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	<title>Comments on: ‘Cross Strait’ Relations Changing</title>
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	<description>The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security</description>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/07/17/cross-strait-relations-changing/#comment-91110</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because China and Formosa are improving their relationship, it is a dangerous assumption that the US is somehow out of the woods.
The US and China are currently in an outright economic conflict. Moreover, their expansionist philosophy is spilling onto the Indian sub-continent.
Not only are the authors assertions spurious, they are dangerous.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because China and Formosa are improving their relationship, it is a dangerous assumption that the US is somehow out of the woods.<br />
The US and China are currently in an outright economic conflict. Moreover, their expansionist philosophy is spilling onto the Indian sub-continent.<br />
Not only are the authors assertions spurious, they are dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/07/17/cross-strait-relations-changing/#comment-91107</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hong Kong!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hong Kong!</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/07/17/cross-strait-relations-changing/#comment-91106</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Biblical Prophesy&quot;
Ignore them and perhaps they&#039;ll go away. Or possibly someone who&#039;s read the actual bible, or at least knows the vaguest bit of history and is aware that the word &#039;America&#039; post-dates writing revalations by....ooohh....lets say half a millenium.....who knows them personally will hunt them down and hurt them.
Ultimately, China is probably the hardest country to get a reliable impression on what the leadership is thinking (with a possible exception of North Korea, who&#039;s leadership usually isn&#039;t thinking). Which is why, simply because someone is speaking softly, you don&#039;t automatically ignore the big stick (or get rid of yours). That said, a situation where you actually *get* the speak softly bit is certainly preferable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Biblical Prophesy“<br />
Ignore them and perhaps they’ll go away. Or possibly someone who’s read the actual bible, or at least knows the vaguest bit of history and is aware that the word ‘America’ post-dates writing revalations by.…ooohh.…lets say half a millenium.….who knows them personally will hunt them down and hurt them.<br />
Ultimately, China is probably the hardest country to get a reliable impression on what the leadership is thinking (with a possible exception of North Korea, who’s leadership usually isn’t thinking). Which is why, simply because someone is speaking softly, you don’t automatically ignore the big stick (or get rid of yours). That said, a situation where you actually *get* the speak softly bit is certainly preferable.</p>
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		<title>By: SMSgt Mac</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/07/17/cross-strait-relations-changing/#comment-91105</link>
		<dc:creator>SMSgt Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yammering to apease the curent political currents.~Yawn~
When I want to know how many ASM missiles and what type are on a particular PLAN vessel I might read something by Mr. Polmar to get the information. When I want to know what might the PLAN be planning to do with said weapons I read....just about ANYONE else.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yammering to apease the curent political currents.~Yawn~<br />
When I want to know how many ASM missiles and what type are on a particular PLAN vessel I might read something by Mr. Polmar to get the information. When I want to know what might the PLAN be planning to do with said weapons I read.…just about ANYONE else.</p>
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		<title>By: STemplar</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/07/17/cross-strait-relations-changing/#comment-91103</link>
		<dc:creator>STemplar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only doomsday scenarios I see as remotely likely, would be a collapse in Pakistan and jihadists seizing the existing real weapons and delivery options.  The other would be Iran starting some regional war in the Persian Gulf and the possibility of an exchange with Israel.
China is all about making money now, not about pushing any ideology, and honestly what one would they be pushing?  You can&#039;t honestly say they&#039;re communist, because they aren&#039;t even close anymore.  They&#039;re more like a governmental corporate oligarchy, and anyone interested in making money isn&#039;t generally in a hurry to blow up their customers.
You want a real issue for America, let things keep spiraling downward in Mexico, that will be a real headache and a real security issue.  The latest, 10 local cops arrested for the execution of the 12 fed agents in the home state of the sitting President.  Is the local governor happy with the President beefing the state up?  Nope, he called it an invasion, of course his brother would be the latest narco king pin arrested.  There is a real scenario we would have to deal with and we won&#039;t need a single F22.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only doomsday scenarios I see as remotely likely, would be a collapse in Pakistan and jihadists seizing the existing real weapons and delivery options.  The other would be Iran starting some regional war in the Persian Gulf and the possibility of an exchange with Israel.<br />
China is all about making money now, not about pushing any ideology, and honestly what one would they be pushing?  You can’t honestly say they’re communist, because they aren’t even close anymore.  They’re more like a governmental corporate oligarchy, and anyone interested in making money isn’t generally in a hurry to blow up their customers.<br />
You want a real issue for America, let things keep spiraling downward in Mexico, that will be a real headache and a real security issue.  The latest, 10 local cops arrested for the execution of the 12 fed agents in the home state of the sitting President.  Is the local governor happy with the President beefing the state up?  Nope, he called it an invasion, of course his brother would be the latest narco king pin arrested.  There is a real scenario we would have to deal with and we won’t need a single F22.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/07/17/cross-strait-relations-changing/#comment-91102</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it is a big mess.
But, I see the Chinese leadership as very insular. They believe their own bullshit. Not that I am an expert. But then I do not think anyone here is...
Leaders who believe their own bullshit start wars. From Hitler to Bush JR (note: I am a Republican) they rush in...
Now that China has aircraft and ships going into Taiwan, they have the ability to stage a quick first strike against key targets.
Out of all of the world situations, China makes me the most nervous. They have the power, motivation and ideology to start WW3.
