The latest SCAR fielding numbers are in…
My source declined to specify which units are receiving them now, but based on the math and timeline, it looks like Army Special Forces and the balance of SEALs are getting theirs soon (and Marines)…SEE PREVIOUS STORY
My source said there are two “units” yet to receive their SCARs, but that so far nine units have received about 500 Mk-16 (5.56mm) versions have been fielded, 350 Mk-17 (7.62mm) versions have been fielded and 165 Mk-13s (the 40mm grenade launcher).
Fielding began in April and will end by the end of November, my source says. He also said that a bunch of accessory barrels, grips and suppressors have been included in the fielding as well.
About 1,400 SCARs of various calibers are set to be fielded to special operators through this year.
– Christian
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Quick! Someone teach these yahoos how to blouse their boots.
Their boots are bloused just fine. I’m in the Air Force and we’re very finicky about our blousing, as well, and I have my bloused very similarly.
Since you’re so picky about that, I would have thought you would be more opposed to the individual wearing sunglasses… in formation.
well it officialy. thaqnks to big lobby US-army have decided to became this one:
http://www.redriverrenegades.com/musket-1.jpg
Its a sad day when people refer to soldiers willing to go into harms way to sercure our freedom as yahoos.
blouse their boots???? who cares at all except some back behind the lines armchair general, i don’t care if they blouse their boots, i care if they can handle taking the fight to the enemy and can call in an air strike and manage a squad all at the same time, one who could force march 25+ miles with 90+ lbs on his back dig a fox hole and be ready to fill it in and move out in a moments notice, blouse boots give us all a break moron, sounds like you would be crying for mommy the moment a shot was fired in your direction, god bless those grunts(all branches) i love them and i pray for them all the time for their missions and their safety, “FOLLOW ME”
Obviously anyone who would point out an issue with a warrior
While a scout in 1st cav, I hsted it when I had presentation type duty. Once I even had to be colorguard for welcoming santa claus to the mall!!!!
I was thankfully released back to the line and got to be as piggy as i wanted to be….
I’ll admit that blousing boots isn’t that big of a deal in the greater scheme of things but these troops are in garrison and making a public appearance at that, with that in mind it’s not really all that out of place to be picky about the way they blouse their boots. Now if they were in the same formation in the field in either Afghanistan or Iraq then I’d say that it’s no big deal and who cares but they’re not.
Ahhh………check fire on Soda.
I believe that was a sarcastic comment.
If you follow the article the logic tree goes like this.
1. SCAR -> to be distributed/employed (in the Army) by Special Forces.
2. Soldiers in pictures are bearing SCARs.
3. Ergo, soldiers in picture are Army Special Forces (Beanies, Unit, or that group up at Meade whose name escapes me at the moment).
4. I think it is safe to assume the members of any of the aforementioned units got blousing down in the time it took them to hit E5 or above.
One, they are NOT in formation. They are simply coming to attention as the National Anthem is about to be played. Thus, the sunglasses are not an issue. Boots bloused? Non-issue. Warriors representing us at a gathering of a LOT of people, OUTSTANDING!! Remember, don’t sweat the petty stuff, and don’t pet the sweaty stuff. Hooah!!
I agree their boots are bloused just fine and within the regs. As for the sunglasses, they look like standard issue balistic glasses. As for the way the soldiers are dressed it appears they are in full PPE where ballistics glasses our required. If you don’t know what that means you should get out from behind you desk and join the fight.
I don’t really care how they’re dressed. I was just attacking Soda Jones for being picky about stuff of which there’s a gray area, and completely ignoring the rest.
As for me coming out and joining the fight, I’m currently in a unit that has mandatory minimum manning requirements set at DoD level that wouldn’t be met if they allowed me to take an assignment in the AOR, so my chain of command is not allowing me to apply for any of them.
The FN Herstal 5.7 MM Pistol 2150 ft/sec and P90 5.7 MM 2350 ft/sec Assault weapon is a beautiful compliment to an infantry solider who would be in urban contact or in a wooded area where contact is contact is usually 50 to 100 feet for contact. The I talked to the one of the people who developed SCAR when I was staying at Central command.
the round would shatter and therefore was not real good at penetration of wood or earth. That is where the M-60 7.62 was nice to have. It had the needed penetration the M-16 lacked. The problem was that our rucksack weighted 125 to 150 lb. and you did not have them with you because of the weight. If you remember the first thing the Army taught to do was run. That ability kept us alive many a time. With and M-60 you run very well so that were left back with the Captain and Luetants in the company area. They shot the shit and we shot the NVA.
I was with the 4th Div. in Vietnam Sept. 68 to Mar.29. We operated in mountains 3,000 to 5,000 ft. our ass was dragging going down the hill and your nose was dragging going up the hill. They call it a jungle we back in the US call the Smokey Mountains, there was no difference. The M-16 at that time was 3150 ft/sec. It was a very lethal round. One problem was the round would shatter and therefore was not real good at penetration of wood or earth. That is where the M-60 7.62 was nice to have. It had the needed penetration the M-16 lacked. The problem was that our rucksack weighted 125 to 150 lb. and you did not have them with you because of the weight. If you remember the first thing the Army taught to do was run. That ability kept us alive many a time. With and M-60 you run very well so that were left back with the Captain and Luetants in the company area. They shot the shit and we shot the NVA.
Dear Michael A Augur;
I doubt that you could get up and on you feet if you were carrying a150lb rucksack, let alone walk around in the woods with one that weighs that much.
Just what did you carry in your 150lb rucksack? Lead bricks?
I was in your neck of the woods just up the road North. The camp before you got to Kontum.
My entire, in the field gear weight, was way less than half of what you are talking about being in your rucksack alone.
I think that your imagination has gotten out of control.
Hope you are well.
Zandor
Now back to the 5.7 MM. The same round is used in the Pistol and the Assault rifle. It also has an armor penetrating round. I believe that would be a great round for the M-16. But being able to carry a pistol is a great advantage and not has to carry another type of ammo. I carried thirty 20 round Magazines. Resupply was never fast or close. II Core in Vietnam was two and a half times large as any other Core in Vietnam. If you had the same number of choppers you had less than half of them because of flight and refueling.
I was wounded on March 29th, 1969 thirty days in to a battle. If you Google “Operation Wayne Grey”. I was in the second two man fight positions. That means that means with replacements roughly about 400 men went out of that battle KIA or WIA before I got wounded. Fourteen WIA and three KIA went off of LZ D-Handle that day. The seventeen that was left was joining up with a fourth company that had 25 men left. They stayed for about a week before the operation was over.
I spent eight months getting put back together and my wife spent seven of the months with me every day. She shared my three mails a day so she had money left for gas and a ratty apartment she shared with the wife of the fellow in the bed next to me. We are still married and have not found anything we don’t like to fight about. She is my angel.
Michael A. Augur Retired SGT, US Army Dec 11, 1969, wounded Mar 29 1969 South Vietnam
Afghanistan Long range in the bare mountains requires a 7.62 round. The problem here is weight of the ammo reduces the number of rounds. You don’t fire your weapon for that reason. Next Afghanistan is larger than the entire lower 48 states, talk about flight time and resupply. It is never easy in the infantry. Afghanistan War Lords are there because of the distance there is no one else to protect the people. That is like Kentucky which says that you can shoot a trespasser. That is not that we shoot people at well. That law is in place because it take a long time for the local police to get back in some of the remote area. All we can do is essentially made War Lords over the two major cities by providing a police force and an Army to secure the area around those cities. Once that is done we have keep our promise and leave.
who cares dude………….you're not making any sense……………..lay off the bottle for a few hours bro!!!!!