Comments on: Next Tanker Round Option: Price Shootout

By: Bill

Bill — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:42:44 +0000

Does anyone else have a problem with buying foreign equipment for our defense when we make it here?
Obama will buy the Boeing plane because of the recession. There is no way they could justify a buying foreign plane and modifying it here.
The Boeing plane can be modified to meet the requirement which is done all the time. Id rather see the money go here than into pockets of those that caused this mess, at lease we get a plane.
Jobs=Votes

By: Sgt JFK

Sgt JFK — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:12:23 +0000

If we are looking at this from a “We need manufacturing jobs in the US” point. You have to go with the KC-45. Boeing has more than enough work to do for the forseeable future (777 and 787 orders). the KC-45 would mean jobs in a new factory down south.

By: DC2 Jennings

DC2 Jennings — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:12:14 +0000

OK, so Obama is going to buy the KC-30 because he is a Euro-France loving liberal. He is going to buy the KC-767 because of the powerful Boeing lobby in his homestate, apparently again because of his liberal genes. Now he will be buying both because he is a flip flopping, can’t make a black and white decision, liberal.
Interesting. Now I know why liberals can be both facist and communist at the same time.
DC2

By: /sea/

/sea/ — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:18:31 +0000

Watch the Obama Administration try and buy BOTH planes. It will be a glaring example of Obama

By: DC2 Jennings

DC2 Jennings — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:51:46 +0000

My bad, you said 21st century. Strike SR-71 and replace with “we’re screwed”.
DC2

By: DC2 Jennings

DC2 Jennings — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:50:34 +0000

pfcem,
The answer to your last question would be yes. I do believe the SR-71 came in under time and under budget.
But alas, that was when “The Greatest Generation” was in charge. Now we have the me first baby boomers that are concerned about their corporate profits or trying to find a way to go from the military to civilian life as easily as possible.
Oh, and less government oversight and even less money to fund said oversight. But hey, we got our tax breaks from a smaller government.
The miners in the Crandal (sp) Mine are just as happy about the reduction in MSA oversight as well.
DC2

By: pfcem

pfcem — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:25:30 +0000

Young & Gates are STILL trying to pull a fast one.
The KC-30 DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS — it was NOT “technically compliant” (that is not to say with more work it could not be). Read the GAO ruling on Boeing’s protest!
The 800+ requirements WERE weighted. They were weighted as general groups rather than individually. And guess what, the KC-767AT not only meet (& was found to be superior in) MORE requirements but (generally speeking) those which it was found to be superior in were in groups weighter HIGHER than those the KC-30 was found superior in…
I ask again, does the $15.4 billion include the over $5 billion that the KC-X source selection team INAPROPRIATELY added to Boeing’s bid?
Oh yeah, let’s ignor life cycle cost since the DIFFERENCE in total life cycle cost between the KC-767AT & the KC-30 could be as high as the total developement & procurements costs…Don’t give me this BS that calculating life cycle cost is too difficult, have they gotten ANY developement &/or procurement cost right for ANY major military program in the 21st century?

By: DC2 Jennings

DC2 Jennings — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:04:43 +0000

HPC,
I agree with you, so what’s your point?
Drake is right. We need manufacturing jobs here in America.
Maybe the more important question with regards to the KC-X is which Boeing airplane would be the best suited to the Air Force’s needs. It would seem to me the 777 or 787 is a better aircraft than the 767.
DC2

By: Drake

Drake — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:49:05 +0000

The deal was rigged in favor of Boeing from the start, regardless of which president was in office. This deal is going to provide certain states with vital manufacturing jobs.

By: HPC

HPC — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:35:36 +0000

Where is Boeing’s HQ? Who does Obama represent? Who does Obama want to help?
Don’t be naive. This program is not about selecting the best plane based on some objective merits, it is about other things, and not what is best for the war fighter.
Boeing has more Congressional support already, but Obama being in the WH only makes Boeing’s ‘win’ even more certain, for all those reasons.
If somehow, NOC/EADS does win outright, I will be shocked, and my faith in large ticket procurements will be restored.