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Home » Av Week Extra » Japan Considering THAAD Missile Defense

Japan Considering THAAD Missile Defense

This arti­cle first appeared in AviationWeek​.com.

Japan is con­sid­er­ing adding the U.S. Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) sys­tem as a third layer to its ballistic-​​missile defenses, accord­ing to an offi­cial leak evi­dently prompted by North Korea’s July 4 tests of R-​​17 and Rodong rock­ets.

Three or four instal­la­tions of the Lockheed Martin THAAD sys­tem could cover all of Japan, says the Mainichi news­pa­per in an unat­trib­uted report pre­sumed to be based on government-​​leaked infor­ma­tion.

THAAD’s range is secret, but the Mainichi’s sources say it can reach “more than 100 kilo­me­ters (60 miles),” com­pared with about 20 km for the Lockheed Martin PAC-​​3 sys­tem that Japan cur­rently uses as the sec­ond of its two defense lay­ers. The first is based on Raytheon SM-​​3 mis­siles loaded on four Kongou-​​class destroy­ers fit­ted with the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense sys­tem pro­mul­gated in the U.S. Navy.

North Korea tried a longer-​​ranged ver­sion of the old Soviet-​​era R-​​17 (Scud) mis­sile on July 4, accord­ing to a South Korean report. The so-​​called Scud ER has a range of 1,000 km, enough to reach much of Japan, says the Chosun Ilbo news­pa­per, also close to gov­ern­ment offi­cials. That range is notably longer than the 750–800 km pre­vi­ously attrib­uted to the Scud ER.

Three of the seven rock­ets that North Korea launched were Scud ERs, two were other R-​​17s and three were Rodongs, which are larger and longer-​​ranged than R-​​17s.

The impor­tance of the 1,000-km range attrib­uted to the Scud ER may be that such a rocket would be a much smaller and cheaper weapon with which to men­ace Japan than the Rodong would be. Most North Korean bal­lis­tic mis­siles are R-​​17 deriv­a­tives, reflect­ing their cheap­ness and the country’s famil­iar­ity with mak­ing them.

The launches vio­lated U.N. Security Council res­o­lu­tions.

They also showed greater accu­racy, accord­ing to the South Korean defense min­istry. “We are aware that accu­racy has been improved,” says the min­istry.

Previous launches had shown large errors, but “much improve­ment has been made this time in that regard,” the min­istry says.

Read the rest of this story, see how the Air Force is get­ting bet­ter eyes in space, see if the Pentagon’s buy­ing prob­lems are ever going to get fixed and see if Brit engi­neer­ing is all it’s cracked up to be from our friends at Aviation Week, exclu­sively on Military​.com.

– Christian

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  1. flying fart proudly joned says:
    July 8, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    can it hit chi­nese bases in east-​​turkestan? if not its strate­gi­caly and tac­ti­caly use­less weapon.

    Reply
  2. bdwilcox says:
    July 8, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    “can it hit chi­nese bases in east-​​turkestan? if not its strate­gi­caly and tac­ti­caly use­less weapon.“
    –Huh? I think they’re more wor­ried about the North Koreans.

    Reply
  3. Valcan says:
    July 8, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    I think there kinda wor­ried about both the chi­nese and japan­ese still dont realy get along. Especialy sence the chi­nese fund and shel­ter north korea.
    fart, That was just a stu­pid com­ment you helped noth­ing.
    No its uses­less i mean who cares if those mis­siles can save mil­lions of lives. That com­ment makes lit­tle sence.
    Tell you what every man in the­ater should quit wear­ing body armor or hel­mets after all defense is useless.

    Reply
  4. freefallingbomb says:
    July 8, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Attention, every­body: “Valcan” wants only super-​​serene posters today.

    Reply
  5. stephen russell says:
    July 8, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Can U blame them when the NORKS fire mis­siles at your coun­try every now & then.
    I dont Blame them
    Id send in some ABLs too.
    Make a Japan the First All Missile Defense Nation.
    Be a Real Test case for ABM & SDI

    Reply
  6. rnacquisitionq says:
    July 8, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Mr. Flying fart,
    Apparently, you have inhaled too much of your own gas.
    A mis­sile defense sys­tem is a defen­sive weapons plat­form, not an offen­sive one. Therefore, it will not be fly­ing from Japan to east Turkestan. Instead, it will only be used to defend a par­tic­u­lar area.
    I really wish you guys would learn how to use spell check soon. I thought you had to at least receive a high school edu­ca­tion to join the military?

    Reply
  7. flying fart proudly joned says:
    July 8, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    @rnacquisitionq
    @Valcan
    i think you are the same trol.. aside i usu­aly do never read your com­ments.
    @stephen rus­sell
    like i said if this defense cant reach and destroy the chi­nese bases (nuclear weapon and first-​​strike forces bases) in Tibet and East Turkestan it is use­less unless… unless, you are japan­ese or amer­i­can polit­i­can, who will make the career by ignor­ing the dan­ger and using such “can defend every­thig” laser/​rocket/​starwars-​​satellites/​air-​​defense fan­tasy sto­ries for excuse of own igno­rance and waste of tax blil­lions.. see the Maginot line story.

    Reply
  8. A. Nonymous says:
    July 8, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    “offi­cial leak” ? We call that a press conference.

