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Home » The Tanker Tango » Top OSD Officials Think Tanker Deal Can Go Ahead

Top OSD Officials Think Tanker Deal Can Go Ahead

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Senior Pentagon and Air Force offi­cials who have read the full 67-​​page report about the tanker bid by the Government Accountability Office think they can still grant a con­tract before the end of the Bush Administration. John Young, the Pentagons acqui­si­tion czar, has report­edly drafted a let­ter for the four con­gres­sional com­mit­tees that over­see defense spend­ing and pol­icy inform­ing them of the Pentagons deci­sion to go ahead and award the con­tract to Northrop Grumman.

There have been reports that the GAO rul­ing on the tanker con­tract could add two years or more to the con­tract award, some­thing that has greatly con­cerned Air Force lead­ers eager to start build­ing new tankers after almost a decade of trying.

“Their find­ing is that the full doc­u­ment is quite dif­fer­ent from the sum­mary,” issued last Wednesday, said a source famil­iar with the issue. The source said Air Force lead­ers believe much of what was chal­lenged is pro­ce­dural and can be resolved with­out rebid­ding the deal.

The 69-​​page report is expected to become pub­lic today.

The GAO said in its sum­mary that it found a num­ber of sig­nif­i­cant errors that could have affected the out­come of what was a close com­pe­ti­tion between Boeing and Northrop Grumman and rec­om­mended that the bid be reopened. By law, the Air Force has 60 days to inform the GAO of how it will respond to the recommendations.

Any Air Force deci­sion to press ahead with the con­tract award to Northrop Grumman is likely to spark out­rage on Capitol Hill among sup­port­ers of Boeing, who include Rep. Norm Dicks (D-​​Wash.), the Nr. 2 mem­ber of the House Appropriations defense sub­com­mit­tee, as well as Washingtons two sen­a­tors and law­mak­ers from Kansas.

Read the rest of this story over at Military.com’s new online defense and acqui­si­tion jour­nal, DoD Buzz.

– Colin Clark

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  1. irtusk says:
    June 25, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    > John Young, the Pentagon

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  2. Nancy says:
    June 25, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Yes, they will have no choice but to rec­om­pete the contract…over, and over, and over again until Boeing “wins”.

    Reply
  3. Nancy says:
    June 25, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Yes, they will have no choice but to rec­om­pete the contract…over, and over, and over again until Boeing “wins”.

    Reply
  4. sandra goode says:
    June 25, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    shame on the incom­pe­tents from the Air Force. time for Sue Payton to be fired with great fan­fare.
    just a few pro­ce­dural gigs, eh? like dot­ting i’s and cross­ing t’s. hey, that’s the tax­pay­ers’ money and the warfight­ers’ sacred need.
    all the screw ups, down to what­ever GS level involved, plus the usual sus­pects of FFRDCs and sup­port con­trac­tors involved in this deba­cle need to be canned, and canned in style.

    Reply
  5. pfcem says:
    June 25, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    I fear we are head­ing towards a split buy. There is sim­ply too much sup­port & oppo­si­tion for both offers & nei­ther side is likely to relent. The USAF screwed up its 1st attempt to reca­pit­u­late its tanker fleet by try­ing to rush the process. It screwed up its 2nd attempt to reca­pit­u­late its tanker fleet by mak­ing “a num­ber of sig­nif­i­cant errors that could have affected the out­come”. In defense of the USAF in BOTH cased the USAF was not who­ley at fault or with­out rea­son for its fault. In its 1st attempt by rush­ing the process so it skipped steps which left it open to much crit­i­cism even­tu­ally lead­ing to the very pub­lic expo­sure of scan­dalous activ­ity which is far more com­mon than most want to admit. In its 2nd attempt by doing so much to ensure that both com­peti­tors stayed in the com­pe­ti­tion SO THAT THERE WOULD BE A DEMANDED COMPETITION made a num­ber of sig­nif­i­cant errors that flawed the process & affected the out­come.
    Senior Pentagon and Air Force offi­cials think they can ignore the GOA’s rec­om­men­da­tion to “reopen dis­cus­sions with the offer­ors, obtain revised pro­pos­als, re-​​evaluate the revised pro­pos­als, and make a new source selec­tion deci­sion, con­sis­tent with the GAO

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  6. irtusk says:
    June 25, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    > its 1st attempt to reca­pit­u­late its tanker fleet
    recap­i­tal­ize
    >In order to do that they MUST (what ever they do) AT LEAST address the 7 spe­cific rea­sons (not to men­tion the addi­tional ones indi­cat­eded in the full report) the GOA sited TO THE GOA’s sat­is­fac­tion.
    no, they can just give the GOA the fin­ger and say “this is our selec­tion and we’re stick­ing by it neener neener neener”, which is appar­ently (if this report is to be believed) what they’re doing
    of course the polit­i­cal real­ity is that that’s going to be a tough sell to congress

    Reply
  7. Rix says:
    June 25, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Last week I was look­ing at a beau­ti­ful antique auto on dis­play in a museum. It was a ’56 Fairlane. Then I thought “Holy crap, the air force flies planes that rolled off the assem­bly line at the same time as this car.” I hope what­ever the AF does, they do it soon.

