http://defensetech.org/2008/09/04/liquid-cooled-underwear-and-other-micro-climates/ The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security Fri, 25 May 2012 22:50:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://defensetech.org/2008/09/04/liquid-cooled-underwear-and-other-micro-climates/#comment-184564 Jeff Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:10:42 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4054#comment-184564 I am the Business Development Mgr responsible for the cooling unit and I appreciate all the feedback you guys have. Atkin - the Army is addressing the LQDC seal issue by procuring a new LQDC from a different vendor. Charlie Seto - the reason there is one box per crew member is redundancy. If one big unit fails EVERYONE loses cooling. Also, its much harder to find aplace to stick 1 big box as opposed to having options with multiples. Robert - the tankers are using these now. The USMC fielded the first group in April 2008. Army is now in process of fielding on Abrams & Bradley. The system has been on Stryker since '06. Jeff Ehret jeff.ehret@cobham.com I am the Business Development Mgr responsible for the cooling unit and I appreciate all the feedback you guys have.
Atkin — the Army is addressing the LQDC seal issue by procuring a new LQDC from a different vendor.
Charlie Seto — the reason there is one box per crew member is redundancy. If one big unit fails EVERYONE loses cooling. Also, its much harder to find aplace to stick 1 big box as opposed to having options with multiples.
Robert — the tankers are using these now. The USMC fielded the first group in April 2008. Army is now in process of fielding on Abrams & Bradley. The system has been on Stryker since ’06.
Jeff Ehret
jeff.ehret@cobham.com

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/09/04/liquid-cooled-underwear-and-other-micro-climates/#comment-75843 delphi Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:18:50 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4054#comment-75843 Project Horizon has done in depth research on this a put up a full write up on their Tactical Warfighter page: http://www.tacticalwarfightergear.com/tacticalgear/catalog/Army_Technology.php Project Horizon has done in depth research on this a put up a full write up on their Tactical Warfighter page:
http://www.tacticalwarfightergear.com/tacticalgear/catalog/Army_Technology.php

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/09/04/liquid-cooled-underwear-and-other-micro-climates/#comment-75842 Mary K. Brand-Njoku Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:12:55 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4054#comment-75842 Would it be possible to have a sample of these te3xtiles or a garment I teach a textiles course at Los Angeles Trade Technical College and am always looking for examples to show my students Thabks Would it be possible to have a sample of these te3xtiles or a garment I teach a textiles course at Los Angeles Trade Technical College and am always looking for examples to show my students
Thabks

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/09/04/liquid-cooled-underwear-and-other-micro-climates/#comment-184563 Atkin Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:39:28 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4054#comment-184563 I work ALSE. Yes I have an MCG (Micro-ClimateCooling-Garment) sitting three feet from me right now. They are great for the pilots. Great for non-medevac crew that do not have to go in an out of the bird. For those that do, problems tend to arise with broken seals to the connection points and seals and when you leak the fluid, it tends to only work in spurts after that. Leak enough, and it's just another vest under all your other gear. They need more work at the L-QD end. (Liquid-Quick-Disconnect)... It gets cold. Yes, one person did have to be treated for cold weather injuries wearing it. It goes right agianst the skin. You can wear a cotton T under it if you wish. You do have to keep on the aircrews to service the vests. They hold liquid within them not only in the MCU cooling unit on the bird. So if someone doesn't use one for a couple weeks and forgets to change the liquid, well mold can grow in the most interesting of environments... I heartily endorse this sucker for the heat. I work ALSE. Yes I have an MCG (Micro-ClimateCooling-Garment) sitting three feet from me right now.
They are great for the pilots. Great for non-medevac crew that do not have to go in an out of the bird. For those that do, problems tend to arise with broken seals to the connection points and seals and when you leak the fluid, it tends to only work in spurts after that. Leak enough, and it’s just another vest under all your other gear. They need more work at the L-QD end. (Liquid-Quick-Disconnect)…
It gets cold. Yes, one person did have to be treated for cold weather injuries wearing it. It goes right agianst the skin. You can wear a cotton T under it if you wish.
You do have to keep on the aircrews to service the vests. They hold liquid within them not only in the MCU cooling unit on the bird. So if someone doesn’t use one for a couple weeks and forgets to change the liquid, well mold can grow in the most interesting of environments…
I heartily endorse this sucker for the heat.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/09/04/liquid-cooled-underwear-and-other-micro-climates/#comment-184562 Todd D Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:48:34 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4054#comment-184562 you guys who say that you shouldn't put cold water on a hot person, well, i'm thinking that the micro climate was made to keep them from getting hot in the first place so...yeah you guys who say that you shouldn’t put cold water on a hot person, well, i’m thinking that the micro climate was made to keep them from getting hot in the first place so…yeah

