Comments on: DoD Cancels Armed Reconnaissance Helicopter

By: Daniel

Daniel — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:42:47 +0000

My comment is just simple and straight forward.
We must all help to maintain peace in the sub–
region.
Kudos! to you guys at military.com and have a nice
day.

By: angel

angel — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:07:13 +0000

By: tontochoc

tontochoc — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:39:38 +0000

tontochoc,
I maybe wrong, but I think Australia consolidated it’s armed recon helos (Kiowa) & gunships (Iroquois) into a single bird. The US is, for now at least, going to maintain the separate roles (Kiowa & Apache)… some might refer to it as a Hunter-Killer concept.
“PROJECT AIR 87″
http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/asd/air87/main.cfm
Consolidate might be what the idea was but the poor old iroquois were showing their age and a couple of old miniguns and 14 2.75inch rockets and two twin M60s were just not survivable.
The underlying reason was that the RAAF was highly unlikely to provide any F/A-18s for CAIRS and now the Army can provide excellent fire support to the infantry along with the new artillery guns and precision guided rounds coming into service.

By: Camp

Camp — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:12:07 +0000

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By: tontochoc

tontochoc — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:31:21 +0000

The Australian Army rhas eplaced most of its Kiowas (I bet ther are a few lurking somewhere) with the Eurocopter Tiger as its armed reconnaissance helicopter. Maybe we did it right and you fellows did it wrong. The avionics including targetting system, EW etc are the key expenses , not the airframe and engine, and you only pay for what you get.

By: Ontos

Ontos — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:00:30 +0000

DC2,
Exactly what I was thinking…
Unfortunately, with the way the Pentagon works, it would probably end up more expensive than the Osprey.. forget about the Comanche!

By: DC2 Jennings

DC2 Jennings — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:22:28 +0000

Ontos,
I agree, that was my “dumb down” comment. Single engine vs two, two hardpoints vs four, and a 7.62 coaxial vs. 20 mm.
Try to use as much off the shelf stuff as possible. BAE is already working on the 7.62 minigun for the V-22.
Of course before it was all said and done it would cost more than the Comanche.
DC2

By: Camp

Camp — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:12:06 +0000

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By: Ontos

Ontos — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:33:38 +0000

As for the AH-1 idea.….
Personally, I like it. But, for this role I think you would want something more like an updated AH-1G model, rather than the current Whiskey or Zulu heavies…
Cheaper to operate, lighter, etc., etc.