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Home » Planes, Copters, Blimps » Who Cares? Iran says warplanes capable of reaching Israel

Who Cares? Iran says warplanes capable of reaching Israel

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It’s cookie cut­ter Iranian blus­ter, of course. Though some Iranian fight­ers do have the legs for such an oper­a­tion, they’d have to drop most of their arma­ment and load up on fuel to make the trip.
And that’s assum­ing that Iranian war­planes had a straight shot into Israel. The minute the Mullahs sor­tie a strike pack­age large enough to field against the razor sharp Israeli Air Force, the even sharper USAF and US Navy would make short work of it. That type of chest-​​thumping from Iran is the stuff that makes fighter jocks like Ward and Pinch drool.
“Target rich envi­ron­ment?” Yeah, you betcha.
–John Noonan

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  1. Sam I am says:
    August 18, 2008 at 2:26 am

    Perhaps Iran only has need for one plane, car­ry­ing one bomb, mak­ing a one-​​way trip.

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  2. El Cid says:
    August 18, 2008 at 5:03 am

    Maybe Iran could ship the fight­ers in, piece by piece, via FedEx. That would count as “reach­ing” Israel, right?

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  3. Jimbo Jones says:
    August 18, 2008 at 8:29 am

    Where are the cries of ‘war mon­ger­ing’ and ‘how dare they threaten another coun­try’ etc etc, oh wait that only applies to the west, namely UK and USA and Israel.

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  4. coolhand77 says:
    August 18, 2008 at 9:05 am

    Iran only has to get it right once and Israel is torched. Israel has to be right all the time to stop them. Kinda like “Missle Command” when you have one tar­get city left and mul­ti­ple incoming…

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  5. Ptsfp says:
    August 18, 2008 at 9:32 am

    Iran has thumbed their nose at the inter­na­tional com­mu­nity for years. They have vowed to “wipe” Israel off the map.
    They are not sup­posed to be mak­ing Nukes, but they are, with Russian assis­tance, sur­prise sur­prise…
    When they do get a nuke, they will use it. It is the creed of the mil­i­tant Islamists. Convert to Islam or be destroyed. In some twisted way they think they are doing God’s work.
    Anyways, I do not think they will attempt to attack Israel by air. I think they will strap nukes to Donkeys and try and slip them across the bor­der… Donkey-​​born nukes!

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  6. Roy Smith says:
    August 18, 2008 at 9:49 am

    Tiny lit­tle Lebanese Hezbollah & Palestinian Hamas have also threat­ened to wipe Israel off the map,& Israel blow them out of exis­tence any time she wanted to. Iran by her self is no seri­ous threat to any­one. This is all just a ploy to keep oil prices up. This is like the 80’s & 90’s when Libya was built up to be a major world threat(her army is quite small & rag­tag).
    The Iranians are just a bunch of “inbred” moun­tain men(like in the movie “Deliverance”) who we are tak­ing far more seri­ously than they deserve. Attacking them is like attack­ing & bomb­ing the “Hatfields & McCoys.”

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  7. Roy Smith says:
    August 18, 2008 at 10:06 am

    Forget Iran,the real threat to Israel comes from Russia. Forgetting Russia’s blus­ter­ing about attack­ing the Ukraine & Poland,Russia assured her­self a clear path to the mid­dle east by tak­ing out Georgia. Armenia is already a loyal ally of Russia & Russia could pass her armies through Georgia(Russia only needs to con­trol half of Georgia,like she is doing now) & into “friendly” Armenia. It doesn’t mat­ter how “run-​​down” Russia’s armies are if her oppo­nents’ armies are in worse shape than she is.
    Russia could then marry her forces up with Iran & then the seri­ous threat to Israel begins.
    The key nation to watch is Turkey. If Turkey’s “Islamic” President & Prime Minister can run the “sec­u­lar­ists” out of power & out of the Turkish army,then they most likely will join forces with Russia & Turkey,& then Russia has all of Turkey to maneu­ver through,in addi­tion to the Georgian-​​Armenian path estab­lished.
    As “insane” as all of this sounds,just keep a sharp eye on Turkey & the bat­tle for power between the sec­u­lar & Islamic parties.If the “Muslims” win out,then Turkey is out of NATO & our air bases closed,& Turkey is out of con­tention for join­ing the European Union.
    Iran by her­self is noth­ing & absolutely no threat whatsoever.

