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Home » Grand Ole Osprey » BREAK-​​BREAK: Ospreys Grounded (Update)

BREAK-​​BREAK: Ospreys Grounded (Update)

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We’re work­ing the details now, but appar­ently a loose bolt was found in an area near the rotors on deployed MV-​​22 Ospreys which was wor­ry­ing enough to Red Stripe the entire fleet.

Colin’s bang­ing out all the infor­ma­tion he could get in a piece for DoD Buzz, but for now, that’s what I’ve got.

Be sure to check over at the Buzz for more infor­ma­tion in a few minutes.

UPDATE:All 84 Ospreys were tem­porar­ily grounded fol­low­ing the dis­cov­ery of loose bolts in a V-​​22 in Iraq.

“This is a tem­po­rary ground­ing bul­letin issued strictly as a pre­cau­tion­ary mea­sure,” NavAir spokesman Mike Welding said Tuesday evening. “If one of those came lose in flight, the worst case sce­nario you would lose con­trol of the affected prop rotor,” he said, adding that no planes had been affected in flight. “Our pri­or­ity first and fore­most is safety.”

Four planes have had prob­lems with the bolts, which help con­trol the rotors. Two of those are back in the air, Welding said. The repairs take two days, he said.

All the affected planes are in Iraq, he said, adding that the cause of the loose bolts is not entirely clear yet and inves­ti­ga­tions are pro­ceed­ing to fig­ure out why they came loose.

The Marines expect the “red stripe” notice “to have a min­i­mal impact on oper­a­tions,” said Maj. Eric Dent, a Marine spokesman in Washington.

– Christian

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  1. SMSgt Mac says:
    March 24, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Geez.
    Something that hap­pens more often on more air­craft than is ever talked about out­side main­tainer cir­cles, and a fleet gets grounded before a cur­sory eval­u­a­tion can even be prop­erly con­ducted.
    You have to won­der how much of this kind of reac­tion comes from the acute aware­ness that there are legions of detrac­tors look­ing to do in the bird you are try­ing to field.
    One is going to crash again some­day as with ANY air­craft. The Marines are in a race against Fate (the Hunter) and from my POV the world’s voyeurs seem to be pulling for Fate.
    God Bless the USMC for stick­ing to prin­ci­ples and mis­sion over pol­i­tics and field­ing the Osprey. I just wish they didn’t have to per­form their jobs under the polit­i­cal micro­scope. They gotta’ feel like the US National Soccer Team play­ing Mexico in LA.

    Reply
  2. DOUGman says:
    March 24, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Ummmmmmmm… lock­wire?

    Reply
  3. SMSgt Mac says:
    March 24, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Sorry,
    In my last post, I wasn’t clear enough on the front end. Here’s a pen-​​and-​​ink ‘Rev A’ of the first para­graph that makes more sense:
    Something that hap­pens more often on more air­craft than is ever talked about out­side main­tainer cir­cles (like an AF Time Compliance Tehnical Order, aka TCTO, or as in this case a Navy/​Marine “Red Stripe”), and a fleet gets LABLED “grounded” before a cur­sory eval­u­a­tion OF THE FLEET CONDITION can even be prop­erly con­ducted.
    Hope that makes it less “WTFO?”

    Reply
  4. Oblat says:
    March 25, 2009 at 1:40 am

    The objec­tive of the Osprey pro­gram is to get the entire fleet of 138 into ser­vice before any of them are tested in com­bat. Since the video of an osprey bar­rel rolling into the ground will be the pro­cure­ment program

    Reply
  5. Mike says:
    March 25, 2009 at 5:52 am

    It’s good that the loose bolt was dis­cov­ered and noth­ing hap­pened. It’s great that they had the fleet stopped and checked out. It sucks that things like this hap­pen but it’s good that it is actu­ally a non-​​event. We can deal with loose bolts here and there as long as things like this are kept to a min­i­mum. Sure beats read­ing about a Sikorsky crash­ing in the sea killing many after the trans­mis­sion mount fail­ure last week.

