I received an e-mail last week from a young man who’d had some issues with his M9 over in the Big Sandbox. As a complaint, this isn’t a terribly new or unusual one. I’m pretty sure that if you did a survey of every military related blog and all the various tactical– or military-type magazines out there, you’d find numerous mentions of M9 problems in the desert.
But it was particularly important to me to answer the young man’s query, since just a couple weeks ago I was talking to Slim about some Cav scouts we’d trained with previously. They’d also mentioned their M9 problems, and were also pretty disgruntled that they weren’t given more time on the range with it before deploying. One of said he’d only fired it a couple times for qualification, never for proficiency or on a combat course. With the subject coming up twice in a month, once from the Marines and once from the Army, it seemed time to see what we could do to help.
So. The M9, 9mm Beretta. Civilian-wise we call it the 92F or 92FS, et al. Some guys love it, some hate it. There are civilian cops that swear by it, which baffles me personally, but guns are like boots and beer. Everyone has a favorite, usually held with a devoted certainty that says anyone that prefers a different model is a dumbass. you know what I’m talking about. 1911 guys (of any breed) make fun of Glock guys, who shake their heads at Sig guys, who just can’t understand the S&W guys.
For myself, I prefer the M9 as a boat anchor if a Ruger isn’t available but that’s just me.
Anyway your opinion doesn’t really matter in the military, as you’re not given a choice. TO make matters worse, most of the guys that carry one aren’t all that well trained with it. Trained, I said, not familiarized. I’ve been fortunate enough to spend a lot of time on the range with a lot of different folks, and with some exceptions it’s been pretty clear that most military trigger-pullers are competent at best with the handgun. I don’t equate competent with true proficiency. Keep in mind I’m not passing judgment. It’s not the troops’ fault. There’s only so much training time and so many training rounds, but that doesn’t excuse training NCOs and rangemasters from putting their people through some good drills to really promote mastery of the weapon.
Anyway, this isn’t about training or courses of fire. This will be just a few quick hints we’ve found to be helpful when you have to carry one. So, Jeremy, here you go.
First off know how to do your own inspection for BMCLS (Broken, Missing, Worn, Clean, Lubed, Serviceable) as best as you can. Spend any extra time you can on the range and pay attention to guys that know more than you do. You never know when you might pick something up.
The firstest, mostest importanest thing after keeping it cleaned and lubed (which should be obvious unless you’re one of my handlers, who cleans his guns once a year religiously on his birthday whether they need it or not) is your magazines. By far the most common feed failures experienced (that I’m aware of anyway) with the M9 pistol has been due to magazines. Check yours and make sure they’re good to go. Oh, and you know how there are black ones and gray ones issued out? They gray ones are after-market, and usually they suck. The springs aren’t as good and they’re nowhere near as durable. If you’ve ever dropped one of the after-market gray ones on a hard surface you’ve probably watched it explode into its component pieces or have at least seen the rounds drop back until their noses are all pointed straight up.
Check the grips, especially if your magazine isn’t wanting to seat. If it’s an older M9, the grips were attached to the weapon with screws. There are/were washers inside the grips that spaced it properly so the screws held the grips on without intruding into the magazine wells. Depending upon who cleaned it last, or just got bored and took it apart, there’s a good chance those washers are gone. With the washers gone the screws can sometimes protrude and get in the way of the magazine when you go to seat it.
The newer M9s (I think it’s the M9A1, but I could be behind the curve here) uses allen wrenches to hold the grips on, so you don’t have to worry about that. They’re the ones with different rear sights and the half moon hammer pin showing, and depending upon attrition and replacement their recoil spring guide will be polymer instead of metal.
Oh, also, even if you don’t have time to clean it or brush it out, always check the feed ramp for debris. If anything builds up there, even just a little bit, the front of the projectile can catch on it and prevent a good chambering of the round.
That’s pretty much all I’ve got. Perhaps some of our readers can help out as well, or correct me if I gorked something up here. Remember, FATS or CATS or whatever is good, real range time is better, and it never hurts to dry fire. You can improve your skills just by drawing, presenting, aiming and pulling the trigger of an unloaded weapon. I’ve never heard of a police course or academy that didn’t hound is students mercilessly to dryfire.