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/09/04/liquid-cooled-underwear-and-other-micro-climates/#comment-75838 Aussie ArmchairGeneral Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:04:35 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4054#comment-75838 The Australian designed Bushmaster Infantry Mobility Vehicle has air conditioning and may be having cooled drinking water installed in improved versions. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmaster_IMV. The comment about cold water making you sick doesn't apply in this situation: the idea is to keep the soldiers cool so they don't get heat stroke etc. The Australian designed Bushmaster Infantry Mobility Vehicle has air conditioning and may be having cooled drinking water installed in improved versions. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmaster_IMV. The comment about cold water making you sick doesn’t apply in this situation: the idea is to keep the soldiers cool so they don’t get heat stroke etc.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/09/04/liquid-cooled-underwear-and-other-micro-climates/#comment-75837 cabgx2 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:13:47 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4054#comment-75837 COOL!!! COOL!!!

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/09/04/liquid-cooled-underwear-and-other-micro-climates/#comment-184560 Robert Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:53:56 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4054#comment-184560 They should give these to tankers I spent 14 years riding in tanks and let me tell you gets very hot in that steel box. They could hook those up to the NBC overprotection system and stay cool. They should give these to tankers I spent 14 years riding in tanks and let me tell you gets very hot in that steel box. They could hook those up to the NBC overprotection system and stay cool.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/09/04/liquid-cooled-underwear-and-other-micro-climates/#comment-184559 coolhand77 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:35:41 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4054#comment-184559 cold water would make them sick. You NEVER give an over heated person COLD water. You always give them cool or warm water, never cold. Check your first aid literature if you disagree. cold water would make them sick. You NEVER give an over heated person COLD water. You always give them cool or warm water, never cold. Check your first aid literature if you disagree.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2008/09/04/liquid-cooled-underwear-and-other-micro-climates/#comment-184558 JEFF Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:21:55 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4054#comment-184558 mulehead, the vests being used in humvees came from a request per the soldiers that have been to iraq and afghanistan. I am aware that the Army is currently using these units to cool the crews of the Strykers so I don't see how it'd be that difficult to put some in other vehicles. Yes the hummvees may be a little short on space but it's replacement should have these integrated in. I know I normally wouldn't think of a personal climate vest as being necessary but when these guys are stuck baking in the vehicles in the deserts were temps are well over 100 while still having to strap on their 30+ pounds of body armor, I have no problem spending a few tax dollars to keep them cool. It's better spent on the troops than the welfare sucking leeches that contribute nothing to our country. mulehead, the vests being used in humvees came from a request per the soldiers that have been to iraq and afghanistan. I am aware that the Army is currently using these units to cool the crews of the Strykers so I don’t see how it’d be that difficult to put some in other vehicles. Yes the hummvees may be a little short on space but it’s replacement should have these integrated in. I know I normally wouldn’t think of a personal climate vest as being necessary but when these guys are stuck baking in the vehicles in the deserts were temps are well over 100 while still having to strap on their 30+ pounds of body armor, I have no problem spending a few tax dollars to keep them cool. It’s better spent on the troops than the welfare sucking leeches that contribute nothing to our country.

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