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Home » Nukes » Russia’s Waving its Missiles Around Again…

Russia’s Waving its Missiles Around Again…

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From the head­lines at Military​.com:

Russia will deploy mis­siles near NATO mem­ber Poland in response to U.S. mis­sile defense plans, President Dmitry Medvedev said Wednesday in his first state of the nation speech.

Medvedev also sin­gled out the United States for crit­i­cism, cast­ing Russia’s war with Georgia in August and the global finan­cial tur­moil as con­se­quences of aggres­sive, self­ish U.S. poli­cies.

He said he hoped the next U.S. admin­is­tra­tion would act to improve rela­tions. In a sep­a­rate telegram, he con­grat­u­lated Barack Obama on his elec­tion vic­tory and said he was hop­ing for “con­struc­tive dia­logue” with the incom­ing U.S. pres­i­dent.

Medvedev also pro­posed increas­ing the Russian pres­i­den­tial term to six years from the cur­rent four, a major con­sti­tu­tional change that would fur­ther increase the power of the head of state and could deepen Western con­cern over democ­racy in Russia.

The pres­i­dent said the Iskander mis­siles will be deployed to Russia’s Kaliningrad region, which lies between Poland and the ex-​​Soviet repub­lic of Lithuania on the Baltic Sea, but did not say how many would be used. Equipment to elec­tron­i­cally ham­per the oper­a­tion of prospec­tive U.S. mis­sile defense facil­i­ties in Poland and the Czech Republic will be deployed, he said.

He did not say whether the short-​​range Iskander mis­siles would be fit­ted with nuclear war­heads and it was not clear exactly when the mis­siles would be deployed.

“Mechanisms must be cre­ated to block mis­taken, ego­is­ti­cal and some­times sim­ply dan­ger­ous deci­sions of cer­tain mem­bers of the inter­na­tional com­mu­nity,” he said shortly after start­ing the 85-​​minute speech, mak­ing it clear he was refer­ring to the United States.

The pres­i­dent said Georgia sparked the August war on its ter­ri­tory with what he called “bar­baric aggres­sion” against Russian-​​backed South Ossetia. The con­flict “was, among other things, the result of the arro­gant course of the American admin­is­tra­tion, which did not tol­er­ate crit­i­cism and pre­ferred uni­lat­eral deci­sions.“

Medvedev also painted Russia as a coun­try threat­ened by grow­ing Western mil­i­tary might.

– Christian

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  1. Deus Vult says:
    November 5, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    This looks to be a bit of polit­i­cal the­ater on the part of Russia with lit­tle real mil­i­tary sig­nif­i­cance. Of course, the GBI deploy­ment to Poland looks to be a bit of polit­i­cal the­ater with lit­tle real mil­i­tary sig­nif­i­cance (at least for the fore­see­able future) on the part of the US, so it bal­ances out.

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  2. Hibby says:
    November 5, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Now, I’m not say­ing America hasn’t done any­thing to antag­o­nize the Russians. Far from it. But I still think its funny that every time they do some­thing antag­o­nize us, or they respond and esca­late the dete­ri­o­ra­tion of diplo­matic rela­tions, they always blame it on us. The Russian gov­ern­ment is just a bunch of hypocrites.

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  3. Byron Skinner says:
    November 5, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Good Evening Folks,
    This appears to be Russia doing some provoca­tive behav­ior for the sake of domes­tic pol­i­tics. President Medvedev know that the eco­nomic melt down is going to hit the Russian “Joe the Plumber” soon, a mil­i­tary cri­sis that he can lay on provo­ca­tion by the United States can divert pub­lic atten­tion for the eco­nomic prob­lems.
    The intru­sion into Georgia didn’t do the trick so he and Putin have to up the game a bit. Time is run­ning out for Russia. Oil rev­enues have dropped, the cash stock pile from $140,00 a bar­rel oil will run out by Spring and the Russian peo­ple when not under a dic­ta­tors thumb can be quite rest­less after the snow melts.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner

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  4. Factory.Idiot says:
    November 5, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    I won­der what the US would to, or how the US would feel if the Ruskies put a missle base near US soil? Oh yeah they did try that.
    The Russians have every rea­son to feel threat­ened by mis­siles and track­ing sta­tions planted firmly on its board­ers.
    Its his­tory, and as far as hyp­ocrites go, the US is no bet­ter then any­one else, they just think they are.