Now, remember: PRACTICE doesn’t make perfect. Practice just makes you rehearsed. PERFECT practice makes perfect. Make sure you’ve got a good grip and you’re doing it right every time you train. One last thing you might consider — if a shooter is going to have trouble with the M9’s trigger pull, it will usually be the first one (double-action). This is natural, a double action shot trigger pull is typically going to be less accurate than a single action trigger pull (for most people). If you have the money and the inclination (and you don’t live in the People’s Republic of California) you might think about going and buying one of the civilian model 92s with the bobbed hammer. It’s a pain in the ass, but all you can shoot with it is double action. Spend some time on the range with that in order to get used to that first trigger squeeze after you drag iron.
Nice article.
FWIW, if you can’t get range time there’s a dry fire drill that can help with drawing, sighting and trigger control, particularly with double action triggers. Put a snap cap in the chamber, turn on a TV set, and practice head shots.
Apart from interview or news shows, the camera cuts to and away talking heads so quickly that it takes a little skill to acquire a target. And, a camera’s depth of field/view renders targets at roughly the POV you’d have at combat ranges — not too close, not too far.
I learned this from a Ranger buddy, back in the 80s. It works, believe it or not.
You just don’t want to let the neighbors see you doing it. Or your kids, wife, or girlfriend.
It’s a little hard to explain why you’re watching GILLIGAN’S ISLAND, busting caps at Mr. Howell.
Check out the M9A1 with the new mags and you may re-think things!
During last years TAG Match at CMP JT Robinson, in Arkansas I had the wonderful experience of being issued a weapon to use in the match that I had never fired. For that matter, we had not been to the range since returning from Iraq and I would guess that this weapon had not been touched except for some basic PMCS for over a year. I did not have the oppertunity to fire the weapon prior to the match and during the first course of fire found the weapon inoperable. After the completion of the match, further inspection of the M9 proved that the pin in the rotating block of the safety was frozen in place. Neither I nor an armorer at the match could cause the pin to free. It is not known, but was suggested that there was some fine sand and probably oil and/or rust.
Moral of the story… time at the range and verifying the function is second only to care of the weapon.
The dry fire drill described above is a method many competition shooters use prior to matches in the IPSC/USPSA world… only occasionally have they shot out a tv in their motel rooms. It works wonders for aquiring targets and trigger control.
The first question is why so many people are carrying pistols when they have an assault rifle o carbine. The spavce and weight of a pistol equates to two hand grenades or three full M16 30 round magazines.
In my youger days I used an 92F amongst others and was unimpreses with it finding it unbalanced and poor for CQB. Notwithstanding that the old rule was never carry a pistol when something else better was available — smg, carbine, shotgun or rilfle. I ould repeatedly do 50m head shots with a military issue browning hi-power but presffered a long arm. Wht carry a pistol now?
Keep the comments coming, fellas. I’m gonna do another entry later on summarizing them. Feel free to come over and check out other stuff we’re doing at Breach-Bang-Clear, too. We’re slowing adding to our “stable” of SMEs that are guest-blogging for us, so hopefully we’ll continue to have decent material.
Beyond me and Slim, of course. Even world-class operators need help from time to time.
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My M-9 seems OK– I’ve carried it for almost a year now and I take extra care to keep it clean and ready in the sandbox. I haven’t had to use it yet but it will be ready if I do. No weapon can be ignored and so many soldiers do exactly that! This being said, there is no way I would trade it for my personal Browning Hi-Power. You can argue double action is better if you want,BUT the Browning Hi-Power is SUPERIOR to so many 9mm Auto’s these days! John Browning was a genius and the Hi-Power was his last design. Of course he also gets credit for the 50-cal that we still use, and the 45ACP which served us so well for so long. I rest my case your Honor.
FYI — the Army’s PEO Soldier has started a feedback web for equipment in circulation (https://peosoldier.army.mil/surveys.asp) and what’s the first item listed? The 9mm Pistol. The site is open to anyone, but a CAC card login is required to provide feedback. Perhaps with enough input, it can be improved.
What I often see is “M9 lacks stopping power”, and “M1911 has stopping power but lacks accuracy and kicks back too hard”. This type of rivalry somewhat reminds me the M14 vs M16 of the Vietnam War era. So, has there been any tries for a new bullet with both accuracy with less kick back and stopping power?
