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Home » Around the Globe » India’s Ammo Storage Problem

India’s Ammo Storage Problem

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In 1999 the Indian gov­ern­ment had not sanc­tioned money for sheds in one of the depots, so the ammu­ni­tion was lying in the open, grassy fields. Instead of pay­ing some­one to cut the grass, the prac­tice was that the grass was sold at an auc­tioned price. As is com­mon, the local farmer/​contractors form a car­tel to keep the bid amounts low and work out among them­selves how to share the money saved.

The local audit offi­cer had placed an objec­tion on the depot for sell­ing the grass in the pre­vi­ous auc­tion at a low con­tract price. So when the ten­der bids for the next sale of grass were opened, the bids were even lower. So the Commander of the depot ordered re-​​tendering to avoid fur­ther objec­tions by the local audit offi­cer who can get very petty. In the mean­time the grass had grown quite high and was dried up by the sun. It sub­se­quently caught fire and hun­dreds of crores worth of ammu­ni­tion was lost. The Commander felt that this was accept­able to audi­tor rather than the loss of a few thou­sand rupees by way of con­tract nego­ti­a­tions with local farmers.

In a sim­i­lar inci­dent in 2007 , two Army per­son­nel died and the Police had to evac­u­ate vil­lagers within a 30km radius when an ammu­ni­tion dump caught fire.

Think the gov­ern­ment would have learnt their les­son then? Apparently not. The Defense Minister admit­ted in front of the par­lia­ment today that about 85,000 MT of ammu­ni­tion was still lying in the open or in tem­po­rary shel­ters.

(Photo — From Bob Fagelson’s col­lec­tion, the ammo dump at Kanchrapara, circa 1946)

– Manu Sood, edi­tor, 8ak — Indian Defence News

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  1. Anon says:
    July 18, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Way to go, com­mies! That’s just what we all need: more gov­ern­ment bureau­crats to tell us all how to run our lives.

    Reply
  2. flying fart prodly joyned says:
    July 18, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    The vis­it­ing U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Saturday that India and the United States are work­ing “very hard” to final­ize the agree­ment on mon­i­tor­ing the end use of arms and sen­si­tive defense tech­nol­ogy that the United States sold to India, reported the Press Trust of India.
    The report said it was aimed to ensure the tech­nolo­gies were not diverted to any other coun­try.
    Clinton also said she was opti­mistic that they would get such agree­ments resolved when she was asked whether there would be an agree­ment for the end use mon­i­tor­ing of sen­si­tive tech­nol­ogy trans­ferred to India by the United States, dur­ing a visit to the pres­ti­gious St. Xavier College in Mumbai, the finan­cial cap­i­tal of India.
    The U.S. top diplo­mat arrived in Mumbai Friday night for a five-​​day visit, dur­ing which she is expected to meet with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh Monday in New Delhi.

    Reply
  3. flying fart prodly joyned says:
    July 19, 2009 at 1:11 am

    @Activon
    you couch­fighter have no idea how all mil­li­taries in this world store own bombs.

    Reply
  4. Ferdinand says:
    July 19, 2009 at 5:02 am

    I won­der how they store their Nukes.

    Reply
  5. AMMO says:
    July 19, 2009 at 8:42 am

    Well, I do have an idea of how the US stores our muni­tions, and I can tell you right now, this would get a lot of AMMO troops fired. Not only did they store it improp­erly as far as quality(keeping the grass cut, facilites, etc.), but I bet you any­thing they stored too much in one spot. There’s a rea­son USAF stores grenades and ammo in con­crete igloos.

    Reply
  6. Valcan says:
    July 19, 2009 at 10:18 am

    you couch­fighter have no idea how all mil­li­taries in this world store own bombs.
    Posted by: fly­ing fart prodly joyned at July 19, 2009 01:11 AM
    At least his post was intel­le­giable.
    And when you think about how many of the peo­ple in there coun­try dont accualy attend school or have dropped out early. India has a hor­ri­ble class sys­tem.
    Though i doubt the stor­rage of there nukes are as sloppy it shows a seri­ous gap in proffessionalism.

    Reply
  7. flying fart prodly joyned says:
    July 19, 2009 at 11:37 am

    @AMMO
    lol. realy, you have no idea about!
    aside that you look to much Pentagon spon­sered films.
    @Valcan
    still not read­ing your posts..

