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	<title>Comments on: Russia’s Cyber Forces</title>
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		<title>By: cyberian</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/05/27/russias-cyber-forces/#comment-240549</link>
		<dc:creator>cyberian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>public relations. russia needs no extra military expenditures. ru cybernetwrx is a students&#039; business, sry. call cyberia anywhere in the web.</description>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/05/27/russias-cyber-forces/#comment-180381</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 02:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russia should not be over looked,and if you seriously think that China is becoming a serious threat,you have no idea who we are!!!!  USA
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia should not be over looked,and if you seriously think that China is becoming a serious threat,you have no idea who we are!!!!  USA</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/05/27/russias-cyber-forces/#comment-40139</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all about IRC/disruption and acute knowledge
of political pull-sources etc...They won&#039;t stop unless a certain figure speaks out....But that figure is usually the one in command and control
status etc...Key word:&#039;Acute.&#039;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s all about IRC/disruption and acute knowledge<br />
of political pull-sources etc…They won’t stop unless a certain figure speaks out.…But that figure is usually the one in command and control<br />
status etc…Key word:‘Acute.’</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/05/27/russias-cyber-forces/#comment-40137</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok --- you had to bring up the old &quot;Brain&quot; virus.  Now you have gone and done it - you made me feel old.  I had totally forgotten about that one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok — you had to bring up the old “Brain” virus.  Now you have gone and done it — you made me feel old.  I had totally forgotten about that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Seen the elephant</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/05/27/russias-cyber-forces/#comment-180377</link>
		<dc:creator>Seen the elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent the last six years of my military carrer in Information Operations.  Been to DISA, 1st IO Command, and overseas.  Seen the firewall logs of Federal and State organizations, military and government, where it is amazing from where we are being probed and attacked.  H*ll, I have been around long enough to remember the first BRAIN virus (picked it up from one of my trips to Korea in the 80&#039;s).  The threat to EVERYONE&#039;S networks is real.  We are not spending enough to protect ourselves.  By the way, the Army&#039;s version of Information Operations makes more sense then the other services, including the new Air Force command.  There is more to information warfare than digits and electrons....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent the last six years of my military carrer in Information Operations.  Been to DISA, 1st IO Command, and overseas.  Seen the firewall logs of Federal and State organizations, military and government, where it is amazing from where we are being probed and attacked.  H*ll, I have been around long enough to remember the first BRAIN virus (picked it up from one of my trips to Korea in the 80’s).  The threat to EVERYONE’S networks is real.  We are not spending enough to protect ourselves.  By the way, the Army’s version of Information Operations makes more sense then the other services, including the new Air Force command.  There is more to information warfare than digits and electrons.…</p>
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		<title>By: helovesgold</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/05/27/russias-cyber-forces/#comment-180376</link>
		<dc:creator>helovesgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 12:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what better test bed is there than your client target base ? barrageing radio free europe with software is a test. once there was a story about our x bunkie bin laden wanting to bomb radio free europe instead or before 9/11. a cyber stealth attack might be more survivorable than a gassed up jet smashed into Duetsche Bank H.Q. A West Point motto is &quot; Do not take counsel in your own fears. &quot; Momma said  &quot; brains are better than brawn. &quot; &quot; Be prepared. &quot; DeVry Institute ? &quot; Gawd bless Milky Way ! &quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what better test bed is there than your client target base ? barrageing radio free europe with software is a test. once there was a story about our x bunkie bin laden wanting to bomb radio free europe instead or before 9/11. a cyber stealth attack might be more survivorable than a gassed up jet smashed into Duetsche Bank H.Q. A West Point motto is ” Do not take counsel in your own fears. ” Momma said  ” brains are better than brawn. ” ” Be prepared. ” DeVry Institute ? ” Gawd bless Milky Way ! ”</p>
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		<title>By: pedestrian</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/05/27/russias-cyber-forces/#comment-180375</link>
		<dc:creator>pedestrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 05:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was familiar about the ugly spam bussiness in Russia, and on the otherhand has great software such as the Kaspersky Anti Virus, but never had a clear vision about the Russian cyber warfare team. Interesting report.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was familiar about the ugly spam bussiness in Russia, and on the otherhand has great software such as the Kaspersky Anti Virus, but never had a clear vision about the Russian cyber warfare team. Interesting report.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/05/27/russias-cyber-forces/#comment-40132</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question for b   -   Kevin&#039;s work was referenced by STRATCOM in a Congressional hearing last week.  What have you done and who in that elite group have referenced you?
See Washington Post Article
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/20/AR2008052001372_2.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question for b   —   Kevin’s work was referenced by STRATCOM in a Congressional hearing last week.  What have you done and who in that elite group have referenced you?<br />
See Washington Post Article<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/20/AR2008052001372_2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/20/AR2008052001372_2.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: SpyGuy</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/05/27/russias-cyber-forces/#comment-180373</link>
		<dc:creator>SpyGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B  your cooment are out of place.  Keep in on and intellectual level or don&#039;t bother!  Kevin don&#039;t waist yrou time with &quot;b&quot;  his comments are ot constructiveat ALL.
Forget about &quot;b&quot;   remember never argue with a fool - bystanders can&#039;t tell who is who.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B  your cooment are out of place.  Keep in on and intellectual level or don’t bother!  Kevin don’t waist yrou time with “b”  his comments are ot constructiveat ALL.<br />
Forget about “b”   remember never argue with a fool — bystanders can’t tell who is who.</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/05/27/russias-cyber-forces/#comment-180372</link>
		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we really want to wait till we experience a cyber attack that disrupts the U.S. the same way Estonia was disrupted or worse before we start to plan our defenses? I think not!
No, certainly not. Let&#039;s take care of those Martians. I heard you are an expert of fighting Martians. All power and budgets to you.
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More seriously:
There are some Russian crime groups that do use bot nets.
There some Chinese, German, U.S. based mafia and other crime groups who use the same tools. There are ways to defend against these and any IT manager worth his paygrade knows how to do this.
There is, unlike what you state, no evidence that these bot nets are state founded.
But you build your &quot;threat&quot; on the Russian alleged budget, without ANY source.
Now what is the U.S. budget on cyber attacks?
As you seem to know the Russian one you will certainly know the U.S. one. How about a comparison. May Russia just defends?
Why do you want my taxdollars to be wasted against this threat? Oh, that&#039;s your job?
Fine, but not with me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we really want to wait till we experience a cyber attack that disrupts the U.S. the same way Estonia was disrupted or worse before we start to plan our defenses? I think not!<br />
No, certainly not. Let’s take care of those Martians. I heard you are an expert of fighting Martians. All power and budgets to you.<br />
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More seriously:<br />
There are some Russian crime groups that do use bot nets.<br />
There some Chinese, German, U.S. based mafia and other crime groups who use the same tools. There are ways to defend against these and any IT manager worth his paygrade knows how to do this.<br />
There is, unlike what you state, no evidence that these bot nets are state founded.<br />
But you build your “threat” on the Russian alleged budget, without ANY source.<br />
Now what is the U.S. budget on cyber attacks?<br />
As you seem to know the Russian one you will certainly know the U.S. one. How about a comparison. May Russia just defends?<br />
Why do you want my taxdollars to be wasted against this threat? Oh, that’s your job?<br />
Fine, but not with me.</p>
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