I’m curious as to why the H&K MK23 hasn’t seen adoption outside of SOCOM. It has been proven to provide optimal reliability, accuracy, and stopping power under combat conditions, is nearly indestructible, and requires minimal maintenance. I’m assuming that it all comes down to cost or some political preference which influenced the contract, as I could not imagine a soldier or marine having a preference for an M9 over an MK23/USP.
The MK23 is brick. It’s huge, it’s heavy, and it’s really expensive. It’s a special purpose weapon that works for the narrow purpose it was designed for.
The reason why infantry types want a pistol is so they have a weapon when their rifle or carbine goes down at close range. It’s faster to draw a pistol that it is to try to clear a type 3.
i am retired municipal police and i do a great deal of combat shooting and always have. i have never owned a Beretta but have fired a couple of them extensively. i never found a problem with them or any serious lack in drill or accuracy compared to other institutional type guns. i actually like them.
there are a lot of things to say but i focus in on what i understand to be a major problem with issueing the M9. the combat arms of the u.s. military seems to be uninterested in its weapons and their use. a bold statement, i know, but i see similar problems with the employment of a variety of weapons by our military.
citing only one instance, a recent stury of function problems with M16 type rifles focused on lubrication procedures. reading the official paper it was immediately apparent that the authors knew absolutely nada, zip, zilch about lubricants and guns. two of the six “lubricants” studied as being widely deployed were not lubricants, two were completly contraindicated for any auto weapon, one was well known to be useless around stainless steel and aluminum, and the last was not being applied according to the makers instructions.
ideal, best practice, lubrication procedures described in the reaport were, in fact, exactly the opposite of what is the real best practice for the weapon.
but even even more disturbing in the report was the hidden text that the combat units” leadership at officer or NCO level did not make maintenance and inspection a priority and the real problem was a failure of leadership and professionalism.
it seems to me that what you have described in this report reflects the same issue. most of the problems described as problematic with the M9 boils down to lack of leadership, lack of technical knowledge, and lack of handling and maintenance training for the individual soldier.
until these issues are addressed, nothing will improve and no weapon will be reliable.
The Mark23 really is huge. “brick” is a good way to describe it. It easily weighs twice what an m9 weighs. I’ve shot both extensively, and the mk23 is more of a niche weapon. I have both the HK45 and the P30L, and those would both be great solutions, though they’re pretty pricey.
It certainly sounds like an issue with REMF units I can’t see the U.S Army/ U.S.M.C. people I have met not cleaning their primary weapons when given a chance. With pistols however, I can easily imagine them not being cleaned daily as they tend to get overlooked as another bloody weapon to clean, which is rarely used.
Most soldiers can’t shoot it accurately over seven metres so if it’s just for Close Quarter battle/Combat great. why they carry it in the field is beyond me. Ninety rounds of 5.56mm or 60 rounds of 7.62mm suits me fine as soldiers seem to get lumbered with more mission essential items every mission.
As a cheap shot, I wonder how many police clean their weapon after duty too.
I bought a very realistic M9 air soft gun. It is a lot cheaper, safer and quieter to practice with than going to the range. And surprisingly accurate.
I have shot the M9 a lot. And of course had a 92F for a number of years. Of course as mentioned everyone has their personal prefs.
The gun shoots real well. Very accurate. I like the feel of it and I like the safety system.
I dropped the thing once from about waist height. That drop broke the firing pin. Consider that you could play catch with a Glock all day in a parking lot and drop it a bunch of times and it still would go “bang”, is an important thing to consider. Well cared home defense and hobby shooting? The 92F is classy and well built. Carry every day as a life support tool? Hmmm. Don’t know about that.
No surprise that some troops aren’t trained properly on weapons (pick one) given all of the ammo shortages.
I shoot for my state’s junior high power team. We had a fun night for practice earlier this year, and we had an M9, a .38 super, a M4, a MP5 and a few other 9mm including some glocks. I recall firing the M9 when we began, it was very user friendly and fired nicely. then after shooting it a little later after it had seen maybe 100 rounds, it jammed almost every time u pulled the trigger. the Glock didnt jam until maybe 300 rounds…we only had 1000 rounds of 9mm, 100 or 200 of .38 super and like 200 5.56. Anyway, I found the M9 to be simple to operate but not reliable after becoming slightly dirty.