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  8. Cole says:
    August 18, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    Roy,
    Think Iranian Revolutionary Guard…the cra­zies in charge of speed boats around the Straits of Hormuz and more frightening…the ones respon­si­ble for Iranian Missiles. So while Ahmadinejad may make threat­en­ing noises to dis­tract his peo­ple from the lousy econ­omy, it is the IRG you gotta worry about launch­ing or infil­trat­ing nukes…just as they launched human wave attacks against Iraq near Basra.
    Folks with that kind of men­tal­ity don’t adhere to west­ern con­cepts of Mutually Assured Destruction. They seem per­fectly will­ing to become mar­tyrs if they can simul­ta­ne­ously wipe out much of Israel.
    As for smug­gling arms to Hezbollah in Lebanon…where do you think all those rock­ets came from used against Israel in 2006? We had con­trol of Iraq then yet they still got smug­gled into Lebanon, pre­sum­ably through Syria or in civil cargo ships.
    The one we should most worry about is the IRG smug­gling a small nuke into the U.S. that they set of in the nation’s cap­i­tal or NYC. If you watched Hannity’s America last night, he had an expert who showed how even a small 1 kilo­ton weapon would dev­as­tate Washington D.C result­ing in 100,000 dead and per­haps twice as many in NYC.

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  9. T-800 says:
    August 18, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    sti@@y pron­a­ganda

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  10. Joe Cottone sr says:
    August 18, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    Why are peo­ple assum­ing that only a Russian or Iranian strike is pos­si­ble. Why not using one as a decoy or feint while the other hits. Remember the cra­zies in Iran do have the Shabah 3 which I read has a 1200–1500 mile range, why wouldn’t they use it as a feint while the other hits from even further.Or visa versa. Remember a good decoy is as good as an attack from/​to another direc­tion. Aren’t the Russians in bed with the cra­zies in Iran, why would they not use any decep­tion at their dis­posal.
    As American forces are in Iraq,(the mid­dle of it all), wouldn’t any aggres­sor know that those forces would inter­cept & destroy any attack thereby mak­ing an attack on American forces pre-​​emmenant, there­fore any attack by any­one from any­where should be con­sid­ered an attack on American forces. Otherwise their attack would not & could not succeed

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  11. Mike says:
    August 18, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    Nice post Ptsfp. Israel will never fall again.

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  12. 22lr says:
    August 18, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    Im not con­cerned at all. Israel is able to pull their own pants on, and if the six days war is a good indi­ca­tor they can beat the pants aff of a much larger air­force and still be home in time for din­ner. Honestly, Iran vs. Israel, israel would blow them out of the sky.

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  13. Roy Smith says:
    August 18, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Musharraf resigned from being Pakistan’s president.Now we’ll see where Pakistan really stands in all of this.
    Joe Cottone sr,
    Iran’s feint could very well be to attack Basra,Iraq,while Russia & Turkey at the same time could attack Israel.

