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Home » Tactical Development » UPDATED: Details on Army’s New Afghanistan Duds

UPDATED: Details on Army’s New Afghanistan Duds

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No posts ear­lier today because I attended a detailed brief­ing with Army offi­cials about their new pro­gram to field two new uni­forms in Afghanistan to see if an alter­na­tive to the UCP is needed. We reported this ear­lier with the help of our friends at Soldier Systems, and in the inter­est of full dis­clo­sure, I need to give credit to my good friend Matt Cox at Army Times who broke the story.

Here’s an excerpt of tomorrow’s lead story on Military​.com:

The Army is set to field new com­bat uni­forms to two bat­tal­ions in Afghanistan next month in an effort to bet­ter equip com­bat troops fight­ing in the var­ied ter­rain found in that rugged climate.

For years some Soldiers had com­plained about the cur­rent multi-​​environment Universal Camouflage Pattern, argu­ing the toned down grey and green stood out in desert envi­ron­ments, rocky ridges and forested val­leys found through­out east­ern Afghanistan where most Army units now operate.

The new camo schemes include the Crye Precision-​​made MultiCam and a new pat­tern designed by the Natick Soldier Systems Center in Massachusetts.

MultiCam was designed sev­eral years ago with the help of Natick and is pop­u­lar with spe­cial oper­a­tions forces in the Army and Air Force — with some oper­a­tors already wear­ing the squig­gly brown, tan and green uni­forms in Afghan combat.

Natick also devel­oped a new vari­a­tion of the UCP by adding coy­ote tan to the pat­tern, and will field the so-​​called UCP-​​Delta along­side the MultiCam one.

“We’re try­ing not to just deal with anec­do­tal infor­ma­tion,” said Brig. Gen. Peter Fuller, chief of the Army’s Program Executive Office Soldier, dur­ing a Sept. 16 brief­ing with reporters at the Pentagon. “Just because some­one else might be wear­ing some­thing doesn’t mean that that is the best for all the environments.”

And Matt also broke the story of a 2009 study com­pleted by Natick that showed the MultiCam per­formed bet­ter than a bunch of pat­terns as a “uni­ver­sal” camo and that MARPAT, Desert Brush and a Syrian scheme killed the UCP in almost all scenes. I obtained a copy of the study and I’d like to share it with our read­ers to do their own analysis…there’s a ton of data, but here’s the jist:

Though Army offi­cials are loath to admit the UCP’s short­com­ings, a 2009 Natick study showed the cur­rent uni­form per­form­ing worse than four other com­mer­cially avail­able pat­terns in all envi­ron­ments, includ­ing urban, desert and woodland.

The study, which was first reported by the Army Times and a copy of which was obtained by Military​.com, said MultiCam per­formed best as a uni­ver­sal pattern.

“If Army lead­er­ship desires a to main­tain a sin­gle, multi-​​environment cam­ou­flage pat­tern for com­bat mis­sions, data from this eval­u­a­tion show the MultiCam pat­tern is the best over­all, read­ily avail­able pat­tern,” the study said.

The study indi­cated that the Marine Corps desert dig­i­tal pat­tern, or MARPAT, and another pat­tern called Desert Brush per­formed best in arid and urban envi­ron­ments, while the MultiCam “was not as good as MARPAT and Desert Brush pat­terns it was sig­nif­i­cantly bet­ter than both pat­terns in two out of three wood­land scenes,” the study said.

Both desert MARPAT and Desert Brush per­formed bet­ter than the UCP in eight of nine scenes testers eval­u­ated, while MultiCam per­formed bet­ter than UCP in seven of nine scenes.

Photosimulation Camouflage Detection Test

Please be sure to read the entire story at Military​.com on Sept. 17.

(Photo: C. Todd Lopez)

– Christian

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  1. Jack says:
    September 16, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Give the Army what the Marines are wear­ing!
    Oh yea, there’s some idiot army general(s) who says my sol­diers will NEVER wear what the Marines wear even if it is bet­ter than what the Army uses. The hell with sav­ing lives and money.