    Reply
  8. pfcem says:
    June 26, 2008 at 12:54 am

    irtusk,
    No they can not. Not unless they can come up with the $35++ bil­lion dol­lars (come on we ALL know KC-​​X like most all recent defense pro­grams is going to end up sig­nif­i­cantly over bud­get) out of their own per­sonal bank accounts. Funding for the KC-​​X will not get through either the Legislative (Congress) or Executive (President) at this point UNLESS the GOA signs off on it.

    Reply
  9. Mad says:
    June 26, 2008 at 6:56 am

    This is totally point­less, what are the chances after all this ridicu­lous inter­fer­ence that N-​​G will win this con­tract again? Should’ve just saved every­one the time and effort and given it to boe­ing with­out going for the re-​​bid. What a bunch of cor­rupt idiots.

    Reply
  10. Bill says:
    June 26, 2008 at 8:44 am

    What’s inter­est­ing is how hard it is to get any facts on this story. What EXACTLY is Boeing’s com­plaint, except they didn’t win? What are the spe­cific errors, biases, etc. in the con­tract pro­ce­dures? As an ex Boeing employee (it’s required to live in Seattle), I root for Boeing, but emo­tions aside, I have no idea what the actual facts of the mat­ter are and ProPublica has not illu­mi­nated the matter.

    Reply
  11. pfcem says:
    June 26, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    irtusk,
    It is not flaws in either of the offer but flaws in the PROCESS with which the USAF (or more cor­rectly the KC-​​X source selec­tion eval­u­a­tion team — it really is unfair to blame the ENTIRE USAF) used in its selec­tion. It is disin­gen­u­ous to fault/​critisize Boeing for protest­ing when any­one who has fol­lowed the process much knew full well there was going to be a protest no mat­ter which offer was cho­sen — that only SUPPORTS the fact that the process was wrong.
    Right now all the points are anti-​​KC-​​X source selec­tion eval­u­a­tion team & how their errors flawed the selec­tion towards the NG/​EADS offer. Unfortunately in that it has now been made pub­lic that (under the rules of the process) the NG/​EADS offer DID NOT meet all require­ments (or there is not suf­fi­cient evi­dence to estab­lish that it did not not) & DID NOT “beat” the Boeing offer in a num­ber of cri­te­ria as had been announced.

    Reply
  12. Paul says:
    June 26, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    If NG didn not meet the require­ments set in the Request for Proposal then they are in defaut with a “No Bid” and their pro­posal should be rejected as per the regulations.

    Reply
  13. pfcem says:
    June 26, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    Bill,
    Boeing’s EXACT com­plaints are spelled out in its protest.

    Reply
  14. irtusk says:
    June 26, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    > It is not flaws in either of the offer but flaws in the PROCESS
    but so far only flaws in the PROCESS that favor one par­tic­u­lar team are being exam­ined
    do you truly believe that there were ZERO flaws in the process that favored Boeing?
    > Unfortunately
    my what big croc­o­dile tears you have ::rolleyes::
    > in that it has now been made pub­lic that (under the rules of the process) the NG/​EADS offer DID NOT meet all require­ments (or there is not suf­fi­cient evi­dence to estab­lish that it did not not) & DID NOT “beat” the Boeing offer in a num­ber of cri­te­ria as had been announced.
    and my point was that it’s likely the Boeing bid ALSO didn’t meet all the cri­te­ria, it sim­ply hasn’t been sub­jected to the same scrutiny … yet

    Reply
  15. irtusk says:
    June 26, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    as pre­dicted, push­ing through was a non-​​starter
    http://​www​.dod​buzz​.com/​2​0​0​8​/​0​6​/​2​5​/​a​f​-​c​h​i​e​f​-​n​o​m​i​n​a​t​i​o​n​-​c​o​u​l​d​-​b​e​-​a​t​-​r​i​sk/
    “However, the lat­est we are hear­ing is that OSD offi­cials, who thought as last as 6 p.m. last night that the tanker deal could go ahead with­out being rebid are now look­ing at some sort of fly-​​off as a compromise.”

    Reply
  16. pfcem says:
    June 27, 2008 at 1:49 am

    irtusk,
    Yes it is only flaws in the PROCESS that favor one par­tic­u­lar team that are being exam­ined BUT my point was that it was flaws were in the PROCESS, not flaws in the offers as you had stated.
    If you think there were flaws in the process that favored Boeing have fun find­ing them. I am sure that if Boeing had won NG/​EADs could have found some­thing but the ques­tion then becomes if what they found would have been sufi­cient for the GOA to rec­om­mend that the USAF “reopen dis­cus­sions with the offer­ors, obtain revised pro­pos­als, re-​​evaluate the revised pro­pos­als, and make a new source selec­tion deci­sion, con­sis­tent with the GAO

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