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  14. Ptsfp says:
    August 18, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    LogicalTom,
    lol, yeah, I see it like a scene from Shrek. Just pic­ture Mahmoud on the back of a Nuke tipped don­key rac­ing into Israel…
    “I am a dic­ta­tor on the Edge! I’ve got a loaded don­key and I’m not affraid to use it!“
    Well, it prob­a­bly would be as effec­tive as their air force… Lol…

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  15. Roy Smith says:
    August 18, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    Cole,
    “The prophe­cies in Ezekiel 38 and 39 indi­cate that God will put a hook in the jaw of Russia and bring her down against the land of Israel in the lat­ter years.“
    The idea of Russia attack­ing Israel defies com­mon sense & con­ven­tional wisdom,but Russia WILL attack Israel.
    Meanwhile,China will use North Korea to threaten South Korea,Japan,& pretty much the rest of the north­ern hemisphere(including North America & Europe) with ICBM tech­nol­ogy that China AND Pakistan gave her(China most likely gave her the mis­siles too,since China has the tech­nol­ogy to send astro­nauts & satel­lites into space). Plausible deni­a­bil­ity will be on the part of China,because she can just say that North Korea is a rene­gade “loose can­non.” You said that,“Rockets and mis­siles are the poor country’s solu­tion to being hop­lessly out­matched in air supremacy due to stealth tech­nol­ogy.” If North Korea is proved to have mis­siles that can reach the tar­gets I mentioned,she had to of received the help & tech­nol­ogy from some­one far more advanced than she is(& that is China with the assis­tance of Pakistan). The same goes for Iran & the “help” she received. China is slyly using prox­ies to fight her wars for her,& when the world is busy fight­ing her proxies,she can then attack & invade Taiwan with­out inter­fer­ence from the U.S. or any­one else.

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  16. Roy Smith says:
    August 18, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    Jeff M,
    It is very plau­si­ble for Libya & the Sudan to lead a coali­tion of “rag­tag” African countries(especially the African nations like Zimbabwe & Angola who are receiv­ing aid & arms from China,just like the Sudan is doing).
    it is very plau­si­ble for Israel to defeat & dec­i­mate Hezbollah(Lebanon),Hamas(& the rest of Palestine),Syria(with the nuk­ing of Damascus,also pre­dicted in the bible),Jordan,& Egypt in what appears to the world(& Russia,Turkey,Iran,Libya,the Sudan,& their “coali­tion” allies) to be a Pyrric vic­tory where Israel is also dec­i­mated.
    Things are hap­pen­ing that do line up with bib­li­cal proph­esy made well over 2000 years or more ago(a lot of the proph­e­sies are “Old Testament” proph­e­sies made over 3000 years ago).
    We can argue over where these ideas came from,BUT.….Russia is threat­en­ing her neighbors,Turkey could very well drive out here “sec­u­lar­ist lead­ers” & replace them with islamic ones,Iran has become a threat to her neigh­bors,& Libya & the Sudan are rearm­ing for a fight with someone.

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  17. j.delabar says:
    August 18, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    lets get our own house in order… and stop doing things half­heart­edly, and let us not for­get those who have gone before us, and remember/​ask our­selves is a life with­out free­dom really any life at all.…and most of all to those who are bound by their word to serve our coun­try thank you, it is never easy being a soldier,sailor or marine. But you have my deep­est gratitude,let us not waste our great­est trea­sures by using them whim­si­cally.. as for me i will be walk­ing to work…and buy­ing amer­i­can, sup­port­ing our farm­ers
    help­ing my neigh­bors.… let those with the oil try eat­ing it for break­fast lunch and din­ner… AND MAY GOD HELP US ALL!

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  18. Bambooviper says:
    August 18, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Myself,I look a lot deeper to see the right and wrong, and I don’t like what I see. Just research it all and see how you feel. Just a word to the wise.

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  19. Bambooviper says:
    August 18, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Myself,I look a lot deeper to see the right and wrong, and I don’t like what I see. Just research it all and see how you feel. Just a word to the wise.

    Reply
  20. soss says:
    August 19, 2008 at 12:41 am

    Maybe some right!flv con­verter for mac­mac mp4 converter

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  21. Captain Zen says:
    August 19, 2008 at 7:35 am

    US sol­diers give their blood for oil, and that is a fact. The Zionist Neocon strug­gle for dom­i­nance of the Middle Eastern resources has gone on too long. Become self suf­fi­cient in energy and be done with the dev­as­tat­ing ter­ror­iz­ing of other coun­tries and peo­ples who hap­pen to have the things the US has not.

