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Home » Catch the "Buzz" » NRO (not NSA) On the Chopping Block

NRO (not NSA) On the Chopping Block

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For decades its name could not be spo­ken out­side of a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility or men­tioned to some­one with­out at least TS/​SCI clearance.

It built won­drous satel­lites that did things like detect­ing mis­sile launches from space that no one had believed pos­si­ble until the National Reconnaissance Office did them.

But a string of fail­ures, goofs and bud­get busters, com­bined with the increas­ing impor­tance of intel­li­gence gath­ered by air breath­ing assets such as Predator and Global Hawk drones, has led a pres­ti­gious com­mis­sion of space experts to rec­om­mend that the NRO be merged with Space and Missile Systems Command to cre­ate some­thing called the National Security Space Organization.

The rec­om­men­da­tion is made by some­thing called the Allard Commission, which was cre­ated by Congress last year. It is led by the national secu­rity space guru Tom Young, a for­mer Lockheed Martine exec­u­tive and the man who always seems to get the call to fig­ure out how to fix space when things go wrong. Young has kept his pan­els rec­om­men­da­tions under wraps but word began leak­ing out last week.

The plan would also lead to strip­ping the Air Force of its exec­u­tive agent for space the per­son who serves the Office of Secretary of Defense as the lead on unclas­si­fied space acqui­si­tions and trans­fer­ring it to the new author­ity. This office will also have bud­get author­ity for all space programs.

This would include a com­bi­na­tion of the NRO and SMC and other ele­ments of Air Force Space Command to cre­ate a sin­gle National Security Space Command.

A vet­eran space intel­li­gence expert, Bob Butterworth, rejected the Allard Commissions pro­pos­als, espe­cially its efforts to inte­grate so-​​called black (NRO) and white (mil­i­tary) space. The effort to inte­grate is just mis­con­ceived, he said. People who even started out doing black-​​white inte­gra­tion mostly gave up after going through the first space based radar expe­ri­ence. Space Radar was an idea gen­er­ated from the top of the Donald Rumsfeld Pentagon. It was sup­posed to pro­vide the US with both mov­ing tar­get indi­ca­tion the abil­ity to track trucks and tanks and highly refined strate­gic radar imagery of use to the intel­li­gence com­mu­nity. The idea has foundered on the rocks of wildly dif­fer­ing require­ments and enor­mous cost.

Integration expo­nents also argue that the space indus­trial base is largely shared between the two com­mu­ni­ties. Thus, inte­grat­ing pro­grams could save money and lessen the strain on the lim­ited pool of engi­neers and other spe­cial­ists needed to build satel­lites and their sensors.

That has not been doc­u­mented. It is just hand wav­ing as far as I can tell, Butterworth said.

For those watch these things closely, the Allard Commissions use of the NSSO name has caused con­sid­er­able con­fu­sion in the rumor mill. Was the com­mis­sion rec­om­mend­ing dis­so­lu­tion of the NSSO, an office with­out bud­getary author­ity that advises the Pentagons exec­u­tive agent for space? No. It was sug­gest­ing cre­ation of an entirely new organization.

Part of the NROs prob­lem is that under cur­rent law no one really knows includ­ing con­gres­sional aides who help write the laws decid­ing this who is in charge of clas­si­fied acqui­si­tion pro­grams. This raises the ques­tion, who is in charge, and that is unan­swer­able, said a con­gres­sional aide. For back­ground on some of this, see last weeks story on the BASIC program.

Does this mean the NRO will van­ish? The name may change, the orga­ni­za­tion may be rebuilt but the func­tions wont dis­ap­pear. More on this tomorrow.

– Colin Clark

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  1. princeton scotch says:
    August 27, 2008 at 8:01 am

    If you want to go black, please feel free. The rest of us like know­ing state secrets :d

    Reply
  2. Gray Rinehart says:
    August 27, 2008 at 9:06 am

    I’m glad to see some­one else is dis­cussing this; I posted about it on my blog and the Space Warfare Forum I mod­er­ate, but have only got­ten e-​​mail replies so far.
    Princeton Scotch wrote, “If unmanned air­craft can do the same thing less expen­sively with far greater per­sis­tence over tar­gets, it seems the only place satel­lites help is over threat air­space in peace­time.“
    They don’t do the same thing, but that’s a com­mon mis­con­cep­tion. It’s the dif­fer­ence between recon­nais­sance and sur­veil­lance — per­sis­tence over the tar­get pro­vides the lat­ter, the abil­ity to go beyond the range of other means pro­vides the for­mer. Putting the two together is pos­si­ble, but it doesn’t opti­mize either one.

    Reply
  3. Gray Rinehart says:
    August 27, 2008 at 9:08 am

    In the post below, I mis­tak­enly attrib­uted Cole’s state­ment to Princeton Scotch. My apologies.

