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	<title>Comments on: Butter Not Guns for the Next Four Years?</title>
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		<title>By: Howdy</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/10/29/butter-not-guns-for-the-next-four-years/#comment-87605</link>
		<dc:creator>Howdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 05:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think defense spending is going to go to more American jobs to American workers.  Maybe even more &quot;spending&quot; can stay in this country instead of being shipped to Dubai in shady no bid contracts.  There&#039;s been too much profiteering and not enough defense for our buck.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think defense spending is going to go to more American jobs to American workers.  Maybe even more “spending” can stay in this country instead of being shipped to Dubai in shady no bid contracts.  There’s been too much profiteering and not enough defense for our buck.</p>
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		<title>By: unmannedanimal</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/10/29/butter-not-guns-for-the-next-four-years/#comment-87598</link>
		<dc:creator>unmannedanimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obama is the most Liberal voting member of congress. He never stood against his own party, for any issue. &quot;
one of these quoted statements is not true: if obama always votes in-caucus, then he cannot be described as the &quot;most liberal&quot; member of anything; the majority of the caucus define the platform of the caucus and the democratic party is not uniformly liberal.  either he is uniformly liberal or uniformly democrat, but not both.
i&#039;ll go one further and say that obama HAS stood against his party: he ran his primary campaign by his rulebook, not that of e.g. the clinton machine that democrats have extended as doctrine.  since winning the nomination, he has continued to play by his rules.  as president he will be the one who writes the rules, not the one who follows the rules.
mccain ran his own primary campaign, but since winning the nomination he has given up control completely to the GOP operatives that brought us the past eight years of governance.  the same filthy politics that cost him the party nomination in elections past are being used to elect him now.  the absence of lieberman on the ticket is a clear indication of who controls mccain&#039;s campaign and they will be in the number two seat of a mccain presidency.  on this most important of issues, mccain has NOT stood against his party.
one of these was, in his youth, a maverick.  one is a revolutionary.  who do we need now?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Obama is the most Liberal voting member of congress. He never stood against his own party, for any issue. “<br />
one of these quoted statements is not true: if obama always votes in-caucus, then he cannot be described as the “most liberal” member of anything; the majority of the caucus define the platform of the caucus and the democratic party is not uniformly liberal.  either he is uniformly liberal or uniformly democrat, but not both.<br />
i’ll go one further and say that obama HAS stood against his party: he ran his primary campaign by his rulebook, not that of e.g. the clinton machine that democrats have extended as doctrine.  since winning the nomination, he has continued to play by his rules.  as president he will be the one who writes the rules, not the one who follows the rules.<br />
mccain ran his own primary campaign, but since winning the nomination he has given up control completely to the GOP operatives that brought us the past eight years of governance.  the same filthy politics that cost him the party nomination in elections past are being used to elect him now.  the absence of lieberman on the ticket is a clear indication of who controls mccain’s campaign and they will be in the number two seat of a mccain presidency.  on this most important of issues, mccain has NOT stood against his party.<br />
one of these was, in his youth, a maverick.  one is a revolutionary.  who do we need now?</p>
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		<title>By: jedd</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/10/29/butter-not-guns-for-the-next-four-years/#comment-78273</link>
		<dc:creator>jedd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He has the same hard on for the service like Clinton had.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has the same hard on for the service like Clinton had.</p>
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		<title>By: Camp</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/10/29/butter-not-guns-for-the-next-four-years/#comment-78272</link>
		<dc:creator>Camp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reminded of a video on YouTube...
Obama: Defense Pledges
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcqhoiK8-Ww
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m reminded of a video on YouTube…<br />
Obama: Defense Pledges<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://defensetech.org/2008/10/29/butter-not-guns-for-the-next-four-years/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/IcqhoiK8-Ww/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/10/29/butter-not-guns-for-the-next-four-years/#comment-87595</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say this, America has done far more with less money.  The best thing an Obama or McCain Administration could do would be to FIX the broken development and aquisitions system that we have now.  Start with eliminating Cost+ contracts, and start making the contractors pay for their own mistakes.  When you buy any product the manufacturer is expected to factor in their profit from the price of the object, and eats any costs in development or defects.  Defense contracts should be no different. 3 classic examples of GREAT defense design are the P-51, the U2 &amp; the SR-71.  All of which had their basic designs completed in a short time and were fielded in short order. If you can&#039;t do it right the first time, get out of the business.
On the missle defense side of it, would losing L.A. be that much of a loss?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say this, America has done far more with less money.  The best thing an Obama or McCain Administration could do would be to FIX the broken development and aquisitions system that we have now.  Start with eliminating Cost+ contracts, and start making the contractors pay for their own mistakes.  When you buy any product the manufacturer is expected to factor in their profit from the price of the object, and eats any costs in development or defects.  Defense contracts should be no different. 3 classic examples of GREAT defense design are the P-51, the U2 &amp; the SR-71.  All of which had their basic designs completed in a short time and were fielded in short order. If you can’t do it right the first time, get out of the business.<br />
On the missle defense side of it, would losing L.A. be that much of a loss?</p>
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		<title>By: Wembley</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/10/29/butter-not-guns-for-the-next-four-years/#comment-87594</link>
		<dc:creator>Wembley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a fundamental mistake here: since when did having a strong military mean the same thing as high defense spending?
