Comments on: New AF Dress Coat Left Flapping in the Wind http://defensetech.org/2008/09/18/new-af-dress-coat-left-flapping-in-the-wind/ The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security Fri, 25 May 2012 23:07:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: StratoCumulus http://defensetech.org/2008/09/18/new-af-dress-coat-left-flapping-in-the-wind/#comment-228571 StratoCumulus Wed, 20 Apr 2011 08:04:57 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4083#comment-228571 ... said the man who's too scared to fly. … said the man who’s too scared to fly.

]]> By: StratoCumulus http://defensetech.org/2008/09/18/new-af-dress-coat-left-flapping-in-the-wind/#comment-228569 StratoCumulus Wed, 20 Apr 2011 08:00:58 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4083#comment-228569 "Seriosly, the Air Force wonders why the other services can't stand them?" That's an easy one: "Propeller Envy." “Seriosly, the Air Force wonders why the other services can’t stand them?”

That’s an easy one: “Propeller Envy.”

]]> By: TSell http://defensetech.org/2008/09/18/new-af-dress-coat-left-flapping-in-the-wind/#comment-193986 TSell Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:07:12 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4083#comment-193986 ?????aweful looking? its short simple and to the point at least the Army aint spending millions on some crappy dress coat. ?????aweful looking? its short simple and to the point at least the Army aint spending millions on some crappy dress coat.

]]> By: M. Janney http://defensetech.org/2008/09/18/new-af-dress-coat-left-flapping-in-the-wind/#comment-193564 M. Janney Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:09:50 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4083#comment-193564 Looks like Salvation Army style. Get a look at the ridiculous collar. The whole thing looks tacky. I would be ashamed to be seen in it. Looks like Salvation Army style. Get a look at the ridiculous collar. The whole thing looks tacky. I would be ashamed to be seen in it.

]]> By: Jose J Clavell http://defensetech.org/2008/09/18/new-af-dress-coat-left-flapping-in-the-wind/#comment-190451 Jose J Clavell Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:02:04 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4083#comment-190451 Had you check Canada lately. Do we want to go that way. Had you check Canada lately. Do we want to go that way.

]]> By: David http://defensetech.org/2008/09/18/new-af-dress-coat-left-flapping-in-the-wind/#comment-190449 David Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:32:41 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4083#comment-190449 why don't they just use a marine uniform, include a leather belt and make it a dark blue in color. It could look sharp and military. The cloth belt makes it look like a robe..especially since the jacket isn't tapered. why don’t they just use a marine uniform, include a leather belt and make it a dark blue in color. It could look sharp and military. The cloth belt makes it look like a robe..especially since the jacket isn’t tapered.

]]> By: Nate http://defensetech.org/2008/09/18/new-af-dress-coat-left-flapping-in-the-wind/#comment-185521 Nate Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:51:07 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4083#comment-185521 There seems to be a lot of experimentation with different variations of AF uniforms these days. With all due respect to the leadership, I think the solution is to leave the dress uniform alone. If you want respect and a huge buy-in with current USAF personnel, as well as other branches, bring back the 1505 uniform. The 1505 was the most practical, comfortable and traditionally connected uniform the Air force ever had. Getting rid of it in late 1976 was a huge mistake and left many in all branches scratching their heads. Don't take my word for it, take a poll and you will see an overwhelming majority of AF personnel jump at the opportunity to wear the 1505 uniform. No other branch could in good conscience state that the 1505 is an ugly uniform or argue that it doesn't fit the Air Force. It was a uniform worn for years by Air force personnel, and was hugely liked. The answer to respect, tradition, practicality, comfort and a uniform that flat out looks sharp is what the Air force already had. Bring back the 1505 uniform and you will be surprised how that will lift morale, and pride amongst the men and women who wear the AF uniform. It will also facilitate newfound respect from other branches who will then try to implement their version of an old AF uniform that never should have been scrapped. There seems to be a lot of experimentation with different variations of AF uniforms these days. With all due respect to the leadership, I think the solution is to leave the dress uniform alone. If you want respect and a huge buy-in with current USAF personnel, as well as other branches, bring back the 1505 uniform.
The 1505 was the most practical, comfortable and traditionally connected uniform the Air force ever had. Getting rid of it in late 1976 was a huge mistake and left many in all branches scratching their heads. Don’t take my word for it, take a poll and you will see an overwhelming majority of AF personnel jump at the opportunity to wear the 1505 uniform.
No other branch could in good conscience state that the 1505 is an ugly uniform or argue that it doesn’t fit the Air Force. It was a uniform worn for years by Air force personnel, and was hugely liked. The answer to respect, tradition, practicality, comfort and a uniform that flat out looks sharp is what the Air force already had.
Bring back the 1505 uniform and you will be surprised how that will lift morale, and pride amongst the men and women who wear the AF uniform. It will also facilitate newfound respect from other branches who will then try to implement their version of an old AF uniform that never should have been scrapped.

]]> By: Sherman Carliles http://defensetech.org/2008/09/18/new-af-dress-coat-left-flapping-in-the-wind/#comment-185519 Sherman Carliles Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:12:37 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4083#comment-185519 I am trying to locate fellow Veterans that was assigned to the Third Field Hospital, from Nov. 1967, until May 1969, if you are out there, please contact me, Sherman Carliles, shermancarliles@comcast.net. I am looking fordward to hearing from all of you. I am trying to locate fellow Veterans that was assigned to the Third Field Hospital, from Nov. 1967, until May 1969, if you are out there, please contact me, Sherman Carliles, shermancarliles@comcast.net. I am looking fordward to hearing from all of you.

