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Commando Surge for The Stan

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My boy Gordon Lubold called me and told my his paper, the Christian Science Monitor, finally ran his story on a surge of SF for Afghanistan and the internal debates going on within the community that the current commando force isn’t being used properly, so why send more…

My take is that special operations forces are the best way to mitigate the impact of a “surge” in Afghanistan on the Afghan people. I’d rather have more culturally astute commandos rubbing shoulders with xenophobic Afghans than some specialist from the 10th Mountain Division.

Let’s see how Gordon reports it…

The Pentagon is likely to send up to 20 Special Forces teams to Afghanistan this spring, part of a new long-term strategy to boost the Afghan security forces’ ability to counter the insurgency there themselves.

The “surge” of elite Special Forces units would represent a multiyear effort aimed at strengthening the Afghan National Army and police units that the US sees as key to building up Afghanistan’s security independence, say defense officials who asked to remain anonymous because the controversial decision has not yet been announced. The US already plans to send thousands of additional conventional forces to Afghanistan sometime next year. But it is hamstrung by limited availability since so many of those forces are still in Iraq.

The deployment of the Green Berets, the independent, multifaceted force skilled at training indigenous forces, could fill critical gaps in Afghanistan almost immediately, defense officials say.…

…However, the proposal is controversial. The plan is being pushed by Lt. Gen. Doug Lute, the so-called war czar under President Bush, who is poised to release a set of recommendations for how to reverse the deteriorating security situation in Afghanistan in coming days. Defense officials say General Lute believes the deployment of the Green Berets could go a long way toward making up for a significant shortfall in the number of troops needed in the region.

Yet many within the tightly knit Special Forces community say the Special Forces teams already in use in Afghanistan should be employed far more effectively before any new teams, which number about a dozen men each, are deployed.

“I just don’t think it’s a very good use of the units if they are not going to be doing combat advising in an effective way,” says one Special Forces officer with recent experience in Afghanistan. “I don’t know any Special Forces who think that’s really what we need over there.”

“Textbook” operations for Special Forces dictates that the 12-man teams, known as Operational Detachment Alpha teams, or ODAs, should be paired with units of at least a few hundred Afghan security force soldiers.

But in many cases, the Green Berets are paired with much smaller groups of Afghan forces, sometimes even one-on-one. In other cases, they are used to man checkpoints, say some Special Forces officers.

Critics worry that Lute’s plan is to simply send more Special Forces units to Afghanistan without a coherent plan to support them. “Don’t just throw ODAs out there as an answer,” says another senior officer. “That’s just the easy, lazy answer out there.”

There are other gripes with the way the teams now deployed to Afghanistan are being used.

Too few of the Special Forces teams are partnered with Afghan forces for longer than, say, a month at a time, creating an unsustainable and unproductive training relationship that runs counter to Special Forces doctrine.

Special Forces officers blame the problems on a lack of a coherent strategy for using the Green Berets in Afghanistan. Others say some Special Forces teams operate under NATO commanders from other countries and don’t know how to employ the teams properly.

Perhaps most significant, Special Forces officers and experts say it would be a waste of time and resources to send additional Special Forces teams to Afghanistan unless there is a “surge” of helicopters, remote-controlled aircraft for surveilling the enemy, and other “enablers” to allow the teams that are there now to be more effective.

Roger Carstens, a retired Special Forces officer who is now a senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security, a think tank in Washington, visited Afghanistan a couple months ago and asked members of the Special Forces community what they thought about “surging” Special Operations Forces.

“Everyone of them said ‘no SOF surge,’” he says. “What they need is an enabler surge and enduring partnerships with Afghan military and police units,” he says.

Adm. Eric Olson, the senior commander of US Special Operations Command, Tampa, Fla., is expected to convey the concerns of the special operations community to Gen. David Petraeus, the new commander of US Central Command.

The proposal would also include the creation of a new Special Forces command position, to be filled by a one-star general in Afghanistan this spring, whose job it will be to marshal resources to ensure the Special Forces units are employed properly.

The Afghan National Army, the pride of the country’s budding national security apparatus, and the Afghan National Police, which is still seen as largely corrupt and weaker, need help to build up into a larger, more effective force.

Ultimately, the US would like to see at least 134,000 soldiers trained and ready to provide for their own country’s security.

But trainers have been hard to come by, and the mix of foreign and US forces has muted the training effort, US defense officials say.

– Christian

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Roy Smith December 23, 2008 at 4:59 pm

Unless we perfected the “Philadelphia Experiment” & are able to bend the “time-space continuum” in order to resupply our troops in Afghanistan with more men(& women) & supplies,then sending in more troops is a colossal waste of time.I’ll say it again……& again & again…..IF Turkey,Armenia,Azerbaijan,Georgia,Iran,Khazakhstan,Kyrgyzstan,Uzbekistan,Turmenistan,AND Pakistan all closed off their collective air space in a blockade of Afghanistan AND Russia & China provided anti-air missiles to enforce such blockade,there will be no way in hell we could do jack in Afghanistan & all of those troops WILL BE SLAUGHTERED. Anybody who disagrees with this assessment also believes our economy is doing just great & the big three automakers are just doing hunky dory. Get your heads out of the sand(or assholes,whatever is applicable),AFGHANISTAN IS LOST!!!! Save our troops & get them out NOW!!!!!!!