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  22. Phillip Tourney says:
    August 19, 2008 at 8:04 am

    Yea lets keep on figt­ing for the Zionets and see what good it dose for America.
    Israel is a state of there own let them fight wars on there own. No more money no more wepons for Israel time to cut this spoiled step child losse se yea woundn’t want to be yea.
    They are cold blooded mur­ders the Israelis look what the did to our ship the USS Liberty June 8 1967 the mur­der­ing bas­tards.
    Phil Tourney Survivor

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  23. Stitch says:
    August 19, 2008 at 8:52 am

    When did the US start think­ing that we should patrol the world? Its time we take care of our own and lit the rest of the world do the same. They should take on their own bat­tles. We are not the worlds keeper.

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  24. Habu says:
    August 19, 2008 at 8:53 am

    Phil Turdy and Capt Zen plus a few oth­ers are clearly full of shit.

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  25. Habu says:
    August 19, 2008 at 9:05 am

    .and Roy Smith..geez …the real threat comes from Russia. Well now there’s a real bit of strate­gic think­ing. Who the hell do you think is behind 90% of the aggres­sion world­wide? Who do you think wants to *uck up the West?
    It takes no crit­i­cal obser­va­tion to under­stand a few crit­i­cal items.
    – the Cold War never ended
    – Russia is always going to push the West
    – the KGB guys didn’t all become fish­ing guides after the CW. They want to be a player again.
    I’ve fought in Angola, Rhodesia, was involved in Chile, the ’73 Yom Kippur War as well as in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos. The Soviets were always there too.

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  26. Habu says:
    August 19, 2008 at 9:12 am

    Stitch,
    .…and who would you like to patrol the world? You think the bad guys are just gonna go away?
    Tony Blair said it in his address to the Joint Session of Congress. Because at this time and this place in world his­tory we are the only ones who can do it…
    So Stitch unless you want to watch the Soviets and soon China con­troll the sealanes and the flow of oil and other vital raw mate­ri­als then you’d best flush out your head­gear. If it’s too big a job for you just head to Canada.

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  27. Habu says:
    August 19, 2008 at 9:58 am

    Capt Zen
    So what do you think Americans should give their lives for? Come on give me five things.
    Freedom? How much free­dom would we have if our ene­mies who would destroy us have if we had no oil, or say only one third of what we have today, and they con­trolled the rest? If they con­trolled the worlds sealanes and space? What were you a com­mis­sary per­son? Personnel? I tell ya one thing you never had to do any strate­gic think­ing.
    Come on give me the list of five and jus­tify it.
    Oh, we should just stay home and be iso­la­tion­ist right? Sure the bad guys will leave us alone. The Islams will stop bomb­ings world­wide and the sun will shine every day.
    Where do you live? Must be on Big Rock Candy Mountain.

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  28. Habu says:
    August 19, 2008 at 10:10 am

    “I am not try­ing to be a smart ass,but why is Iran a threat?“
    Roy, you suc­ceeded. I’m totally con­vince you’re not a smart ass.
    If you have to use that open­ing sen­tence and ask why Iran is a threat you’re in deep do-​​do and they’re aren’t enough words in Christendom to explain it to you.

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  29. Habu says:
    August 19, 2008 at 10:13 am

    Capt Zen
    Whats with the cheesy ring you’re hawk­ing using this sight for free adver­tis­ing. What’s with that?