For the non glock users or those whom say it is not a good weapon. I have a glock model 23 have fired 1000’s of rnds and have fired 2000 rnds with out cleaning and have had no jams or failure to feed issues. only problem I have had which may not be a problem to some is when you slam the mag in the slide goes forward if you have not cleaned in awhile. To me that is one less step i have to do if im in a not so nice situation. Yeah i should be cleaning it more offten but sometimes you get home from range and wife is complaining that (you have been gone all day and you love your weapons more than me.) Hey what can I say it is dependable and does not talk back.
I’m not military, but i’ve been civilian CCW for something like fourteen years now and I’ve handled/carried/shot pretty much everything at one time or another (advantages of working at a gun store and being the only guy at the range willing to clean the rental guns).
My dislike of the M9 is rooted in ergonomics: the grips are way too thick for people with smaller hands to use comfortably; the slide-mounted safety is annoying; and it’s just plain big. Most soldiers who carry a handgun either have another weapon to use (riflemen, weapons crew) or something else to worry about (engineers, drivers) and would be served as well or better by a more compact design that is more ‘human-friendly’ and easier to handle. Most police departments in America have gone to SIG’s and Glocks for this reason, among others.
My personal preference, assuming that the services remain with 9mm NATO, would be to switch over either to a standard SIG 229 (which is already issued to some extent, IIRC) or to a Glock Model 19 as a standard issue; both are compact and easy to shoot and police departments all over America can attest to their reliability. The per-unit and total procurement price tag is low enough that if the services wish to buy small lots of different models for some of their units with special needs, that’s budgetarily feasible too (think of the USMC with their Glock 21’s and then the CQB 1911’s).
I found this article very informative and well-written. Thanks, B-B-C; and thanks to all who serve.
I’ve always been a trigger man. I’ve shot USPSA, IPSC, IDPA, National Match, etc. My personal favorite is my Wilson Combat CQB 1911 but the military can’t issue $2000 pistols to troops in mass. It’s not perfect as the single stack magazine only holds 7–9 rounds depending on the brand.
I’m also a big fan of Sigs, Glocks, and the S&W M&P. I like the Sprinfield XDs but for some reason I’m just not accurate with them. I think the military in general should really look towards the Glock or Sig. The Navy already uses Sig 226s for special operations and they have a good record even in the desert.
The most talk I have heard revolves around the desire for 45ACPs over 9mm. If you’re restricted to ball ammo it only makes sense and the 45APC is a proven combat round even with ball ammo. That means the vote is up for a Glock 21SF or a Sig P220.
im a scout sniper and use the m9, im very disatisfied. Broken trigger springs, bad mags and numerous feeding issues has made me lose alot of faith in my sidearm.
Alot of navy guys like the Sig and Ive personally but my glock and springfield xd’s through hell.
I hope soon well end up with one of those three. This darn m9 doesnt give me the warm fuzzy like the others.
from my understanding drom guys i know in the service they found thier m9 very worked over and nearly worn out causing accuracy problems as well as feed problems. and why on earth should we be having ammo shortages we just sold like 300,000 tons of munitions to korea. the problem was that the m9 wasn’t the winner when the competition was held to choose 1911’s replacement it was runner up but was cheaper per item witch applies murphys law always remember your weapon was made by the lowest bidder.
” Everyone has a favorite, usually held with a devoted certainty that says anyone that prefers a different model is a dumbass. you know what I’m talking about. 1911 guys (of any breed) make fun of Glock guys, who shake their heads at Sig guys, who just can’t understand the S&W guys.” Gee. Sounds like Windows, Apple and Linux users.
There are two problems with the M9.
One is that today’s generation calling themselves “Soldiers” refuse to take care of their equipment. No prior generation of soldiers has experienced the consistent weapon failures being seen today across nearly every individual and crew-served weapon in the Army. The Army is busily working on equipment changes to idiot-proof its weapons (such as the replacement for the Ma Deuce that won’t need the headspace set) but most of those changes won’t get here for a couple of years.
The second problem with the M9 is simply that it is a 9mm, and the military is required to use FMJ ammo. The terminal ballistics of the 9mm FMJ today are not significantly different from the terminal ballistics of the 38 that the military was using in the 19th century. We abandoned the 38 specifically due to inadequate terminal ballistics and adopted a round that had adequate performance with the FMJ round required for the military.
