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Home » Around the Globe » The Forgotten War

The Forgotten War

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My friend Michael Yon, writ­ing from the islands:

Until recently, Afghanistan was called The Forgotten War. The dra­matic domes­tic, regional, and inter­na­tional pol­i­tics of the Iraq war largely eclipsed the fact that our peo­ple were fight­ing just as hard in Afghanistan. Although were pay­ing atten­tion to AfPak now, off the radar screen an impor­tant and related fight has been unfold­ing in the Philippines.
At the invi­ta­tion of the Philippine gov­ern­ment, the U.S. main­tains about 600 troops, includ­ing Army Green Berets, Civil Affairs, and Military Information Support teams, Navy SEALS and Seabees, along with Air Force per­son­nel and Marines. Our mil­i­tary forces are deployed in six loca­tions: Zamboanga, Mindanao, Jolo, Basilan, Tawi Tawi, and a small num­ber of liai­son staff on Luzon. Their mis­sion is to help the Armed Forces of the Philippines elim­i­nate ter­ror­ist groups like Jemaah Islamiyah and the Abu Sayyaf Group and to pre­vent them from estab­lish­ing safe havens from which to train other ter­ror­ists, both inter­nal and external.

Read the whole thing, the details are fas­ci­nat­ing. Open this up to a dis­cus­sion on whether or not it was wise of the Philippine gov­ern­ment to boot us from Subic Bay and Clark Air Base (keep­ing in mind that the Moro Islamic Liberation Front –at the time of our expul­sion– was still rel­a­tively quiet and had yet to declare jihad on the local gov­ern­ment).
–John Noonan

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  1. Walt White says:
    July 6, 2009 at 10:51 am

    Their air force has no more air supe­ri­or­ity fight­ers and their navy still uses retired US ships from WWII. Manila is reliant on American sup­ple­ments to their mil­i­tary, so I was always con­fused why they kicked us out in ’92. Those bases were crit­i­cal in dis­as­ter relief when Pinatubo blew that same year.

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  2. flying fart proudly joned says:
    July 6, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    Nicaragua any­one? noone for democ­racy and freedom?

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  3. Tom Billings says:
    July 6, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    Wisdom in remov­ing an ally’s sup­port base has much to do with inter­nal pol­i­tics. Manila/​tagalog elites of the Philippines had been as thor­oughly split by Chinese co-​​optation in 1992 as they were by the Japanese in 1941, when Quezon was utterly sur­prised at how many of his rich­est friends deserted him as the Japanese invaded. The results now are pos­si­bly good, because it removes a major racial (yes, my dears, racism in elites against those of euro­pean descent is alive and well in many places, kept alive by rit­u­ally flog­ging the old colo­nials in polit­i­cal dis­cus­sion) irri­tant to allow­ing US troops incoun­try to help the AFP.
    It is fas­ci­nat­ing that the Philippines Army has been the pre­dom­i­nant ser­vice in an island nation with 7,000+ islands. It tells a lot about how much the Manila/​tagalog elites have to sup­press in the inte­rior of their larger islands. The Philippines Navy, and their Marines, seem to be tak­ing the lead in places like the Jolo Archipelago, where the sea is never far away, and is the major trans­port route to be watched.
    As in Iraq, pop­u­la­tion pro­tec­tion is appar­ently being tried, in a sit­u­a­tion at leat as com­plex. I have no idea which way this frog will end up jump­ing, though.
    Regards,
    Tom Billings

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  4. Hoovenson Haw says:
    July 6, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Please note that Mindanao is an island in south­ern Philippines and not a province.

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  5. JB says:
    July 6, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Being a Filipino, I would more than wel­come the return of the US mil­i­tary in the coun­try in what­ever capac­ity. The politi­cians who voted Clark & Subic out of the coun­try were all self-​​serving hyp­ocrites who spend their vaca­tions in the US and have their chil­dren go to US col­leges. These are the same politi­cians who are cur­rently sell­ing out pieces of the coun­try to the Chinese and who­ever else will give them a cut of the prof­its.
    Both my grand­fa­thers were in the Death March and fought for the Philippines. My uncles and cousins have served both in the Philippine mil­i­tary and the US military…those who are still cur­rently serv­ing have said the same thing — the prob­lem is the cur­rent government’s cor­rup­tion as well as the cor­rup­tion of some of the gen­er­als. Money that should be used to equip our troops end of going some­where else.
    WE NEED the US for mil­i­tary assis­tance but there’s always some hyp­ocrite politi­cian who say the coun­try will give in to “impe­ri­al­ism” if we allow US troops in the coun­try.
    My rel­a­tives in the Philippine mil­i­tary have told sto­ries about how they were always so close to wip­ing out the MILF/​MNLF at times when they were sud­denly ordered to stop the attack by some politi­cian in Manila.

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  6. SeaBee says:
    July 6, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    On October 23 2008, a UAV crashed in the Philipines (excuse my spelling), jihadist their acused the U.S of covert ops in the coun­try. Anyone who knows more about this story please share.

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  7. stephen russell says:
    July 6, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    I was told by a Filipino Japanese that the Phillppines Loves Americans but hate the American mil­i­tary this the boot from Subic Bay Base.
    Just what I heard.
    Maybe this local home­grown ter­ror­isim might induce them to reopen base?
    But the Filipinos Love Americans & hate our Military.
    Source claims main cause was our GIs were rap­ing thier women.
    IE the boot from Subic Bay Naval Base.

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  8. likew says:
    July 7, 2009 at 12:07 am

    The other white guy in the Phillipines
    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20578367–601,00.html

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  9. Subby says:
    July 7, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    American ser­vice men are not rap­ing philip­ine women.
    Why would they? The philip­ine sex trade is inter­na­tion­ally noto­ri­ous. I’m sure amer­i­can men are a hot com­mod­ity, bought or will­ing. Philipine men are will known to be male chauvinists.

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