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the problem is pakistan they are helping the taliban while taking billions on military aid from us. we should just cut off aid to the pakistanis.
Blogmaster, the voice just says about 20 times that there are no structures in the area. This emphasizes the point that the people in the video are not guarding a border crossing like Pakistan says they were.
I say we ally ourselves with India and go nuts on these crazies. India has the man power and we have the technology.
Quote {the problem is pakistan they are helping the taliban while taking billions on military aid from us. we should just cut off aid to the pakistanis.}
Then the US would be totally screwed in Afghanistan and will cost them even More then what it’s costing them now!
I think Pakistan should deploy the airforce to this area and anything within 1km of of Afghan side should be carefully watched. Any closer then 500 meters should be Eliminated
This looks like a ploy by Pakistan to get back at the U.S for accussing members of its government for aiding the Taliban. I wouldn’t be supprised if those Pakistani soldiers were killed by Taliban mortor or rocket fire. They’re just blaiming it on the U.S to deflect attention away from pro-extremist elements within their own government.
Pakistani,
NATO isn’t just trying to stop the taliban.. its also trying to build a nation. Throwing 1000’s of land mines along a border causes more problems than it solves.
The US hasn’t been able to pacify Iraq (25 million population) in all these years
There are over 10 million armed pushtuns in Fata alone… Overall Pakistan’s population is 165–170 million.
Do the math
The situation in Afghanistan hasn’t changed in 7 years. You guys could probably stay there for another 5 years, maybe?
While the US is on the other side of the world; these guys live a couple of hours bus ride from us.
Lighting such a fire in your back yard is the most idiotic thing imaginable.
The stupidity of the entire thing is that a policing problem has been allowed to become a never ending armed conflict.
Also, the video keeps saying that no “building or post” was hit. The US Gov’t says that there were 12 bombs dropped. I don’t see a footage of 12 bombs here??? Why don’t they show the video of the bomb that hit the Pakistani post???
Jeff thinks the US should ally itself with India “and go nuts on these crazies” [i.e. Pakistan]. Jeff seems to be forgetting that both India and Pakistan are nuclear powers. The guy who calls himself Pakistani on the other hand thinks the problem is that this incident took place inside Pakistani territory. The real problem for both Afghanistan and the US and coalition in Afghanistan is that Pakistan is providing a sanctuary for cross border incursions by the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. A basic tenet of counter insurgency is to deny your opponents such a sanctuary. In short the situation as it stands is intolerable for the US. The difficulty is that the US has no good options. The US and ISAF forces must find a way to break up these sanctuaries or face an insurgency that will bleed them dry in the long run and sap their political will. Pakistan is a reluctant ally but turning it into an active enemy would be a huge gamble.
To the poster “Pakistani”:
The video function in your link is disabled as well. It seems that that video has been removed everywhere. I don’t know what’s going on. Maybe the U.S. Americans don’t want anyone (who hasn’t downloaded the video already) to see it anymore, afraid of some potential backlash … should have thought earlier of that (me too).
About your statement “Lighting such a fire in your back yard is the most idiotic thing imaginable.”:
I don’t mean to disrespect the few truly patriotic and heroic Muslims fighting in Iraq and in Afghanistan for their countries’ liberations and for minimally legitimate governments too, not for some Fata Morgana governments set up by the same Jews and U.S. Americans who committed 11 / 9 themselves to invade the Middle East. But today, on the 14th of June of 2008, the Nazis have already been occupying Iraq for 1.913 days, and Iraq, with it’s population of 29.267.000 inhabitants, a country the size of France and awash in weapons, explosives and fighting experience from the former fourth biggest Army in the World and fracticide terrorists etc.etc., has only been able to produce an average of 2,1 dead Nazis per day! And it doesn’t even take any fancy Iranian “E.F.P.“‘s or other contrabanded high-tech crap to annihilate THEM ALL . It doesn’t even require any intelligence at all, to be honest! Mathematically it only requires ONE IN EVERY 209 IRAQIS to pick up any old weapon and hit or stab an invader in the face, a single time in all these 5 years, even at the expense of his own life afterwards ( IF it even takes that much… ) ! Is that REALLY asking too much of an entire population of 29.267.000 Iraqis — or even of two, who already lost over a million innocent civilians anyway, and completely in vain? From this angle of view, how do you explain that today there are even any U.S. Americans and “Israelis” still left in the whole Middle East? If you Muslims were made of the same stuff as the proud Vietnamese or even as the Japanese, life would be rosy(ier) for you now!