And if we fight for Taiwan, who will help us?  And when our people start coming back in body bags by the shipload, and the press wets their pants, will we stay in the fight?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it is a big mess.<br />
But, I see the Chinese leadership as very insular. They believe their own bullshit. Not that I am an expert. But then I do not think anyone here is…<br />
Leaders who believe their own bullshit start wars. From Hitler to Bush JR (note: I am a Republican) they rush in…<br />
Now that China has aircraft and ships going into Taiwan, they have the ability to stage a quick first strike against key targets.<br />
Out of all of the world situations, China makes me the most nervous. They have the power, motivation and ideology to start WW3.<br />
And if we fight for Taiwan, who will help us?  And when our people start coming back in body bags by the shipload, and the press wets their pants, will we stay in the fight?</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/07/17/cross-strait-relations-changing/#comment-91100</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if anyone is into Biblical Prophesy, but in Revelations, it clearly states that in the future, Russia, China and a Arab coalition will attack the US, and Israel.
What else is interesting is George Washington, who was known for his relationship with God was also shown this in a vision:
&quot;... Again I heard a mysterious voice saying,
&quot;Son of the Republic, look and learn.&quot;
At this the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth, and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia, and Africa.
Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene. From each of these continents arose thick black clouds that were soon joined into one. And throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men. These men, moving with the cloud marched by land and sailed by sea to America, which country was enveloped in the volume of the cloud. And I dimly saw these vast armies devastate the whole country and burn the villages, towns and cities, which I had seen spring up.
As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I again heard the mysterious voice saying,
&quot;Son of the Republic, look and learn.&quot;
When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast.  Instantly a light, as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments of the dark cloud, which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shown the word &#039;Union,&#039; and who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well-nigh over come, but who immediately taking courage again, closed up their broken ranks, and renewed battle.
Again amid the fearful voice of the conflict I heard the mysterious voice say,
&quot;Son of the Republic, look and learn.&quot;
As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped the water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark clouds rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious...&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know if anyone is into Biblical Prophesy, but in Revelations, it clearly states that in the future, Russia, China and a Arab coalition will attack the US, and Israel.<br />
What else is interesting is George Washington, who was known for his relationship with God was also shown this in a vision:<br />
”… Again I heard a mysterious voice saying,<br />
“Son of the Republic, look and learn.“<br />
At this the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth, and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia, and Africa.<br />
Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene. From each of these continents arose thick black clouds that were soon joined into one. And throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men. These men, moving with the cloud marched by land and sailed by sea to America, which country was enveloped in the volume of the cloud. And I dimly saw these vast armies devastate the whole country and burn the villages, towns and cities, which I had seen spring up.<br />
As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I again heard the mysterious voice saying,<br />
“Son of the Republic, look and learn.“<br />
When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast.  Instantly a light, as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments of the dark cloud, which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shown the word ‘Union,’ and who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well-nigh over come, but who immediately taking courage again, closed up their broken ranks, and renewed battle.<br />
Again amid the fearful voice of the conflict I heard the mysterious voice say,<br />
“Son of the Republic, look and learn.“<br />
As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped the water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark clouds rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious…”</p>
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		<title>By: pleuris</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/07/17/cross-strait-relations-changing/#comment-91097</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion china is following two strategies. One strategy is building military strength and playing it hard.
The second is winning hearts end minds, playing the Tiwanese ans so putting pressure on parlement to engage in political dialogue.
By playing both games China is playing safe. One advantage is that China is a patient country. They can wait for years until one of the options has the best change of succes. So maybe in the next decade or so china will play his cards....or not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion china is following two strategies. One strategy is building military strength and playing it hard.<br />
The second is winning hearts end minds, playing the Tiwanese ans so putting pressure on parlement to engage in political dialogue.<br />
By playing both games China is playing safe. One advantage is that China is a patient country. They can wait for years until one of the options has the best change of succes. So maybe in the next decade or so china will play his cards.…or not.</p>
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		<title>By: flying fart prodly joyned</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/07/17/cross-strait-relations-changing/#comment-91096</link>
		<dc:creator>flying fart prodly joyned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@STemplar
lol. yo think chinese will stop after taiwan? everyone in this world who knows chinese will tell you tht they did taiwan into a keypoint wich shows the world how far they can do before they can take a fight with other countries in this area and when not. after taiwan chinese will at first start to kick americans back from the west-pacific ocean and to play hard games with indians and russians. and chinese were always insane enought to pus the nucke-button for the show how hard their dicks are.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@STemplar<br />
lol. yo think chinese will stop after taiwan? everyone in this world who knows chinese will tell you tht they did taiwan into a keypoint wich shows the world how far they can do before they can take a fight with other countries in this area and when not. after taiwan chinese will at first start to kick americans back from the west-pacific ocean and to play hard games with indians and russians. and chinese were always insane enought to pus the nucke-button for the show how hard their dicks are.</p>
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		<title>By: STemplar</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/07/17/cross-strait-relations-changing/#comment-91095</link>
		<dc:creator>STemplar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I simply do not see China invading Taiwan nor going to war with us.  Given the level of financial investment and their desire to integrate into the world economy, it would be national suicide for them to do so.  I would let them personally.  I see no reason to waste a drop of American blood or coin in defense of Taiwan when they can&#039;t even work up the political will to declare themselves a nation, perhaps at our urging, but regardless, I see nothing in it for the US.  We are also heavily invested in China.  All this fear mongering in regards to China is drummed up by the defense lobby, retired bought off military officers, and sitting bought off politicians.  All to continue to sell weapon systems we do not need, or we don&#039;t need as many of as claimed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply do not see China invading Taiwan nor going to war with us.  Given the level of financial investment and their desire to integrate into the world economy, it would be national suicide for them to do so.  I would let them personally.  I see no reason to waste a drop of American blood or coin in defense of Taiwan when they can’t even work up the political will to declare themselves a nation, perhaps at our urging, but regardless, I see nothing in it for the US.  We are also heavily invested in China.  All this fear mongering in regards to China is drummed up by the defense lobby, retired bought off military officers, and sitting bought off politicians.  All to continue to sell weapon systems we do not need, or we don’t need as many of as claimed.</p>
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