    Reply
  9. Valcan says:
    July 9, 2009 at 6:07 am

    Posted by: fly­ing fart proudly joned at July 8, 2009 09:45 PM
    No you have defen­sive and offen­sive weapons. WTF is the point of win­ing if you just say “ah F“it we dont need to pro­tect our own shores.“
    Plus these would be more for the norks not japan­ese. So while they arent talk­ing about stop­ping a chi­nese mass attack they can at least stop a few missles from korea.

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  10. flying fart proudly joned says:
    July 9, 2009 at 11:28 am

    No you have defen­sive and offen­sive weapons.–
    aaand?
    –WTF is the point of win­ing if you just say “ah F“it we dont need to pro­tect our own shores.”—
    bull­shit i never said that i said that this defense should be capa­ble to strike back inclu­sive the last cor­ner of the ene­mys friend and spender. so i said that japan­ese are to much con­serned about the defense of own shore instead to instal the multi-​​areal and inter­na­tional defense net­works together with S-​​koreans and oth­ers. so whats your point again?

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  11. freefallingbomb says:
    July 9, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    To the poster “rnac­qui­si­tionq”:
    You wrote: “A mis­sile defense sys­tem is a defen­sive weapons plat­form, not an offen­sive one.“
    On the 21st of February of 2008, a Standard Missile 3 (SM-​​3) destroyed a defunct U.S. American espi­onage satel­lite. What was that, a test of the SM-3’s defen­sive capa­bilites (since the SM-​​3 is orig­i­nally a Ballistic Missile “Defense” sys­tem, just like the T.H.A.A.D. too) or of its… offen­sive, anti-​​satellite capa­bilites?
    As range (and that includes ser­vice ceil­ing) grows, where is the clear divid­ing line between the two capa­bil­i­ties?
    If the Russians built a very very small diesel-​​electric sub­ma­rine but that could travel sev­eral times around the Equator, would it still be a coastal “defense” submarine?

    Reply
  12. BAJ says:
    July 9, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Mr. FF
    Tu sul­s­tus es

    Reply
  13. Valcan says:
    July 9, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Fart,
    As far as the Maginote Line is con­serned yes i get the point fixed defense such for lack of a bet­ter word in many ways how­ever. If they were to attack japane with a under­wa­ter nuke this would then be a huge AND I MEAN HUGE inter­na­tional inci­dent. I mean kill a few peo­ple with bombs ok. Destroy cities OK. But dude your hurt­ing mother gaia i mean come on.
    But no realy as for the regional defense its like this. Say you have a per­son come into power in south korea who wants to make his name and end the threat from the north. Well the norks say that they want to see evi­dence of this change of heart so they say dis­man­tle your def­nese and well do the same to our nukes.
    However the norks offer no such treaty to japan or japan doesnt believe them and want to keep theres.
    Its all a mat­ter of national secu­rity how can you make sure you wont get screwed by the per­son you depend on to help you? Same rea­son i dont like the idea of the US buy­ing weapons over­seas not to men­tion that it hurts our econ­omy.
    In my mind japan needs to get back to what they did unde­ni­ably well. Build up a pow­er­ful navy based around mis­sile defense ships and maybe a few car­ri­ers hell we could build them for them.
    Maybe work together on a mis­sile defense crusier or a new destroyer.

    Reply
  14. flying fart proudly joned says:
    July 9, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    If they were to attack japane with a under­wa­ter nuke this would then be a huge AND I MEAN HUGE inter­na­tional inci­dent.–
    well.. just in case but N-​​Koreans and oth­ers in this Area are a long, a very long time over this line. So noone cares about inter­na­tional inci­dents wich can be fixed by UN rep­re­sen­ta­tives there. its about the defense in a real war..

    Reply
  15. flying fart proudly joned says:
    July 10, 2009 at 8:32 am

    Build up a pow­er­ful navy based around mis­sile defense ships and maybe a few car­ri­ers hell we could build them for them.–
    ok.. let get my point right. i see the armed forces of the coutry being defen­sive and ofen­sive. defen­sive can be active and pas­sive. that what japan­ese want to instal there will be no pas­sive nei­ther active defense. i will be the line where n-​​koreans and chi­nese will ask only how to smart it out. just like the a same with a same expen­sive mag­inot line and the idea behind.
    i think japan­ese should start the “defense organ­i­sa­tion” like NATO together with other coun­tries inside of east asia (pas­sive defense pol­icy) and instal a sys­tem wich can not only get down n-​​koreans rock­ets but be usu­aly against chi­nese nuclear and strate­gi­cal treath by strik­ing in their home­land.
    sec­oind point you com­pletly mis­un­der­stand the japan­ese fleet devel­op­ment.
    first of all japan­ese the sec­ond best fleet in the world. about car­ri­ers.. well, today cari­ers are shot time out of actu­aly sea war­fare. today the mul­ti­func­tional multi role and mul­ti­mod­u­lar ships are the answer. and there japan­ese are lead­ing at mom­ment. (see their new heli­copter destroyer)

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  16. flying fart prodly joyned says:
    July 10, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Japan may deploy troops near dis­puted islands
    http://​www​.google​.com/​h​o​s​t​e​d​n​e​w​s​/​a​f​p​/​a​r​t​i​c​l​e​/​A​L​e​q​M​5​g​z​V​Z​z​i​k​4​i​R​C​i​8​o​G​U​a​V​G​h​U​1​i​p​3​dzQ

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