The 9mm MAY be an adequate round using a modern JHP or similar bullet, but even that is subject to reasonable debate. The author mentions police using the Beretta 92 but doesn’t mention that NONE of those departments use FMJ ammo, and also doesn’t mention that many have changed from the Beretta 92 to the 96 which is the same pistol in .40S&W caliber (and they still don’t use FMJ there either.)
Tom,
No prior generation has had similar issues with weapons due to upkeep like the current? Are you serious? How about those nagging errors with the M16a1 back in Vietnam where the thing had a constant weapons malfunction problem because it wasn’t cleaned. Or how about all those old 1911s that were still in service that were now horribly inaccurate because they had been treated like so much as a status symbol by officers and Senior NCOs. Those ring a bell for you?
I agree with the article about not enough training and not enough proper training. Fact is this, for some reason people are more afraid of handling that little pistol rather than a big M16a2 or the M4 or M249, M240, or even the Ma Deuce.
Officers get very little weapons training especially, and they are the ones most likely to use this. I have watched officers firing into the dirt at a target no more than 25 meters away. The officers need the training but they need to listen to their NCOs for this training.
I like the number of rounds the Springfield XD gives me. Its a double stack but not a “brick”..its not that heavy. 14 rounds of .45 is no joke, and I have a 9mm sub-compact, when using the extended mag, gives me 16. A pistol is for defensive purposes, or when ur rifle jams. The Croation military uses the XD, but look at the Coast Guard and SEALS, they use SIG’s. A .40 SIG may be a good compromise.
I carry the M9 as my primary duty weapon. No, I’m not an officer, but my duties sometimes require me to carry concealed. Anyway, I’ve shot the M9 a whole heap of times and I’m damn good with it. Does that mean I like it? Hell no. I’ve never had any problems with it, maybe because I’m real methodical in care and maintenance and rotating out magazines every 2–3 days so the springs don’t stay compressed. At 25 meters I can put rounds in the 10 ring quickly. Therein, however, lies the problem. I don’t want to put rounds in a target, then reload, then put rounds in another target. I want to put a round in a target, then another round into another target, and so on and so on. The 9mm just won’t do that. So basically, I’m biatching about the round, not really about weapon. No doubt about it though, it’s a bit big for concealment and will jack up on you without proper maintenance.
Downrange I spend a lot of time dry-firing at AFN. Probably would’ve given my Commander a heart attack had he known. Shame he never caught me doing it.
i really question people saying that cleaning habits off the weapon are what is causing weapon trouble. i really question this because i think so little attention is being paid to the difficult enviroment out there that these weapon system are being expected to perform in
i have read alot of reports of men claiming they are cleaning thier weapons daily and having feeding and extraction stoppages. i can easily see how the fine sand and high temperatures could lead to these problems it could be we just need a more affective lubricant but it seems we are just blaming it on lazy soldiers which seems silly to me
Hey, I’m just a girl but…if war is my job you can bet I am going to know every weapon on my body inside and out. I’m not going to rely on someone to train me in it and then blame them if the training isn’t sufficient.
Too, it is my lifeline, that weapon. It will be treated like gold. I may not like it — crappy model, prefer a different manu — no matter. It sends rounds downrange at speed. Period.
And it will have the best springs, magazines, and any other after market parts I have to get — even on my own dime — to ensure it works right every time.
Anything less is just sayin’ you don’t care if you come home again.
My 2 cents…yeah, like I said, I’m just a girl.
I have a real basic question. Is there a report out in the system of how many people have Actually shot the M9 in Iraq and Afghanistan in action. Their after battle reports would appear to be the best option. If so, could someone post it here or give me the details via Christian.
Cheers,
tontochoc
Two small points.
1. 9mm is at the top of the peo list because it puts numbers in front of letters in alphabetical order, just like Blockbuster and in contravention of the sacred customers of librarians everywhere who put numbers where they would appear if spelled out.