If you look at the rest of the world, you&#039;ll see that there correlation is slight. And then you might look at where all the billions in the current defense budget are going in the US.
A good president will be able to strengthen the military and reduce spending on the world&#039;s largest pork barrel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a fundamental mistake here: since when did having a strong military mean the same thing as high defense spending?<br />
If you look at the rest of the world, you’ll see that there correlation is slight. And then you might look at where all the billions in the current defense budget are going in the US.<br />
A good president will be able to strengthen the military and reduce spending on the world’s largest pork barrel.</p>
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		<title>By: moebius22</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/10/29/butter-not-guns-for-the-next-four-years/#comment-78267</link>
		<dc:creator>moebius22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In his farewell address President George Washington &quot;warned against bitter partisanship in domestic politics and called for men to move beyond partisanship and serve the common good.&quot;
This site would be better served staying above the always constant partisan fray regarding military procurement.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his farewell address President George Washington “warned against bitter partisanship in domestic politics and called for men to move beyond partisanship and serve the common good.“<br />
This site would be better served staying above the always constant partisan fray regarding military procurement.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Smith</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/10/29/butter-not-guns-for-the-next-four-years/#comment-87593</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DOD &amp; the Armed Forces will be reduced to being just a domestic gendarme force like Mexico with maybe enough troops to perform UN Peace Keeping missions like Canada. If you could combine the Mexican military mission with the Canadian model,you&#039;ll see where our defense is going under Obama &amp; the Democrats. The only thing you&#039;ll need to &quot;police&quot; America is high tech surveillance devices. You don&#039;t need high tech F-22&#039;s or F-35&#039;s to shoot down domestic Piper Cubs &amp; other private civilian aircraft. Peace will be declared in Iraq &amp; Afghanistan,Osama will be captured(&amp; die in captivity before he can be brought to &quot;justice&quot;) or be killed(even though he&#039;s been dead since 2001).
The big battle will be to keep Obama protected from those damn &quot;white racist assassins&quot; &amp; militia members in a return to a 1990&#039;s &quot;Back to the Future&quot; scenario that will no doubt require martial law.
People laugh today at my scenarios because they hope that McCain can still be elected.But if Obama is elected &amp; the democrats finally get over 60 senators &amp; more congressmen for a death grip on congress..... Defense dollars &amp; manpower will be redirected for domestic control.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DOD &amp; the Armed Forces will be reduced to being just a domestic gendarme force like Mexico with maybe enough troops to perform UN Peace Keeping missions like Canada. If you could combine the Mexican military mission with the Canadian model,you’ll see where our defense is going under Obama &amp; the Democrats. The only thing you’ll need to “police” America is high tech surveillance devices. You don’t need high tech F-22’s or F-35’s to shoot down domestic Piper Cubs &amp; other private civilian aircraft. Peace will be declared in Iraq &amp; Afghanistan,Osama will be captured(&amp; die in captivity before he can be brought to “justice”) or be killed(even though he’s been dead since 2001).<br />
The big battle will be to keep Obama protected from those damn “white racist assassins” &amp; militia members in a return to a 1990’s “Back to the Future” scenario that will no doubt require martial law.<br />
People laugh today at my scenarios because they hope that McCain can still be elected.But if Obama is elected &amp; the democrats finally get over 60 senators &amp; more congressmen for a death grip on congress.…. Defense dollars &amp; manpower will be redirected for domestic control.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/10/29/butter-not-guns-for-the-next-four-years/#comment-87590</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be the reincarnation of president Jimmy Carter.  He&#039;ll cut every military program, work to destroy the morale of the military and at the same time work to suborn and overthrow our allies while supporting our enemies, then be shocked, just shocked, that our enemies are really not the &quot;misunderstood&quot; people that he and his advisers thought.  Unlike him, the Mullahs&#039; really DO believe what they say and really do plan to do it.
If we&#039;re really lucky he&#039;ll chop the crap of out the military, then start the fight he promised with 170 million Pakistanis armed with nukes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be the reincarnation of president Jimmy Carter.  He’ll cut every military program, work to destroy the morale of the military and at the same time work to suborn and overthrow our allies while supporting our enemies, then be shocked, just shocked, that our enemies are really not the “misunderstood” people that he and his advisers thought.  Unlike him, the Mullahs’ really DO believe what they say and really do plan to do it.<br />
If we’re really lucky he’ll chop the crap of out the military, then start the fight he promised with 170 million Pakistanis armed with nukes.</p>
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		<title>By: Total</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2008/10/29/butter-not-guns-for-the-next-four-years/#comment-78262</link>
		<dc:creator>Total</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;earn how to be comunity organizers.&quot;
Can he send all the blog commenters to grammar school?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“earn how to be comunity organizers.“<br />
Can he send all the blog commenters to grammar school?</p>
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