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HFU December 23, 2008 at 8:28 pm

i say we arm the special forces to the teeth and give them the best of road vehicals the US has and let them loose.

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greg zurbay December 23, 2008 at 10:34 pm

Once again we see how the military SOP is always about HALF RIGHT. It seems obvious by the article there are a multitude of bad ideas masquerading as a plan. While there are soldiers able to innumerate problems both in present operations and obvious questions of planned operations, it is likely no one at command level will #1 LISTEN or #2 GIVE A SHIT. Why? You ask? Well, the officer can go with “the way things are done” — so he doesn’t get called on the carpet, or he can risk his job, promotions, status, ect. if he strays into the land of independent thinking. Guess which one rules.

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SGT Thomas (SOFSC) December 24, 2008 at 11:58 am

Roy you are a complete TOOL and have never looked in to the eyes of people who you have provied freedom to!!! So do us all a favor and pick up the .45 and do the right think so we dont have to read you stupidity any more

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wb December 24, 2008 at 1:59 pm

special forces teams working with the afghans? didn’t we try that in vietnam? now that we a traitor and one worlder as president i guess we will soon be treated to scenes of fleeing afghans as the taliban re-takes the place. i wonder how the pentagon will feel when it sees the new obama budget, the one that cuts all military funding by 25%. oh yeah, i guess the new gay squads he plans to form in the new army will perform just as well as what we have now. good luck to all you in the military. i don’t know how well prepared all of you are for the upcoming sellout by the democrats this country is about to experience. wonder if obama will use the afgan poppy fields to get his ass out of the financial bailout mess.

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SGT C December 24, 2008 at 5:53 pm

The problem is that you have conventional leadership in command of SOF forces. No conventional command is going to understands SOF capabilities and doctrine. If the command would stop worring about speeding tickets, uniforms and hair cuts and pay more attention to their combat effectiveness, maybe we wouldnt be in this pickle. Conventional commanders should stick to what they know or think they know, leading conventional forces.

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FromTheTop December 24, 2008 at 9:16 pm

The law within the military services was…KEEP THE POLICITIANS OUT of the WAR!
Now, the saying goes, “get the officers out of the command structure.”
Allow the troopers (ENLISTED) who know, the SOF, how to train and motivate the population into warriors for their freedom and for their country.

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Me December 24, 2008 at 11:24 pm

I am a special forces ENLISTED soldier, so I will give you the no poop scoop on what needs to be done here.
Just give us support. Give us afghan commandos that can actually operate instead of looking like little puppy dogs that need babysat. Give us the authority to strip these guys down to nothing but their training equipment and get rid of cell phones. No outside influence.
Give us HELICOPTERS. 9/10 missions either dont go because of lack of air, or are done by vehicle to less effect. We need air people. Adding more ODA’s will make it just as hard to get air from Solerno Kandahar or Bagram.
Lastly, kick these POG’s that do nothing at Bagram but go to the PX and eat burger king every day out of country. They work 4 hour days and take 2 hour lunch breaks (wont discredit them all, some are very very hard working soldiers there) Lets put the 40-50K a year we are paying them into something better.
Lets get rid of the “contractors” that walk around bagram all day in multicam and never leave BAF.
Give more support to the infantry and fellow sf guys out in the FOB’s and stop pretending that this war doesnt exist.
HOW CAN YOU GO ON A MISSION WHEN YOUR MISSION IS COMPROMISED THE SECOND IT IS LEAKED TO THE ANA?
Rant over. De opresso liber.

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sea turtle December 26, 2008 at 2:09 pm

Give up that air support.Stop allowing non-SOF commanders to “lead” ODA’s and let the warfighters “down range” do their job.Hey, its eazy to armchair quarterback the Afghan war from the safety of an armchair hunkered down BEHIND a dell laptop…did i mention more air support??&^%^Give the men and women of the Armed Forces the shit they need to get-r-done..or lets pack it in and bring the boys back home…hooyah

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Rhyno2-327 December 27, 2008 at 10:54 am

You wanna kill the “terror tree?” then you rip it out at the roots, which are in the tribal areas governed by the T-ban/AQ. Another logistics route is essential if we are to have the latitude to do or say to the P-stani’s, “stay out the way, YOU are harboring terrists, and we are getting rid of the problem”…thier claims of soveriegnty is a joke, and the dysfunctional state that is P-stan is better off being broken into little pieces. Find ANOTHER route, bomb every madrossa, compound, camp in the tribal area. P-stani’s get in the way, lite ‘em up.

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Truth December 29, 2008 at 11:15 am

People. Stop assuming that what the media tells you is correct…or otherwise let it lead you to false premises. If only two special forces members spent 1min guarding two checkpoints you can say that special forces units are also given the task of guarding checkpoints. The rammifications of all this spin-doctoring is deception. Truth is SF spend 80%+ time in US Camps and 20% in combat roles. The exception of course being the green berets who tour Afghan and spy on the Afghani police routing out corruption to the best of their abilities with assistance from the CIA. Just check out publically released docs. It’s a shame certain files are kept out of our reach(confidential) until after a time we can hold the perpretrators responsible. JFK is a good example…The US is in Afghanistan to take it over as a corporate enterprise…thats it…hence why education and security are the two big issues and not the economy. Its about control…not freedom.

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I am from France and also now teach English, tell me right I wrote the following sentence: “Gaining control over excessive sweating through surgery.”
:-D Thanks in advance. Nalani.

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