2. The DoD can easily afford to issue new $2,000 pistols. The total cost of issuing one to every single person in the military (Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines) is $2.8 billion, give or take, and actually would cost considerably less because not every single person in active duty military service is issued one. Also, presumably this would not be done all in one year. Finally, given the necessity of replacing firearms or buying parts for existing ones over time in any case, there are significant costs avoided by buying new weapons. In sum, the real cost of buying new $2,000 a shot pistols on the hardware side are well under $2.8 billion over several years.
Give the degree to which deadly military combat still happens at or near pistol range, and the political consequences that have flowed from being cheap on equipment that has an obvious connection to the mission (compare the armored humvee, body armor and MRAP debates of the last five years or so), it is hard to see anyone complaining about this kind of expense. Similarly, failing to fund a next generation rifle, of whatever caliber, with greater reliability, is a political risk and a modest cost as far as the defense budget is concerned. These debates are not being driven by weapon cost.
Of course, there would be training, and training the trainer costs associated with a new pistol that would probably dwarf the acquisition costs. But, to the extent that there are training shortfalls with the existing weapon, the improved training associated with the hoopla of a new sidearm might itself have beneficial effects independent of the benefits of the new weapon itself.
Two small points.
1. 9mm is at the top of the peo list because it puts numbers in front of letters in alphabetical order, just like Blockbuster and in contravention of the sacred customers of librarians everywhere who put numbers where they would appear if spelled out.
2. The DoD can easily afford to issue new $2,000 pistols. The total cost of issuing one to every single person in the military (Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines) is $2.8 billion, give or take, and actually would cost considerably less because not every single person in active duty military service is issued one. Also, presumably this would not be done all in one year. Finally, given the necessity of replacing firearms or buying parts for existing ones over time in any case, there are significant costs avoided by buying new weapons. In sum, the real cost of buying new $2,000 a shot pistols on the hardware side are well under $2.8 billion over several years.
Give the degree to which deadly military combat still happens at or near pistol range, and the political consequences that have flowed from being cheap on equipment that has an obvious connection to the mission (compare the armored humvee, body armor and MRAP debates of the last five years or so), it is hard to see anyone complaining about this kind of expense. Similarly, failing to fund a next generation rifle, of whatever caliber, with greater reliability, is a political risk and a modest cost as far as the defense budget is concerned. These debates are not being driven by weapon cost.
Of course, there would be training, and training the trainer costs associated with a new pistol that would probably dwarf the acquisition costs. But, to the extent that there are training shortfalls with the existing weapon, the improved training associated with the hoopla of a new sidearm might itself have beneficial effects independent of the benefits of the new weapon itself.
The Europeans may love the 9mm but in my view we Americans, or our soldiers at least are .45 cal people. Considering how rarely pistols see action it was probably a mistake to adopt the 9mm M9 Beretta for NATO purposes. Even if war broke out we could have certainly supplied all of the .45 caliber ammo which would be used by our pistols. We should have gone to a modernized .45 cal then and should still now. Yet we have to get past the usual politics.
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After thirty-two years in law enforcement I would like to comment on the M9. It is not a bad weapon. It is reliable, with periodic maintenance, and has no major flaws; with the exception of the caliber.
The major drawback to the weapon, itself, is the caliber. The 9mm, especially in the hardball loading mandated to the military, simply does not have the terminal effects of the .40s&w or .45acp cartridge. Therefor, shot placement is critical when using this weapon. Also, being a supersonic round, it does not lend itself well to use for sentry removal in suppressed weapons.
The other glaring problem with military pistols, in general, is the lack of comprehensive training in their use. Pistols are not rifles and an entirely different set of skills needs to be developed and practiced to effectively utilize these weapons. This includes tactics of pistol utilization, pre-deployment setup, transition from primary [rifle] weapon to secondary [pistol] weapon and malfunction clearance training. Very little, if any, training of this nature is given to standard military personnel.
Armory maintenance of sidearms is entirely dependent upon the head armorer and his staff. A good armorer will make sure that every weapon that leaves his facility is functioning at optimal levels. Once in the hands of the individual soldier, it is up to him, or her, to maintain the weapon. And maintenance, especially in the sand box, is critical to the soldier’s wellbeing.
Just remember one thing. Most modern weapons are prone to mechanical failure, usually at the most inopportune time. Simple weapons such as knives, swords, sticks and rocks are much more reliable. And the most reliable weapon of all is the highly motivated, highly trained, highly adaptive soldier/warrior.
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