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  5. Seraphiel says:
    November 6, 2008 at 12:27 am

    @Byron Skinner.… Please wake up after your hiber­na­tion. We all know now that Russia wasn’t the agres­sor in Georgia and that we have to thank Russia for pro­tect­ing Osssetians against a sec­ond attempt of mas­sive geno­cide from a fascis­tic Georgian gov­ern­ment.
    It is also quite clear now that the US has used NATO to deploy anti-​​russian gov­ern­ments into almost all for­mer soviet-​​states. Something that under­mines democ­racy totally. Now the US is clos­ing the NATO belt around Russia by let­ting the Ukraine and Georgia with their two amer­i­can pup­pets into NATO. In addi­tion the US places mis­siles clearly not mend to pro­tect against Iran alone in Poland. Something the major­ity of the Polish cit­i­zens strongly dis­agree on. But hey! They are in the EU (which can be called for USSR-​​2) and the EU is by now best known for not lis­ten­ing to their cit­i­zens. How many more rea­sons you want for Russia to defend them­selves from a para­noid maniac called George W. Bush. Lets hope Obama is a bit more con­struc­tive in stead of destruc­tive when it comes to the dis­gust­ing US for­eign policy.

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  6. Vstress says:
    November 6, 2008 at 4:58 am

    Seraphiel… what planet are you liv­ing on? Or is it Russia per-​​chance?
    Since when was the EU any­thing like the USSR? I don’t recall feel­ing like I wasn’t allowed to draw pic­tures of peo­ple who weren’t smil­ing!
    Sure there are con­trols and they are increas­ing… in pos­si­bly a bad way. But I am allowed to speak out about this mat­ter! I can cast a free vote!
    You said: “How many more rea­sons you want for Russia to defend them­selves from a para­noid maniac called George W. Bush.“
    Defend them­selves against what may I ask?
    US invad­ing Russia… are you insane? If this is the gen­eral per­cep­tion of the aver­age Rooskie… it sounds a lot like para­noid Stalinist thought!
    If you even want proof of the fact that the US doesn’t want to med­dle with Russia… look at your own exam­ple with Georgia… the US stepped back and did nothing!!

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  7. Vstress says:
    November 6, 2008 at 5:07 am

    Seraphiel a quick ques­tion… do you have any idea when Russia plans to improve on it’s OWN for­eign pol­icy by allow­ing peo­ple to vote for the right per­son a FREE elec­tion?
    I have rela­tions that live in Latvia (hav­ing fam­ily roots from there)… going back there, well, I don’t recall any­one lik­ing any Russians! Neither to I recall any­one from coun­tries that sur­round Russia really enjoy­ing hav­ing them as their neigh­bour!
    Last time I heard… Canada and America were happy… never heard too much of a squab­ble between them and Mexico…
    sure the US aren’t great… but then again they are doing bet­ter than Russia! Shout some hatred against them for a change! Try to ini­ti­ate change in Russia!… End the cor­rup­tion, etc.
    Oh right… you can’t really… there is no real free speech.

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  8. DC2 Jennings says:
    November 6, 2008 at 6:51 am

    What no “we’re screwed because Obama will be President” com­ments? It must be because we still have faith in Bush being able to look into Putin’s eyes and see his soul.
    Russia is pos­tur­ing and sabre rat­tling now that they have an econ­omy again thanks to oil. Yet another state spon­sor of ter­ror­ism that we sup­port with the almighty gas tank. Other than that, no big deal.
    Georgia called the Russians bluff and took it up the chooch. I hope they learned their les­son.
    DC2

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  9. Andre says:
    November 6, 2008 at 7:20 am

    Georgia called the Russians bluff and took it up the chooch. I hope they learned their les­son.
    DC2
    Posted by: DC2 Jennings at November 6, 2008 06:51 AM
    DC2,
    I like your sarcasm.

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  10. Chris says:
    November 6, 2008 at 8:37 am

    From a tac­ti­cal stand­point, doesn’t it seem a lit­tle stu­pid for Russia to put mis­siles right next to the US *mis­sile defense* radars and inter­cep­tors? As sev­eral peo­ple have already stated, this is a polit­i­cal move an noth­ing else. Russia just wants to make sure we know that they know what we’re doing… with me?

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  11. VileFather says:
    November 6, 2008 at 10:06 am

    “The Russians have every rea­son to feel threat­ened by mis­siles and track­ing sta­tions planted firmly on its board­ers.“
    I always won­dered why the bloody hype with plant­ing DEFENSIVE mis­siles on a coun­try next to Russia.
    I would under­stand Russia’s para­noia if those mis­siles were OFFENSIVE tac­ti­cal nuclear weapons.
    I would under­stand too, if the US placed a defen­sive type of mis­sile that could be replaced by an offen­sive type, used to strike.
    But ladies and gen­tle­man, what we really have here is 10 mere inter­cep­tors, com­pletely use­less crap against a nuclear strike by Russia, not only in quan­tity of mis­siles, but also in qual­ity, as I seri­ously doubt they could shoot down an advanced Topol M, not even get­ting near it

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  12. Brian says:
    November 6, 2008 at 11:30 am

    I’ve won­dered why Russia is wor­ried about a token BMD sys­tem. The only answer I’ve got is that per­haps their mis­siles aren’t as effec­tive as we might think.

