Comments on: Russia Now 3 and 0 in Cyber Warfare

By: John

John — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:33:24 +0000

The best offense is a good defense.…
Their were many agencies that this was given to and none acted, so have fun.….
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By: Brian

Brian — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:45:42 +0000

SpyGuy,
Yes I am. Curses, you have uncovered my secret!!!

By: Spy Guy

Spy Guy — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:03:50 +0000

Brian you are part of the problem not the answer. You are so wrong it is not even funny!!! Are you working for our enemies to try to subvert the efforts to reinforce our information infrastructure? I actually think so!

By: Brian

Brian — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:21:57 +0000

TDS4S, nobody will ever ever ever accuse me of being dismissive of the threat posed by Russia. They’re just a half breath away from the old style Soviet Union, and I trust them about as far as I trust a used car salesman.
Cyber threats do exist, and they do threaten the US. But right now we’ve got very little reliable data as far as where attacks are coming from, where they’re being directed, who is controlling them, etc. We don’t have enough information to go and bomb Boris Badinov for trying to hack our e-mail. You remember “we know there are WMDs in Iraq”? Amplify that. Instead of saying that there are WMDs in Iraq, say that there are hackers in nuclear-armed Russia, and that they pose so great a threat that we have to go and execute citizens of an almost-hostile-traditional-enemy-but-now-supposed-to-be-our-friend nuclear power. Political disaster. The worst scenario is that it turns into open war. How would you respond if Russia began assassinating US citizens living here? We don’t know anywhere near enough to begin a program like that. No proof.
What we do know is that government and civilian computer networks come under attack every single day. Millions of attacks per day. The vast vast majority of these fail. Now, does Russia have a secret cabal of programmers who lay in wait to attack the computer systems of another country? Is that what they used against Georgia and Kyrgyzstan? What do those programmers do when they aren’t attacking some baltic rathole? I doubt that they sit by idly and twiddle their thumbs. More likely, they engage in attacks on the US, coordinated or not.

By: TDS4S

TDS4S — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:38:13 +0000

Actually, I do know that we are doing too much all at once and doing it stupid. Everything we do, we do stupid. It’s why I got out. God forbid we coordinate effort between various agencies and departments. Sharing info would run the risk of making someone else look good and get the credit (and budget). Democracy is incapable of intelligent action (but that’s a discussion for another time…)
But this crappy system is the only one we have. So if the bad guys are interested in this weapon, do we mock them, mock the people who write about it, and mock the Kyrgyz, or do we respond with the only system we have, which happens to be terrible?
BTW, I don’t know what Kevin’s personal motivations are, and I don’t know how you know. Why castigate him when pea-brains on the hill use his articles to grub for dollars? It’s what they do, whether he writes an article or not.

By: 9billionnames

9billionnames — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:14:38 +0000

Yeah must have been terrible for the population — think of the impact for their travel by horse, for their local bazaars and kiosk shopping and all those semi-nomadic herding families that keep the country’s agriculture industry going.
One can only imagine the dire cultural impact it must have had on the bride-kidnapping and horse riding sports.

By: Muttling

Muttling — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:17:38 +0000

While I certainly agree it won’t impact the operational status of our military (or most others), I question the down play of economic impacts.
We’re not talking about dropping web sites or e-mail, but 3 of the country’s 4 internet service provides being taken off line.
Does that not wipe out credit card operations, debit card operations, WANs, etc. that utilize those lines of communications?
Sure, we could still run cash transactions at the gas pumps and go to the old carbon copy credit card machines but at some point you have to restore the ISPs for all those transactions to be processed. AND you have to hand enter those transactions. $$$$$$‘s
Not to speak of all the systems that are so heavily reliant on Wide Area Networking. Courts, major companies, police using in car computers, etc.
If it’s only a day or so of interrupted service it’s just a royal PITA. If it’s several weeks of continued denial of service it will be a huge civilian issue. Military operations will, of course, be impacted but that will be more like running out of toilet paper on ship.…It won’t be pretty but the crap will still get done.

By: Cardiac05

Cardiac05 — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:56:46 +0000

Everyone should read the comment posted by ‘TDS4S’!
They are on target!!

By: ihatefacebook

ihatefacebook — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:36:15 +0000

Consider the following:
Kyrgyzstan only recently became independent, but there are definitely strong ties to russia, still. The people are extremely eager to blame the government for any problems that they’re experiencing, and are quick to have random revolutions to replace their president.
Russia wants the US out of Bishkek and they’ve been gradually increasing the pressure on the government there. Meanwhile, the Kyrgyz gov’t dicks around with the US representation there with silly ass political games.

By: old commander

old commander — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:06:46 +0000

the comment about the georgia “attack” is not up to speed. Russia is now building a new Navy base in “Ossetia” and STILL has troops sitting on the pipeline valves in Georgia.
It sounds like
Russia has a PLAN! what do we have? Obama talking to Iran!