This isn’t what I call War or even “Resistance”… In my country we call that cowardice, collaboration with the enemy, cringing, eternal shame, prostitution, gayness, etc. .
What next: Seeking good relations with “Israel” too?
I’m SOOO sorry for you…
Salem aleikum.
front line ally in the war on terror is also keeping osama bin laden alive and kicking inside their territory.
Their hope is obama comes to power and withdraws from afghanistan and they then rename the taliban and let it cease power in Afghanistan and use desperately poor afghan jehadis to stir things up in Kashmir.
I say we declare balochistan an independant country that way we deny china a base in the persian gulf(Gawdar) and cut these jokers down to size.
That’s china’s strategy keep a half mad country with nukes in the backyard of both India and Japan(Pakistan & N Korea) so that they cannot form a strong explicit alliance in the US.
Let’s smash Pakistan once and for all and then together deal with the biggest threat to freedom and democracy in the 21st century together:China.
Strong rumors suggests that the Pakistanis have agreed to sell nuclear warheads to the Saudis in exchange for aid and cheap oil.
I mean this is the country which started Iran’s nuclear program by selling them centrifuges and an A bomb design again for money.
I’m italian and i have many difficulties to understand what voice saids… Can help me?PS: But it’s impressive!
Why does the narrator care so much about there being no military structures or outposts in the area?
I thought “raw” footage was generally devoid of watermarks and voice-overs.
the problem is pakistan they are helping the taliban while taking billions on military aid from us. we should just cut off aid to the pakistanis.
Maybe the video was taken from a presentation on how to not cause collateral damage?
good shooting far as i’m concerned.
Blogmaster, the voice just says about 20 times that there are no structures in the area. This emphasizes the point that the people in the video are not guarding a border crossing like Pakistan says they were.
I say we ally ourselves with India and go nuts on these crazies. India has the man power and we have the technology.
Quote {the problem is pakistan they are helping the taliban while taking billions on military aid from us. we should just cut off aid to the pakistanis.}
Then the US would be totally screwed in Afghanistan and will cost them even More then what it’s costing them now!
I think Pakistan should deploy the airforce to this area and anything within 1km of of Afghan side should be carefully watched. Any closer then 500 meters should be Eliminated
This looks like a ploy by Pakistan to get back at the U.S for accussing members of its government for aiding the Taliban. I wouldn’t be supprised if those Pakistani soldiers were killed by Taliban mortor or rocket fire. They’re just blaiming it on the U.S to deflect attention away from pro-extremist elements within their own government.
Pakistani,
NATO isn’t just trying to stop the taliban.. its also trying to build a nation. Throwing 1000’s of land mines along a border causes more problems than it solves.
the video isn’t working (on IE7 or FF).
The US hasn’t been able to pacify Iraq (25 million population) in all these years
There are over 10 million armed pushtuns in Fata alone… Overall Pakistan’s population is 165–170 million.
Do the math
The situation in Afghanistan hasn’t changed in 7 years. You guys could probably stay there for another 5 years, maybe?
While the US is on the other side of the world; these guys live a couple of hours bus ride from us.
Lighting such a fire in your back yard is the most idiotic thing imaginable.
The stupidity of the entire thing is that a policing problem has been allowed to become a never ending armed conflict.
good shooting far as i’m concerned.
Posted by: Jimbo Jones
Agreed, done by the book. USAF put warheads on foreheads.
good shooting far as i’m concerned.
Posted by: Jimbo Jones
Agreed, done by the book. USAF put warheads on foreheads.