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  13. Byron Skinner says:
    November 6, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Good Morning Seraphiel,
    I’m not use to all this agree­ment here so bare with me. First of all I agree with you about George Bush, since I’m not an MD I will have to take your word on the med­ical diag­no­sis of our President.
    Now regard­ing NATO as wrap­ping Russia with all those democ­ra­cies, I find it hard to believe that NATO can exert that much influ­ence over the for satel­lite coun­tries of the for­mer Soviet Union. I think you have what we call in the west a chicken before the egg prob­lem. The demo­c­ra­tic gov­ern­ments came first and then request to join NATO.
    As for NATO if you have been watch events in Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan of the past few years where NATO’s lack of any com­bat pow­ers with out the United States should seem obvi­ous. As stated in other posts the likely hood of the U.S. invad­ing Russia or for that mat­ter get­ting involved in any dis­pute with Russia in a third party coun­try even for the Bush admin­is­tra­tion is remote.
    The mis­sile defense units in Poland was a rather stu­pid idea on the part of the Bushies and my guess was more for domes­tic polit­i­cal con­sump­tion. The sys­tem that is pro­posed would be use­less against the SRBM’s, IRBM’s and cruise mis­siles that the Russians have in abun­dance. Other then for domes­tic polit­i­cal I fail to see any legit­i­mate con­cern on the part of Russia on this issue. The cur­rent eco­nomic con­di­tions in the United States will almost cer­tainly dic­tate the can­ce­la­tion of mis­sile defense early in the com­ing Obama admin­is­tra­tion.
    In short Seraphiel what Russia is doing is no more then a replay of the polit­i­cal the­atre of the Cold War era. What the real­ity is, is that the United States is the only coun­try in the world which has a full spec­trum mil­i­tary strike abil­ity in the world. The good news is that the United States has shown great restraint is using that abil­ity even in Afghanistan and Iraq.
    If Putin and Medvedev insist on going back to the old Soviet Days of using up to 27% of GNP for military,defense spend­ing, I use GNP instead of the more com­mon GDP in refer­ring to Russia because the account­ing of GNP applies bet­ter to Russia, thats Russia’s busi­ness even if it will lead to, well we all know how Russia solves domes­tic prob­lems.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner

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  14. stephen russell says:
    November 6, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    I agree with blog­ger: BMD Time, Star Wars & Now we face COLD WAR 2.
    (unless Cuba OKs Russian bombers in Cuba vs 1962 style mis­siles IRBMs.
    Cold War 2.

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  15. DC2 Jennings says:
    November 7, 2008 at 6:53 am

    Thanks for the obili­ga­tory com­ment Wes.
    DC2

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  16. Gaz says:
    November 9, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    What about the Iranian prob­lem?
    How come no offen­sie action has been taken against them, wheb arguably the threat of Iran’s nuclear pro­gramme is far more deadly to the West in the long term com­paed to Iraq?
    Is the rea­son for non-​​action:
    1) Due to the unwill­ing­ness to over stretch US/​coalition forces?
    2) Risk of more neg­a­tive pub­lic opin­ion for the Bush admin­is­tra­tion?
    3) Fear of wider reprisals from the Islamic nations?
    4) The appa­rantly increas­ing mil­i­tary capa­bil­ity of Iran (sup­ported by Russian technology)to defend itself from cruise missile/​air strikes?
    5) The threat of desta­bil­is­ing the whole region and a retal­i­tion against US assets in the region as well as Israel?
    Come on guys what do you think? A nuclear armed Iran will rep­re­sent the biggest men­ace to the west that we have ever seen. Why have the west been so reluc­tant to inter­vene militarily?

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  17. Gaz says:
    November 9, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    What about the Iranian prob­lem?
    How come no offen­sive action has been taken against them, when arguably the threat of Iran’s nuclear pro­gramme is far more deadly to the West in the long term com­pared to Iraq?
    Is the rea­son for non-​​action:
    1) Due to the unwill­ing­ness to over stretch US/​coalition forces?
    2) Risk of more neg­a­tive pub­lic opin­ion for the Bush admin­is­tra­tion?
    3) Fear of wider reprisals from the Islamic nations?
    4) The appar­ently increas­ing mil­i­tary capa­bil­ity of Iran (sup­ported by Russian tech­nol­ogy) to defend itself from cruise missile/​air strikes?
    5) The threat of desta­bil­is­ing the whole region and retal­i­a­tion against US assets in the region as well as Israel?
    Come on guys what do you think? A nuclear-​​armed Iran will rep­re­sent the biggest men­ace to the west that we have ever seen. Why have the west been so reluc­tant to inter­vene militarily?

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