    Reply
  6. SomberoGrande says:
    March 25, 2009 at 8:44 am

    Yep, don’t buy any­thing new for the “Helo Hobos.” Just slap a fresh coat on paint on the Phrog and vel­cro some new black boxes to the dash like the old days. You wanna see some real car­nage? Just fly a div of Phrogs into a mod­ern hot LZ.
    Here’s some news for you crusty old Marine detrac­tors. We’re smarter than you are. We don’t need to stay locked in the 60s with you and your 90 kt brain and steam gauges. Four gen­er­a­tions of TacAir since then, but let’s not try any­thing new in rotary wing, we don’t “deserve it.”

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  7. Drake says:
    March 25, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    US Marine Corps avi­a­tion branch plans to invest in fighter jets, heli­copters, trans­ports and UAVs
    “First, he says, a wave of recent news reports have con­fused the USMC’s pol­icy about a pur­ported re-​​engining pro­gramme for the Rolls-​​Royce 1107C-​​powered Bell Boeing MV-​​22.
    It is true that the 1107C’s reli­a­bil­ity has fallen short of orig­i­nal expec­ta­tions, says Trautman, but a power-​​by-​​the-​​hour deal signed sev­eral years ago ensures that the USMC has all the engines it needs at a pre­de­ter­mined cost.
    The real issue being debated is not re-​​engining, but repric­ing the main­te­nance deal with R-​​R, which has suf­fered finan­cially due to the 1107C’s reli­a­bil­ity prob­lems, he says.
    The USMC acknowl­edges it needs to pay R-​​R a higher price to com­pen­sate for the 1107C’s lower reli­a­bil­ity lev­els. The USMC says it is cur­rently see­ing an “on-​​wing” time of around 450h for the engine.”

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  8. Drake says:
    March 25, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Check out flight­global, it’s Osprey day there.
    http://​www​.flight​global​.com/​h​o​m​e​/​d​e​f​a​u​l​t​.​a​spx

    Reply
  9. Wembley says:
    March 25, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Move along, noth­ing to see here…
    ..this time.
    Any Osprey opti­mist want to place odds on one of these “minor prob­lems” killing someone?

    Reply
  10. Valcan says:
    March 25, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    OH shiz.…a f22 has crashed in cali

    Reply
  11. Valcan says:
    March 25, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    ITs a new system.…it has kinks.…like alot of new sys­tems. IF our first heli­copters had killed there pilots a few times or had main­ta­nence prob­lems would it have been bet­ter for the US to say oh well f’it to dan­ger­ous helicopters…what a stu­pid idea…

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  12. exphrog says:
    March 25, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Red stripes hap­pen all the time in every mil­i­tary air­craft. They usu­ally have noth­ing to do with the air­craft itself, but some­thing like a bad lot of replace­ment parts, a pro­ce­dure in a man­ual revealed to be faulty, etc. This is a non-​​event.
    I’m one of those who may be fly­ing the V-​​22 to a “hot” zone. I have no reser­va­tions about it. It is the most capa­ble rotor­craft in the world, bar none.

    Reply
  13. Drake says:
    March 26, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Looks like Ospreys may have a design prob­lem.
    “Fifth V-​​22 with loose bolts points to design prob­lem“
    http://​www​.flight​global​.com/​a​r​t​i​c​l​e​s​/​2​0​0​9​/​0​3​/​2​6​/​3​2​4​4​4​0​/​f​i​f​t​h​-​v​-​2​2​-​w​i​t​h​-​l​o​o​s​e​-​b​o​l​t​s​-​p​o​i​n​t​s​-​t​o​-​d​e​s​i​g​n​-​p​r​o​b​l​e​m​.​h​tml

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  14. Greg J. says:
    March 26, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    I won­dered where that bolt went?

    Reply
  15. JonA says:
    March 28, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    Oblat says “The objec­tive of the Osprey pro­gram is to get the entire fleet of 138 into ser­vice before any of them are tested in com­bat.“
    I guess he hasn’t heard that the prob­lems were­dis­cov­ered on four Ospreys oper­ated out of Al Asad Air Base, Iraq, by Marine Medium Tiltrotor Squadron 266.
    In other words, the Osprey is already in the com­bat zone, and has been there since VMM-​​263 first deployed to Iraq with Ospreys in September 2007… a year and a half ago!

    Reply
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