Also, the video keeps saying that no “building or post” was hit. The US Gov’t says that there were 12 bombs dropped. I don’t see a footage of 12 bombs here??? Why don’t they show the video of the bomb that hit the Pakistani post???
Jeff thinks the US should ally itself with India “and go nuts on these crazies” [i.e. Pakistan]. Jeff seems to be forgetting that both India and Pakistan are nuclear powers. The guy who calls himself Pakistani on the other hand thinks the problem is that this incident took place inside Pakistani territory. The real problem for both Afghanistan and the US and coalition in Afghanistan is that Pakistan is providing a sanctuary for cross border incursions by the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. A basic tenet of counter insurgency is to deny your opponents such a sanctuary. In short the situation as it stands is intolerable for the US. The difficulty is that the US has no good options. The US and ISAF forces must find a way to break up these sanctuaries or face an insurgency that will bleed them dry in the long run and sap their political will. Pakistan is a reluctant ally but turning it into an active enemy would be a huge gamble.
To the poster “Pakistani”:
The video function in your link is disabled as well. It seems that that video has been removed everywhere. I don’t know what’s going on. Maybe the U.S. Americans don’t want anyone (who hasn’t downloaded the video already) to see it anymore, afraid of some potential backlash … should have thought earlier of that (me too).
About your statement “Lighting such a fire in your back yard is the most idiotic thing imaginable.”:
I don’t mean to disrespect the few truly patriotic and heroic Muslims fighting in Iraq and in Afghanistan for their countries’ liberations and for minimally legitimate governments too, not for some Fata Morgana governments set up by the same Jews and U.S. Americans who committed 11 / 9 themselves to invade the Middle East. But today, on the 14th of June of 2008, the Nazis have already been occupying Iraq for 1.913 days, and Iraq, with it’s population of 29.267.000 inhabitants, a country the size of France and awash in weapons, explosives and fighting experience from the former fourth biggest Army in the World and fracticide terrorists etc.etc., has only been able to produce an average of 2,1 dead Nazis per day! And it doesn’t even take any fancy Iranian “E.F.P.“‘s or other contrabanded high-tech crap to annihilate THEM ALL . It doesn’t even require any intelligence at all, to be honest! Mathematically it only requires ONE IN EVERY 209 IRAQIS to pick up any old weapon and hit or stab an invader in the face, a single time in all these 5 years, even at the expense of his own life afterwards ( IF it even takes that much… ) ! Is that REALLY asking too much of an entire population of 29.267.000 Iraqis — or even of two, who already lost over a million innocent civilians anyway, and completely in vain? From this angle of view, how do you explain that today there are even any U.S. Americans and “Israelis” still left in the whole Middle East? If you Muslims were made of the same stuff as the proud Vietnamese or even as the Japanese, life would be rosy(ier) for you now!
This isn’t what I call War or even “Resistance”… In my country we call that cowardice, collaboration with the enemy, cringing, eternal shame, prostitution, gayness, etc. .
What next: Seeking good relations with “Israel” too?
I’m SOOO sorry for you…
Salem aleikum.
front line ally in the war on terror is also keeping osama bin laden alive and kicking inside their territory.
Their hope is obama comes to power and withdraws from afghanistan and they then rename the taliban and let it cease power in Afghanistan and use desperately poor afghan jehadis to stir things up in Kashmir.
I say we declare balochistan an independant country that way we deny china a base in the persian gulf(Gawdar) and cut these jokers down to size.
That’s china’s strategy keep a half mad country with nukes in the backyard of both India and Japan(Pakistan & N Korea) so that they cannot form a strong explicit alliance in the US.
Let’s smash Pakistan once and for all and then together deal with the biggest threat to freedom and democracy in the 21st century together:China.
Strong rumors suggests that the Pakistanis have agreed to sell nuclear warheads to the Saudis in exchange for aid and cheap oil.
I mean this is the country which started Iran’s nuclear program by selling them centrifuges and an A bomb design again for money.
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