]]> By: Sherman Carliles http://defensetech.org/2008/09/18/new-af-dress-coat-left-flapping-in-the-wind/#comment-185518 Sherman Carliles Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:11:56 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4083#comment-185518 I am trying to locate fellow Veterans that was assigned to the Third Field Hospital, from Nov. 1967, until May 1969, if you are out there, please contact me, Sherman Carliles, shermancarliles@comcast.net. I am looking fordward to hearing from all of you. I am trying to locate fellow Veterans that was assigned to the Third Field Hospital, from Nov. 1967, until May 1969, if you are out there, please contact me, Sherman Carliles, shermancarliles@comcast.net. I am looking fordward to hearing from all of you.

]]> By: Dusty http://defensetech.org/2008/09/18/new-af-dress-coat-left-flapping-in-the-wind/#comment-185517 Dusty Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:38:28 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=4083#comment-185517 So what would you rather. Military or none. Sure government spending is out of control. No doubt.. But I'd much rather have them there than not. There is allot of paranoia going on about the black ops. That they are here to kill us, Americans. Youtube it and you can find one conspiracy freak after another. Sorry to say it but fire power is the only way to keep the peace. I live near an AFB and I sleep VERY well knowing there's enough fire power in that ONE place to wipe out a small nation. There's allot of people who are down on the military. WHY?? They work for us. If you want to angry with some one try looking up the tree towards the top. Military personnel DO NOT wage wars. Leaders of nations wage wars.. I'd love to see these guys thrown into a cage match situation and let them figure it out rather than watch our soldiers killed one after another. War is young men dying and old men getting rich over it. That has not changed from the stone age. Always over religion, land or some thing else STUPID! IF you've ever watched Dances with wolves Dunbar says this after fighting off an attack from a rival tribe. "I've never been in a war like this one, there was no dark politacal agenda, it was not about land or riches, it was about protecting children and loved ones just a few feet away, it was about protecting the food stores that would see us through the winter".. These days wars are waged over "dark political agendas". I am 100% behind out troops. I don't agree with the wars, but our troops? I love them all. Which brings to a sore spot to say little. The wife of a dead congressmen gets ONE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR UNTIL SHE DIES!.. WTF??! Yet our own vets are more often than not rejected and treated poorly when they return home. They live on the streets begging!.. These men who fought for this country are treated like dirt... Shame on allot of you. I read you posts.. SHAME SHAME SHAME ON YOU!... These vets should be treated with velvet gloves. They should be housed, fed and taken VERY excellent care of. The families of the fallen get what? A free funeral, a thanks, and a flag? While some old broad that was married to a DEAD US congressmen get ONE MILLION A YEAR until she dies!? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG HERE?! We send money over seas while AMERICANS go hungry and live on the streets. A PRISON INMATE gets more money than a school teacher! Not only that but out of a teachers pittance of a paycheck they are expected to BUY their own teaching materials?.. Allot needs to change in this country. Prisons are over flowing, children are getting passed along like some kind of disposable commodity and many graduate UNABLE to fill out a W2? A prison inmate can go to college! Get a Ph.D if they want one. But our own children are NOT getting a proper education?.. I could go on for DAYS about whats wrong. We need SERIOUS changes if we are to survive as a country and we need them now! So what would you rather. Military or none. Sure government spending is out of control. No doubt.. But I’d much rather have them there than not. There is allot of paranoia going on about the black ops. That they are here to kill us, Americans. Youtube it and you can find one conspiracy freak after another. Sorry to say it but fire power is the only way to keep the peace. I live near an AFB and I sleep VERY well knowing there’s enough fire power in that ONE place to wipe out a small nation. There’s allot of people who are down on the military. WHY?? They work for us. If you want to angry with some one try looking up the tree towards the top. Military personnel DO NOT wage wars. Leaders of nations wage wars.. I’d love to see these guys thrown into a cage match situation and let them figure it out rather than watch our soldiers killed one after another. War is young men dying and old men getting rich over it. That has not changed from the stone age. Always over religion, land or some thing else STUPID! IF you’ve ever watched Dances with wolves Dunbar says this after fighting off an attack from a rival tribe. “I’ve never been in a war like this one, there was no dark politacal agenda, it was not about land or riches, it was about protecting children and loved ones just a few feet away, it was about protecting the food stores that would see us through the winter”.. These days wars are waged over “dark political agendas”.
I am 100% behind out troops. I don’t agree with the wars, but our troops? I love them all. Which brings to a sore spot to say little. The wife of a dead congressmen gets ONE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR UNTIL SHE DIES!.. WTF??! Yet our own vets are more often than not rejected and treated poorly when they return home. They live on the streets begging!.. These men who fought for this country are treated like dirt… Shame on allot of you. I read you posts.. SHAME SHAME SHAME ON YOU!… These vets should be treated with velvet gloves. They should be housed, fed and taken VERY excellent care of. The families of the fallen get what? A free funeral, a thanks, and a flag? While some old broad that was married to a DEAD US congressmen get ONE MILLION A YEAR until she dies!? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG HERE?! We send money over seas while AMERICANS go hungry and live on the streets. A PRISON INMATE gets more money than a school teacher! Not only that but out of a teachers pittance of a paycheck they are expected to BUY their own teaching materials?.. Allot needs to change in this country. Prisons are over flowing, children are getting passed along like some kind of disposable commodity and many graduate UNABLE to fill out a W2? A prison inmate can go to college! Get a Ph.D if they want one. But our own children are NOT getting a proper education?.. I could go on for DAYS about whats wrong. We need SERIOUS changes if we are to survive as a country and we need them now!

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