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Home » Fire for Effect » Tues — Fire for Effect

Tues — Fire for Effect

Good question, great answer: Why cant the regular U.S. military organizations do anything?
US arms obsolete, forces stretched thin, strategies outdated
Marines learn to think like Airmen, who learn to think like Marines
Army “Jedi Knight” critically wounded in our “safest infantry vehicle,” driver falls.
Kiss intelligence goodbye


Band of the legendary Coldstream Guards plays Soldiers of the Queen, Men of Harlech, Corps of Drums, Thriller?(edit, too big)… Star Wars’ Imperial March

–John Noonan

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  1. WJS says:
    July 6, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    I’m embarrassed by this and I’m not even British. Can someone be vicariously ashamed for the British military?

    Reply
  2. Airman27 says:
    July 7, 2009 at 12:18 am

    They did a pretty good job. I don’t see what is to be embarrassed about. I am actually pretty glad they did this, because again they did a good job. I think this speaks to their talent.

    Reply
  3. freefallingbomb says:
    July 7, 2009 at 9:29 am

    Hats off to the article “Pentagon warns US arms may be obsolete” ! It’s a real pity that “Defensetech” never assesses the diverse U.S. American military technologies and strategies with the same unsparing realism like this author (“Defensetech“‘s own occasional praises would also sound much more objective, not like Reichspropaganda) A pedagogue’s rule: “Your ‘yes’ is only worth as much as your ‘no’ .” Meaning: If you always agree with everyone then no one takes your occasional dissent seriously.
    The author of this essay himself (“The Pentagon’s Wasting Assets”), Andrew Krepinevich, is a leading architect of the counter-insurgency strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan, not some “ignorant, biased, suspect” civilian, and he isn’t critizising merely one detail or two about U.S. American military technology, no, he’s lambasting practically EVERYTHING about it, and for doing so was even rewarded with a seat on the influential defence policy board at the Pentagon. This proves that the military institution and (genuine, profound) self-criticism aren’t necessarily two different Worlds, as many think. I’m also convinced that Andrew Krepinevich is only doing it with the best intention. It also takes much more guts to stand up against one’s own System, if necessary, than to grovel all life at its bottom. Such upright people like Andrew Krepinevich are idealists and true patriots and certainly the military-industrial complex’ (and the subversive Zionists’ in Washington) worst nightmare!
    But then again: Maybe Andrew Krepinevich can speak so freely (including negatively) about his own Military precisely because he’s a Pentagon advisor, not just cannon-fodder…

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  4. bdwilcox says:
    July 7, 2009 at 10:33 am

    Andrew Krepinevich is NOT a trustworthy source. He is a CFR flunky with a globalist agenda. I wouldn’t take this guy’s opinion with a ton a salt, no less a pinch. Whatever he’s cooking up, we’re not aware, and won’t be allowed to be aware, of his true motives.
    If you think that’s some paranoid fantasy, take a gander at this:
    David Rockefeller joined the Council on Foreign Relations as its youngest-ever director in 1949 and subsequently became chairman of the board from 1970 to 1985; today he serves as honorary chairman.
    In 2002 Rockefeller authored his autobiography

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  5. Vitor says:
    July 7, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Why embarrassed? It was quite neat and very well played. Chill out and enjoy the music.

    Reply
  6. TB says:
    July 7, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    FFB,
    One of the instructors at my most recent army school held up some random politician’s quote “The US military is the best military organization in the world.” He then asked the group “The best at what?” It took the assembled group (army and marine captains) a while to answer because the instructor was prepared with examples where we’re not the best at everything nor are we trying particularly hard to be, yet we keep saying the above quote. We’re certainly the most expensive and the most high-tech, but that doesn’t equate to “the best.”

    Reply
  7. WJS says:
    July 7, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    I never questioned their ability to play. I question their playing of music by that pedophile freak. Completely undignified for such an esteemed group of musicians.

    Reply
  8. KragCulloden says:
    July 7, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    RE: The Krepinevich article. This shows the trouble with taking devils advocacy too far…you can doom say ANY single aspect to death, which is what he is doing.
    Its hypothetical sophistry, nothing more. Does it suprise anyone that there are counters to just about every tech we field? Of course not. The skill is in applying the range of techs in a way that overwhelms the enemy’s ability to respond.
    At its most simplistic level, Krepinevich’s argument is this — bullets fired from rifles can penetrate our body armor, therefore our infantry is outdated and useless, we should get rid of them.
    Its bullshit, pure and simple. Yes there are counters, but warfare is a constant cycle of reactions — both technological and operational.
    He’s a neophyte if he doesn’t understand this, or a blatant fraud if he does but tries to pitch this reality as something else entirely. (ie: “everything we have is useless so lets give up”)
    Aside from the technogical reality that counters exist, there is the whole other issue of operationally employing those counters — which means buying the damn stuff, having them in the right place, having them under C2 when you actually need them, etc…all of which can be disrupted by military, political, espionage, and economic methods.
    Which again gets back to the *reality* of the issue, the art of strategy (from grand to tactical) is employing the full range of tools at your disposal to overwhelm the bad guys with dilemmas.
    The Red Team wargames showed above else that the Red Team had a better general than the blue team. No surprised there though, as Red Team’s leader was a Marine. :)

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  9. Chris says:
    July 9, 2009 at 10:21 am

    Point of technicality with the Guards band. Can’t be sure it is the Coldstream Guards playing. There are some Irish Guards at the front of the shot (blue plume on right of bearskin). The director(conductor) is Welsh Guards (green & white on left). Not sure of the rest. If it was the Coldstream Guards band all would we wearing a red plume on the right hand side.
    Chris

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