Comments on: EXCLUSIVE: Osprey Takes First Rescue Flight in Ike

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By: Roy Smith

Roy Smith — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:32:37 +0000

This is a link to an article about the U.S. facing against the very same F-16s it sold to Pakistan.That would be an interesting thread to start & debate. It would also give the F-22 a VERY REAL mission to perform & take the F-22 debate out of the theoretical & into the real world.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/US_faces_the_F-16s_it_supplied_Pakistan/articleshow/3482718.cms

By: Roy Smith

Roy Smith — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:50:38 +0000

The Osprey has not yet been proven in battle. It needs to be in Afghanistan & not in Iraq. If we end up butting heads with Pakistan,then we need our premier weapons on site.The Pakistani army is more professional than Iraq was. We need our Ospreys & our F-22 Raptors on site in Afghanistan in case Pakistan goes totally to the dark side. Also,Pakistan has China to back her up.
Afghanistan is about to blow up in our faces & the force structure we currently have in Afghanistan is totally inappropriate for the task. Pakistani tribal chieftains are ready to help the Taliban if we keep bombing Pakistan & Pakistani armed forces are under orders to shoot down any American aircraft that flies into Pakistan to bomb “terrorist camps.”

By: gruntdoc91

gruntdoc91 — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:44:49 +0000

i meant canuks sorry canada eh

By: gruntdoc91

gruntdoc91 — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:44:04 +0000

the danes, dutch and other caniks have tanks in afghan.and the french have been in more major ground combat than the germans.even more than the brits are seeing in iraq.what any of this has to do with an osprey in america who knows.

By: TB

TB — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:33:52 +0000

Right now there are 3,000 German troops in Afghanistan. That’s a fairly large number compared to the rest of NATO and the fact that their involvement isn’t the most popular thing going right now on their homefront. BTW, the German government wants to increase that by another 2000 troops, but face a lot of political opposition.
Strykers aren’t in Afghanistan right now because they’re fully engaged in Iraq to the tune of 2 of our 6 active Stryker brigades which is ideal due to rotation and equipment concerns.
Getting back to the actual story, I think its great that a) there was an Osprey in range of the Gulf and b) the Air Force appeared confident enough in the aircraft to attempt a rescue.

By: Jeff M

Jeff M — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:22:11 +0000

Perhaps they sent the Osprey into the hurricane for no other reason than to test it in hurricane conditions.

By: Jimbo Jones

Jimbo Jones — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:09:45 +0000

“why are we not sending Stryker units & or tank units to Afghanistan?
Posted by: Roy Smith at September 16, 2008 12:16 PM“
Good point, but i will add that its about time some other countries other then the United States take up more of the workshare, that comment is aimed at the French and Germans especially and some other members who commit forces but are to shit scared to use them in any usefull way.
I do think though the US could do more now but though they are far from broke i do wonder how much cash they have to make aditional deployments of say armour to the Afghan theatre. I say pull all US troops out of Germany and South Korea within two years.
n the mean time it might mean ‘overstressing’ the US military some more but its high time Germany and Europe as a whole started looking after themselves, besides any conflict with the Soviet, sorry i mean Russia is 99% likly to go thermonuclear anyway, same with NK these days.
Perhaps one hundred and fifty thousand more troops could be free’d up within say four years if we did it my way. Opinions? (please dont say b..b..but the German econamy for i don’t care about that)

By: coolhand77

coolhand77 — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:50:02 +0000

They only sent two because thats all they needed for the job. The pilots were smart enough to know that helicopter or tiltrotor, they couldn’t do the job in those conditions. Thats the only thing we can really take from this story…that and the Osprey, for all its “flaws” was able to muscle its way in and out of a hurricane. We didn’t lose either of them, did we?
I wonder if the Ospreys stayed slow so the choppers could keep up, or if they pushed in hard and fast to try to get there before conditions got too bad to get the crew off. If they had to slow down for the choppers, then whoever setup the op should be fired. Thats the benifit of the Osprey in a situation like this…get them there FAST.

By: Jimbo Jones

Jimbo Jones — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:23:51 +0000

“And what relevance does this have to the Germans in WWII?
Posted by: SwissFreek at September 16, 2008 07:16 AM“
it has no relevence to the Germans except in Roys head.
How many Ospreys are in each Marine squadron?