    Reply
  8. gruntdoc91 says:
    July 19, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    and we have an ammo short­age here in the united states​.so just pack up all this ammo and sell it here prob­lem solved.

    Reply
  9. gsak says:
    July 19, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    You would need artillery sup­port to raid the Limited Areas of Bangor or Kings Bay, and you’d be up against a full com­pany of Marines who have been wait­ing their whole career to kill some­body. I wouldn’t rec­om­mend it with­out a Nation-​​State spon­sor. :)

    Reply
  10. flying fart prodly joyned says:
    July 19, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    @gruntdoc91
    USA have weapons for 5 years unstoped bomb­ing of Irak. there are weapon fac­to­ries wich staff do enjoy a very lazy jobs by doing bombs for exports and thrd shit­holes with cit­i­zen war and wait to fill out the next USA-​​forces bomb short­age inside of 1 week.. so nope.. unlikely..
    (a same with EU, chi­nese and Russian weapon pro­duc­tion lines) ok.. chi­nese do run at full capac­ity now. they have to deliv­ery the weapons to the ter­ror­ists in Pakistan, India, Sudan and any­where else where some stu­pid farmers/​asozials/​relligion-​​idiots are going to fight “evil west­ern­ers” and their cheap exports by weapons and sui­cide bombing)

    Reply
  11. tesla says:
    July 19, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    India’s sti­fling bureau­cracy is leg­endary. There are sto­ries about get­ting forms to get forms to get forms for very minor activ­i­ties (with con­sid­er­able lag at each junc­tion). Supposedly there was a big red-​​tape reform going through India but sto­ries like this make me skeptical.

    Reply
  12. Dave says:
    July 19, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    We have a “slight” UXO prob­lem on Saipan. Apparently the US stored some 400,000 tons of muni­tions in Marpi in prepa­ra­tion for the inva­sion of main­land Japan. With the drop­ping of the nuclear bombs and sur­ren­der, they were not needed. Some of the muni­tions were cleared, but much of it remained and was allowed to become over­grown. Later, a fire swept through the area. We cur­rently have a Brownfield Act-​​funded pro­gram to clean up the mess left from 60+ years ago. One of the super­vi­sors told me this was the largest con­cen­tra­tion of UXO he had seen in his 37 years of experience.

    Reply
  13. stephen russell says:
    July 20, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Im stunned why the Pakistanis have not raided or bombed these sites Yet?
    I mean just one bicy­cle bomber & Super Boom time.
    Great show India.
    Some secu­rity,
    How much of this is in India, 70,80,50% nation­wide?
    Scary in deed.
    Or have a Pakistani gun­ship open fire on dump & keep Indian Army busy fight­ing ammo fires with ter­ror­isim hits nationwide

    Reply
  14. Sunil says:
    July 21, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Im stunned why the Pakistanis have not raided or bombed these sites Yet?
    ———————————
    Because of their own open pits.
    AC stor­age pans are beyond India’s finan­cial means and def­i­nitely out of minus­cule Pak defense budget.

    Reply
  15. Mazo says:
    September 6, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    The wiseguy “we are smarter than that” com­ments are ridicu­lous con­sid­er­ing that the US mil­i­tary with all its RFID’s and yada yada put a nuclear tech­nol­ogy on a plane and sent it to Taiwan! If the USAF is so retarded as to not know where its nukes are do you really expect the Indian mil­i­tary to bother about some ammo dump in some god for­saken vil­lage in the mid­dle of nowhere ?? Besides, with an army as large as India’s, they need a LOT of ammu­ni­tion and build­ing stor­age yards all over the coun­try side is fool­ish.
    And just because ammu­ni­tion is in a air con­di­tioned silo doesnt mean its any safer from ter­ror­ists than if it was lying in the open! They can always blow a silo up just as eas­ily as attack­ing an exposed ammo dump.

    Reply
  16. Robert Mathew says:
    September 21, 2009 at 2:42 am

    Indian defence is in a per­il­ious state of affairs. Indians are novices in all mat­ters of defence. With their bird’s brain, they can­not see beyond a cer­tain point. I do not think any other coun­tries hav­ing such an open air ammo dump . May be they are duds like their ther­moculer device or may be their hand granades of which 30% are duds.

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