Comments on: Army Aviation Accidents Top $16 Billion

By: Josh

Josh — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:44:04 +0000

We need to improve on these crshes with more military technogly

By: Dougo

Dougo — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:27:52 +0000

Sir: I would like to know how many Military personnel of all serviced,have died in 2008 serving through out the world? Of accident on or off duty?
I believe we have post in other country. Thanx..

By: Cole

Cole — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:41:46 +0000

“The mishaps have lead to 2,856 deaths.“
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I questioned this “fact” and found a Congressional Research Service study from 2002 that indicated that between 1980 and 2000, there were in fact 2,863 deaths associated with military aviation accidents.…ACROSS ALL 4 SERVICES. The Army had 553, compared to 1153 for the USAF, 494 for the Marines, and 665 for the Navy.
In addition, comparing HELICOPTER accidents, between 1991 and 2001, the USAF helicopter fleet experienced 2.93 Class A accidents per 100,000 hours and the Marine experienced 2.84 Class As. The Army, according to this study, experienced 1.98 accidents per 100,000 hours in its nearly all helicopter fleet.

By: Cole

Cole — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:40:14 +0000

SMsgMac, nope on other articles or official/rumored information.
But a google search for Army Class A accident information, blocked my access due to insufficient security certificate as I assume it would anyone else. That leads me to believe the information was gained via the freedom of information act. Why was only Army aviation of interest and why was money even an issue instead of the lives involved?
The 12 years vs 22 years is also important. If it was only $16 billion since 1986, that isn’t much moneywise…not that it should matter. Anytime money comes up, I smell an implication of waste or malfeasance by some.
Or maybe I’m paranoid. Our guys are pros and America is lucky to have them and their aircraft, just like in all the services.

By: SMSgt Mac

SMSgt Mac — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:21:28 +0000

Cole, A question:
Where are you getting anything in the article that indicated anyone thought ‘hotdogging’ was involved or that there was any agenda going on? Safety stats are routinely compiled and info used to promote safety and drive down the accident rate. there had to be no one looking for this information for it to come out. Perhaps there another article someplace that provided context for what stimulated your statement– something else we should know about?

By: Cole

Cole — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:25:20 +0000

Correction: CSAR-X is only a $15 billion program…mixed it up with KC-X.
Wonder if the $16 billion claimed accident expense was just in the past 12 years as stated in one place, or since 1986 (22 years), as a year cited elsewhere?

By: SMSgt Mac

SMSgt Mac — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:48:36 +0000

Which should remind everyone (once again) that just being in the military and doing the job isn’t the safest thing in the world.
It may not have been one piece of equipment involved. It could have been a collision or an accident in a building with multiple items inside destroyed/damaged or just one expensive building. If it was just one aircraft involved, off the top of my head I think the only Army asset that might be in that price range would be the RC-12. One did crash in Europe a few years ago

By: WiseGuy1020

WiseGuy1020 — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:11:53 +0000

anybody know what happened with the $62.4 million accident? like equipment involved?