Comments on: War and Peace — Russian Style

By: Rain Man

Rain Man — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:23:49 +0000

I’d like to toss my 2 cents on this issue for just one reason. I’m a south american from Brasil watching left wingers control many presidencies and governments all over the place, our president founding an organization pro URSS — south american version. It’s going on just now. Leftist agenda always will be about domination, centralism, and death. Lets not forguet their inspiring leaders (Stalin, Lenin, Mao Ts

By: Eugene

Eugene — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:51:43 +0000

Hello,
Being Russian just couldn’t miss out the opportunity to comment on this. First of all, let me assure you, that I believe the war is dirty business and no way I support the fueling of war and just hope it will be finally muted down and no more fighting erupts.
Abkhazia and Osettiya separatism has its long roots even from the Soviet times and before that and both were made into Georgian SSR (sub-state inside USSR) at Stalin’s time. Stalin, being Georgian, was very fond of bringing new territories into his homeland republic. Georgians were very happy to dominate over the two and there were tensions between them even in Soviet times. Can you imagine what it meant in Soviet times to have tensions between regions? It meant they were desperate.
Now getting back to the latest events, I do think it was very clear that these two provinces do not want to be inside Georgia. Hell, just basically like Georgia didn’t want to be part of USSR at the Soviet collapse.
Georgia tried to ‘pacify’ both provinces with force in post-Soviet time and failed. Russia certainly didn’t want another war to boil on its southern border and having seen that Georgia is going to try forceful resolution once again has stated just number of times that we will not let this happen. Not because of any territorial interest (we have plenty of land, you know), but because war always bring in terrorists of all sort and this is not what we would like to see on Caucasus.
However, Georgia played its move, and my country has shown that it is going to defend its interests even with force if necessary. All in all, USA is doing it quite fine in Kosovo and Iraq, and this is just the statement that if US thinks it’s ok to do it, then we think the same — we will ALSO defend our interests with force. Or USA denies us the right it has for itself?
Well, this is it. I know there are accusations that ‘Russians were prepared’. Huh, and you thought our intel sucks? Obviously Russia knew that Georgia is gathering forces and prepared.
Regards,
euge.

By: Hmm

Hmm — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:05:21 +0000

Theyv got our pasports.
2000 people dead. See these Russian burning tanks. everybody knows that when a tank colony is shelled few dozen civlian will die caus tanks will seek shelter in grovds and use human shield. But cause 2000 died it means they hit A LOT of other civilian pasports.
Those poor old women with blood whiped out all over their face SAID that they supported Russian and as you saw their houses were full of holes and partially collapsed. Try to see now –we got attacked. — No you didnt EVER get attacked hahaha. DAMN

By: antherion

antherion — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:12:46 +0000

“taking control after inflicting heavy civilian casualties — some press reports cited approximately 2,000 deaths.“
After this, I begin to wander at this website objectivity. Turning things upsidedown (better call it outrageous lie)is an example of Western values? Georgia has shelled S.Ossetia for about two day, by the time Russian troops arrived S. Ossetia capital was not far from Stalingrad. And by that time there already were that many casualties. Russia came in to protect Ossetians, ever thought about asking civillians Ossetians about this. Are U so dumb to think that Ossetians would ask Russia to protect it further after it “inflicting heavy civilian casualties”. If you consider yourself a normal person, make a correction, otherwise go to hell all of you.

By: AMSSFO

AMSSFO — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:22:54 +0000

Duncan Kinder, you’re just too good. I admit, arming , even founding Al-Qaida was a master stroke of genius by the US COIN community. It sure gave the USSR a bloody nose. Now, taking lessons from H’zballato do the same again would be another awe-inspiring action. (But then again…)
Jimbo Jones, thanks for the IMINT link. For the rest, it’s all business as usual, innit?

By: bleh2

bleh2 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:52:02 +0000

“And don’t insult our intelligence by saying you meant that people with Russian issued passports were “Russian”. Russia did that on purpose to manufacture its claim to the area. Those people are not really Russian. It is a fraud.“
It’s not. Every citizen of the former Soviet Union is entitled to a Russian passport. It’s natural that a lot of South Ossetians would get themselves one in case Georgia comes knocking (which they did).
Similarily there’s quite a lot of “Germans” in Israel because every descendant of victims of the 3rd Reich (i.e. half of Israel) can get a German passport and whenever the Mideast conflict turns hot a lot of them do just as a fallback option.

By: Ptsfp

Ptsfp — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:14:09 +0000

You hear about Russia stealing the windows from the military base in Senaki?
That is pretty sad. Maybe they saw “Made in the USA” on the window panes or something. Maybe the Russian military thinks that windows have a definite strategic importance on a military base, so they had to remove them.
Maybe the Russians thought if they stole the windows, the Georgians wouldn’t be able to see them coming if they attack again… lol..

By: Jimbo Jones

Jimbo Jones — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:25:41 +0000

@ Duncan Kinder,
yeah i’d say theres masses of scope for unconventional warfare by Georgian troops. As long as they stay legal: as in wearing uniforms, only targeting military etc etc i’d be more then happy to see them use mines, EFP roadside devices, sniping etc. Who gives a sht if we (NATO) supply them, Russian weapons are always somehow finding there way into the forces we oppose so its fair game. Those shitty Russian troops would be easy pickings for a determined well armed force as long as the attackers shoot and scoot pretty damn quick .

By: Jimbo Jones

Jimbo Jones — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:18:24 +0000

“Oh and here’s a good roundup of some of the bull:
http://geimint.blogspot.com/2008/08/russia-georgia-disinformation.htmlPosted by: Johnny the Bull at August 20, 2008 03:16 AM“
Yeah good if your a Russian propaganda officer, the guy knows his mil stuff but is a clear Russia apolagist and fanboy, notice how he forgot to mention any Russian propaganda/bullshit such as the 2000 deaths that turned out to be 46 deaths according to HRW.

By: Sgt JFK

Sgt JFK — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:35:25 +0000

Oh, and give us our damn Humvees back! they aren’t trophies.