters with lethal systems like IEDs and RPGs, or survive against high tech systems used by future foes. Its win-win, with applicability to ALL conflict and all stability operations.
UAVs can find survivors/victims and communications can assist National Guard aid workers in civil support operations for stateside disasters or the aftermath of terrrorist attack. They can secure our borders. Each FCS manned ground vehicle produces the equivalent of 300 homes worth of electricity. Lessons learned by military hybrid-electrinc power and future fuel cells will also support our nation’s transformation to new fuel technologies.

By: William Ballard

William Ballard — Thu, 15 May 2008 18:27:45 +0000

It sounds good, but do we have the manpower to accommodate a mass production vehicle mindset?

By: Roy Smith

Roy Smith — Thu, 15 May 2008 18:00:12 +0000

The biggest problem with the Future Combat System is its marriage to new combat vehicles that haven't come out yet.Why can't the Future Combat System be married to current weaponry like the Stryker Brigades or the Heavy (Abrams/Bradley) Brigades? That's common sense.That is most likely what killed off both the Commanche & Crusader,& may kill off the Marine's Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle. Why couldn't they have built those weapons based on current technology & then add the whiz bang FCS gadgets to ALL weaponry in our arsenal? So what,they canceled these big ticket items because they couldn't get the cook's PDA to work? Concerning these whiz bang gadgets,someone's full of s**t & they are trying to fill our heads with bull s**t fantasies of SciFi gizmos that may never work in our life time.This is what did in Nazi Germany,they concentrated on a few "high tech" weapons instead of mass producing simple weapons like both the U.S. & the U.S.S.R. did.They couldn't defeat or compete with the mass produced numbers of simple tanks like the Sherman Tank or T-34 Tank.Massed produced propeller aircraft overwhelmed Germany's new jet fighters(& that is why I say the the F-22s are not "miracle workers").