Comments on: Cyber War 2.0 — Russia v. Georgia

By: Psypher69

Psypher69 — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:36:36 +0000

Most members of the Anglo-American alliance have made their positions on an Eastern resurgence perfectly clear, and France has been pretty busy in its efforts to increase its global influence via the Georgian situation.
However, one is forced to wonder (considering the stake it has in this unfolding geopolitical drama), why has Germany been so damn quiet???

By: James

James — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:00:57 +0000

I find it a bit strange to try to have a realistic discussion of this topic without any technical info. In the case of how effective is a cyberwar campaign, you should look no further than the Israeli raid on the Syrian reactor earlier this year. Their infiltration and subsequent crippling of not only Syrian air defense systems, but of Lebanese, and proxy Iranian (ie Russian) defenses left them defenseless for weeks! So far reaching was the destruction of the air control, the even the Lebanese civilain airports were down, thus jeopardizing hundreds of non-combatant lives. Add to this the fact that China has completely reverse engineered ALL Cisco firewalls and you have the possibility of absolutey crippling command and control of ANY country in the world. Is the US safe? No way, not until way we share our technical information with the world.

By: Roy Smith

Roy Smith — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:06:38 +0000

I book I read earlier discussed how china would use information warfare against Taiwan. A lot that was mentioned when beyond the internet hacking.
How easy would it be to “hack into” a TV broadcast with a computer generated image of the president(like this book described could happen with Taiwan) announcing that his or her country was surrendering to which ever opposing force was attacking or invading them? Denial of service is just annoying when it comes to the internet,real PsyOps would include messing with our minds using radio & TV & images of famous people or our nation’s leaders telling us to give up(the b.s. on TV about Iraq & the War On Terror is one thing) after we had been attacked by a foreign power & possible invasion(examples being China trying to invade Guam &/or Russia trying to “retake” Alaska,both highly unlikely scenarios,but if they did happen,both China & Russia would try to have broadcast over TV & radio a “doctored” image of the president declaring surrender).
Also,could the enemy try to infiltrate the military network to issue “false orders” or give images of the enemy being where they weren’t in order to cause the military to lose confidence in its chain of command?

By: stephen russell

stephen russell — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:36:36 +0000

This war shows the Full effect for Future wars:
Cyberassults
Troops massing X border
air strikes
Very dangerous.
Can our US systems be so secure
I wonder?
Maybe relocate Georgia Republic systems to US for testing & R&D.
Must do or lose next war.

By: stephen russell

stephen russell — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:36:10 +0000

By: Insaint

Insaint — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:38:02 +0000

============================================== No,the web host is saying "(404) Unfortunately, we couldn't find that file." You have to explain cyber terror in a way that people understand. If "Busty Beauties" is down because of a DOS,that really hits home for [come on,admit it] a lot of us. That also goes for a lot of web sites where people get their news. ============================================== A "real" life threat it is, too. It might even make you get out of the chair and even worse go outside and see people face to face. The bad thing about internet is it is full of teenagers and adolescent 40 somethings, that have the sole purpose in life (for the lack of life) to "hack", "pirate" and "toilet joke edit" wikis. Those who work in the field know what I am talking about. The internet is already so much "buggy" and disinformation poluted, that we don't need a war to see that kind of impact. I still think that cyber warfare is a waste of time, ridiculous, impractical and used as a scarecrow to get bigger budget. It's impact is neither that catastrophic nor it could be prolonged enough to be realy damaging. There are strategies to dfend against DoS attacks, and almost anything else is easily fixed with backups. A succesfull cyber attack means only that money was saved at the expense of even basic security tools and probably the "experts" involved were no experts at all.

By: Roy Smith

Roy Smith — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:15:35 +0000

Camp
No,the web host is saying “(404) Unfortunately, we couldn’t find that file.” You have to explain cyber terror in a way that people understand. If “Busty Beauties” is down because of a DOS,that really hits home for [come on,admit it] a lot of us.
That also goes for a lot of web sites where people get their news.
Cyber terror is not so much about shutting down electrical plants & other utilities as it is about shutting down the free flow of ideas(no matter how wacky) or news.
If Georgia was depending on the web for news,I guess they were in a blackout when Russia attacked.There are other ways of getting news,like reading a newspaper or listening to a radio,like Shortwave or CB,but wasn’t the internet supposed to be easier to find information? With the internet shut down,it’s like being stuck on an escalator,& we all know how lazy people are to move when an escalator’s stuck.

By: Camp

Camp — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:03:45 +0000

Roy,
If you’re getting an “error”, “each time [you] try to get it up.” Then maybe you should have a doctor look at it… just a thought

By: Roy Smith

Roy Smith — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:17:02 +0000

You know,I think that my favorite website “Celebrity Female Navels” was a victim of a cyber attack,because each time I try to get it up,the page keeps saying “error.” God,this is very demoralizing.
DAMN YOU CYBER TERRORISTS!!!!

By: Jack

Jack — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:39:58 +0000

Russian need to drop EMP bomb over Tbilisi…