    Reply
  4. Cole says:
    August 27, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    Understand what you guys are say­ing. I had also read the U-​​2 arti­cle ear­lier which cued and reminded me that a stealthy UAS could han­dle most of the jobs cur­rently han­dled by more costly satel­lites. Googling: “unmanned air­craft ver­sus satel­lites” pro­duces some inter­est­ing ideas for alter­na­tives that are appar­ently already being con­sid­ered by DARPA.
    I can envi­sion a B-​​2 or 2018 unmanned B-​​3 deliv­er­ing per­sis­tent smaller UAS over a broad range of tar­get areas fly­ing well above 65,000′. Some might be stealthy smaller UAS. Others could be non-​​stealthy endurance UAS when the threat nation lacks air defenses capa­ble of engag­ing the UAS. These UAS could carry either sensor-​​only or light­weight glid­ing muni­tion pay­loads, or a com­bi­na­tion of both. The capa­bil­ity of the unmanned B-​​3 to refuel, rearm, and recover the smaller stealthy or endurance UAS could also be con­sid­ered.
    Believe in com­ing decades of high fuel-​​expense and require­ments for stealth, the future USAF must get by with fewer multi-​​purpose air­craft. A CSAR-​​X must do more than com­bat air­crew per­son­nel recov­ery. A KC-​​X must do much more than aer­ial refu­el­ing. A B-​​3 bomber should take the B-​​2 cue and be few in num­ber but with expanded capa­bil­i­ties. Perhaps even the F-​​22 could drop the same stealthy UAS with per­sis­tent and/​or lethal capa­bil­ity. A rocket should also be able to deliver the same stealthy UAS for short notice mis­sions.
    Enough Buck Rogers, but seri­ously, can’t imag­ine that a stealth satel­lite would ever be less expen­sive than a stealth UAS…or as versatile.

    Reply
  5. Bryan Price says:
    August 27, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    And they shall call this new space agency Stargate Command.
    Sorry.

    Reply
  6. Joe says:
    August 27, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    In addi­tion to less counter attack threats, aren’t space based assets much less likely to be com­pro­mised, in terms of the tech­nol­ogy falling (not intended as a pun) into the wrong hands.
    Other than the increased loi­ter time of newer air­craft, and the lack of a human inside, why are UAVs bet­ter than manned AVs.
    When we started going to space, we already had the U2, right? So what were the rea­sons we went to space in the first place, and how are they less rel­e­vant now than they were 40 years ago? It’s gotta be more than the threat to the pilot’s life.

    Reply
  7. Cole says:
    August 27, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    Joe, I hear you, but there prob­a­bly are few pilots (B-​​2) will­ing to sit in a manned air­craft for 24 hours at time. The dirty, dull, and dan­ger­ous have always been pri­mary UAS mis­sions. Gary Powers found out the dan­ger­ous part with respect to U-​​2s. We cer­tainly had the SR-​​71 for years and sus­pect it flew over the USSR at times which I believe prompted cre­ation of the Mig-​​25. Today, it would be dif­fi­cult for a non-​​stealth any­thing to fly over Russia or China whether manned or unmanned.
    But recall that we were fix­ated on the nuclear threat back then. Missiles and bombers ruled the roost and the rhetoric if tough now, was noth­ing com­pared to back then. Don’t believe any nuclear-​​equipped power today believes it would use nukes on a similary-​​equipped nation…except per­haps Iran on Israel (sui­ci­dal). With that in mind, couldn’t we get by with fewer satel­lites now for Russia and China, using high-​​altitude UAS for every­thing else?
    Believe there will be cuts in com­ing year bud­gets, and ISR satel­lites seem like areas where big bucks could be saved. Don’t think satel­lites will win the war on ter­ror, and they cer­tainly didn’t stop the Russians from invad­ing Georgia.

    Reply
  8. stephen russell says:
    August 27, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Cut the over­head alone & merge these.
    Save time & money.
    Viable.
    More fund­ing for troops or other projects.
    Naval Laser weapons & JSF & new SFCOM assult rifles & more forces for Afganistan.
    CUT the DC bureau­cracy alone.

    Reply
  9. Noncom says:
    August 28, 2008 at 3:53 am

    The solu­tion:
    (1) Give up on the mono­lithic, do-​​everything satel­lites with their extreme devel­op­ment risk and and loss risk
    (2) Let the R&D guys and engi­neers build and launch far more application-​​specific sats based on a com­mon plat­form. The risk is low­ered, fail­ures are less expen­sive, and the engi­neers get to build their skill sets and tal­ent pool thanks to many more sat iter­a­tions.
    (3) Reduce the inter­nal polit­i­cal and man­age­ment empires with their suf­fo­cat­ing risk-​​aversion that go along with the mega-​​sat projects.
    (4) Take some risks, give the teams some breath­ing space and let them run with their ideas and vision.

    Reply
  10. Brian says:
    August 28, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Cole, while I agree that the ten­sions and rhetoric have less­ened con­sid­er­ably since the height of the Cold War, the range of “accept­able” actions by nations has decreased. It is polit­i­cally unac­cept­able to send U-​​2s over Russia and China.
    If we stealth them up, there is always the dan­ger that another nation will believe its some­thing worse than a spy­plane. We don’t want some­one to mis­take a stealthy Global Hawk for a B-​​2. The con­se­quences of THAT would be too great.

    Reply
  11. Daniel says:
    September 3, 2008 at 6:52 am

    There are dis­tinct advan­tages to either types of plat­forms, Cole, whether atmos­pheric based or space-​​based. There are also dis­tinct dis­ad­van­tages.
    Take care — and I leave you with a thought. Is it ‘out of sight, out of mind’, or, ‘out of mind, out of sight’?

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