    Reply
  30. Viperdoc says:
    August 19, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Interesting read. Indeed the old Testament does pre­dict the dis­truc­tion of the Kings of the North, East, and South. Exactly who those kings and what cen­tury is still baf­fling Biblical schol­ars. Ezekiel in the old tes­ta­ment bears the most infor­ma­tion about the Armagedon taken for the Valley of Gaden in which God strikes down the Armies of the North, South and East. Incidentlly, the King of the West shall be lead to runa­tion because of her apa­thy to the plight of his cho­sen peo­ple (Isreal). Somewhere in this melie, the Anti-​​Christ is to rise to power for 7 years. Turken indead does turn against Isreal in the final days too.
    Are we see­ing the com­ing of the end? Time will tell but for me I’m keep­ing my bags packed and main­tain­ing my faith in Jesus Christ.
    An aging Warrior but still serv­ing,
    Doc

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  31. yaw says:
    August 19, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    iran dare not attack israel cos israel is so pow­er­ful and will wipe it of the world map.the United States is just great,GOD BLESS AMERICA.YAW

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  32. Vitor says:
    August 19, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    Ok, now peo­ple here are using the old tes­ta­ment prophe­cies to pre­dict out­come of wars…I mean, cant peo­ple talk about Israel in a ratio­nal way with­out going bat-​​shit crazy?

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  33. Brian says:
    August 19, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Let’s look at some basic facts to keep all of this in the proper per­spec­tive.
    1) There is no replace­ment for oil that is as eco­nom­i­cally effi­cient as oil. We can go to solar and nuclear power and have cars that are pro­pelled by rain­bow sun­shine, and the tech­nol­ogy will work, but we’ll be pay­ing two and three times what we would pay for oil. This sim­ple real­ity affects how we must act in global pol­i­tics.
    2) We ben­e­fit tremen­dously by being the world’s police­man. As much as it costs, and as busy as we stay with wor­ry­ing over the actions of other coun­tries, we gain enough to make it worth­while. It is bet­ter to be Rome than to be the bar­bar­ian tribes.
    3) These lit­tle buttcrack coun­tries are dan­ger­ous only in the sense of a hornet’s nest. Iran will not destroy the US. Neither will Al Quaeda or Pakistan. If it comes down to all-​​out war, they can­not hope to stand against us. The US will be vic­to­ri­ous. However, we don’t par­tic­u­larly want to get stung by the hor­net if it can be avoided.
    4) Russia isn’t our friend. They never have been. Whatever glim­mer of hope they had back with Yeltsin is long gone. They’re going to stay in Georgia as long as they feel like it, push­ing around the lit­tle kid to show how tough they are to the other kids in the Eastern European play­ground. We need to estab­lish bases in those coun­tries as quickly as is fea­si­ble to pre­vent them from doing this again and again and again.

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  34. Brian says:
    August 19, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    5) Old Testament prophe­cies need to stay where they are — in the Old Testament. There is absolutely ZERO rea­son to believe that an ancient prophecy is about to come to pass RIGHT NOW. The prophe­cies of that age were mis­in­ter­preted by pretty much every sin­gle per­son in the Bible. They are NEVER easy to see or inter­pret. I think the chances of angels break­ing open seven seals and unleash­ing plagues upon the land in the near future are some­what less than the chances that they DON’T break open seven seals and unleash plagues.

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  35. Roy Smith says:
    August 19, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    Brian,
    Come on,we could have just as eas­ily quoted Nostradamus(who peo­ple seem to take seri­ously & quote a lot) as far as “proph­esy” goes. Look how many peo­ple are tak­ing seri­ously the Mayan cal­en­der that the world will end in 2012.HG Wells pre­dicted that World War III will begin in Basra,Iraq.
    People have researched what mod­ern nations are today in the areas of the peo­ple who occu­pied the same space dur­ing Old Testament times.
    If the U.S. in the future was to dis­ap­pear & another nation take its place,we could today only describe that future nation by land­marks we recog­nise today​.As far as pre­dic­tions go,the bible has been pretty spot on.
    By the way,isn’t Meshech the Hebrew(which Israel cur­rently speaks) name for Moscow?

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  36. Sam says:
    August 19, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    I am not a big fan of Iran but they def­i­nitely should have launched a pre­emp­tive strike on Israel by now.

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  37. Brian says:
    August 20, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Yeah, the peo­ple who pay atten­tion to Nostradamus and the Mayan cal­en­dar are nuts too.
    The Bible is only accu­rate when you look at it through the lens of his­tory. We can look back and say “oh, see, here this prophecy from 1500 BC fits with what hap­pened here in 500 BC.” The Bible is not accu­rate when peo­ple have tried to use it to pre­dict the future. People who lived at the time of Jesus inter­preted his prophe­cies to mean that the sec­ond com­ing would hap­pen in just a few years. People in the mid­dle ages thought the end of the world was approach­ing. In the 1800s there were peo­ple who believed they were liv­ing in the end times. In the 1960s and 1970s, peo­ple thought Yuri Gellar was the Antichrist. All of these peo­ple thought they had found scrip­tures that sup­ported their beliefs. Well…
    SPOILERS
    Jesus did not return in 40 AD. The world didn’t end in the mid­dle ages. Martin Luther wasn’t the Antichrist. The Rapture didn’t take place in the 1800s.

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  38. LogicalTom says:
    August 20, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    Brian -> “The Rapture didn’t take place in the 1800s.“
    Or did it?
    Dun dun dunnnnn.

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  39. Cranky Observer says:
    August 20, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    > 2) We ben­e­fit tremen­dously by being the
    > world’s police­man. As much as it costs,
    > and as busy as we stay with wor­ry­ing over
    > the actions of other coun­tries, we gain
    > enough to make it worth­while. It is
    > bet­ter to be Rome than to be the bar­bar­ian
    > tribes.
    Of course, we have handed our Constitutional souls over to the devil but hey:, omelettes, eggs, small price to pay, that sort of thing. The Founding Fathers would have under­stood per­fectly I am sure.
    Cranky

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  40. mickel says:
    October 4, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    Boyes​.it is a shame what u are say​ing​.so .we are the most rich in world,the money we spend­ing in war enugh to inssure our life,oil in mid­del east.or mus­lim coun­tries is thers,and even we need it,we must buy it,same we sale every thing to them,what u expect of them,just wait our demans to delaver it?funny brain u have.we have milletary,but is it enugh to make them ser­round all they have to us.
    in USA u can kill any one just for transpass ur proparaties.but u blqame them to refeuse gav­ing us what lit­tel they have?and„look far­ther ur feets..our lead­ers are just buissnes men,do u thi­ink the gave a dam for u?
    hwo many amaricans,have health inssurance?the bil­lyons we waste in war till now enugh even to secure us from any,
    boy..grewup.or.go find a chick.

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  41. cole says:
    October 4, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    hey​.am jwiesh ‚i will fight for us.„but.never go to live in israel.and talk­ing that islam is the only enemy we have is non­thes,
    remem­ber our his­tory and u know that…
    «romans are 1st kills us,
    our his­tory show that we had good treat­ments from mus​lims​.in spain„sypruse,jurasalem.in time chris­tians whom blam­ing us of jes­sus chrosefictine,kill us for this„who holo­cost us,who killed 15000 jweish in spain.who close eyes of what happ­n­ing to us in europe.?
    Mr..bush,Blear,and all those asshols,shouting ‚declear­ing war on muslims.they work with mus­lims money.Ben laden group lended Bush J. com­pany 200 mil­lion 15 years ago​.do u think he may sucrefey this for us or for any.????????
    palas​te​ni​ans​.is there land too as we,why they canot have thier stat,we have peace with egypt so we can have it with oth­ers.
    now us,europ with us,but as it is hap­pend befor 1940th,this can change.,why..moneyyyyyy.

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  42. behzad says:
    April 19, 2009 at 2:50 am

    hi,
    it is inter­st­ing for me to know how much you are wrong , i do not know why, i think you know enough about Kamikazis(japanese pilots in 2th w. war),if you waana know about Iranian pilots you should con­cider them more than 10 times capa­ble than Kamikazis, and some time they are crazy and you should .….….….….….……

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