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  2. Pete says:
    September 17, 2009 at 1:26 am

    I have been say­ing that all the ser­vices should be wear­ing MARPAT the minute I was fin­ished watch­ing the Discovery Channel on the Development of MARPAT. I almost lost my mind when the Air Force first came out with the Blue Tiger stripes! I’m in Korea right now and I have been see­ing and adver­tise­ment on a site you can speak directly to Sec Gates… Think I might just drop him a line worst they can do is make me retire right?

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  3. al says:
    September 17, 2009 at 10:45 am

    Someone cor­rect me because I’m think­ing I am read­ing this wrong. I haven’t read that report, but the mil​i​tary​times​.com arti­cle yes­ter­day made it seem like *desert* Marpat out­per­formed UCP in a *wood­land* envi­ron­ment.
    And i sus­pect the deci­sion to use UCP was mostly recruitment/​image dri­ven. The uni­form is dis­tinc­tive and looks “cool” (put your mind in that of an 18 year old). Same rea­son they will never switch to Marpat. Its about the Army image.

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  4. chris says:
    September 17, 2009 at 11:56 am

    Issue with the study…one of the con­clu­sions the sudy had was mak­ing the PPE and LBE and such a sin­gle color. Since PPE and LBE tend to cover a major por­tion of the torso, why have a multi coloured camo uni­form, if a sin­gle color will cover it in com­bat????? Never under­stood this ratio­nal when I had to do so.

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  5. Ed says:
    September 17, 2009 at 11:58 am

    The biggest issue I have with the whole UCP argu­ment is this: We were deeply engaged in both Afghanistan and Iraq when it was devel­oped and deployed. We either didn’t see prob­lems or weren’t lis­ten­ing to any issues with them. Why all of a sud­den are we now test­ing them again?
    This didn’t seem to become an issue when the ser­vices all used the Woodland pat­tern or desert pat­tern uni­forms. I know why the UCP was cre­ated, its because the Marines cre­ated MARPAT. It set off those in the chain of com­mand with this we gotta one up the marines idea.
    When I was in the ser­vice the joke we had was if you were look­ing for us in the field, just look for the slightly green thing mov­ing out there. All I say is could we at least keep the idea of a uni­form that doesn’t need to be starched or ironed and keep those non shine boots?

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  6. chris says:
    September 17, 2009 at 11:59 am

    as a reference/​example of my pre­vi­ous post, see the photo at the top of this arti­cle. The coy­ote brown PPE cov­ers the major­ity of the blouse being shown. Hard to tell exactly what the camo pat­tern looks like, with that big brown blob…

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  7. coolhand77 says:
    September 17, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    That shirt in the pic­ture is Multicam, sim­i­lar to the new TRU or the older Crye style com­bat shirt with the “under armor” cooling/​wicking torso, and camo on the areas that would be exposed if you were wear­ing body armor. Use your imag­i­na­tion and imag­ine that shirt, with a mul­ti­cam Interceptor and pouches over it and you get the idea.
    FYI, the pouches are COTS already, the only thing they would have to make is the armor car­rier (inter­cep­tor vest) and there are COTS solu­tions for that as well. Theres also the “spray paint the car­rier coy­ote brown and hang mul­ti­cam pouches off it” approach which seems to work well as long as you use the right color/​colors.

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  8. FormerDirtDart says:
    September 17, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Clearly the report val­i­dates that one cam­ou­flage does not, and will not, be suit­able across the envi­ron­men­tal spec­trum.
    Since Multicam seemed to show good across envi­ron­ment results maybe can be used as a base pat­tern. For a Desert/​Arid uni­form develop a some­what lighter ver­sion. For a more veg­e­tated envi­ron­ment darken the pat­tern. And use the cur­rent Multicam pat­tern on the PPE/​LBE/​MOLLE gear.
    I would also sug­gest that the

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  9. slntax says:
    September 17, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    this is why i left in the army in the first place. the lead­er­ship knew mul­ti­cam was bet­ter and pick UCP any­ways. this kind of stu­pid­ity of do the wrong thing any­ways exists through­out the army.

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  10. maj says:
    September 17, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    To sum up the report: if you wish to have a uni­ver­sal pat­tern, it’s going to be half-​​assed in most environments.

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  11. Vstress says:
    September 18, 2009 at 4:06 am

    It’s like a knife… jack of all trades, mas­ter of none.
    Anyways, why were there no pic­tures taken of peo­ple wear­ing camo in in-​​theater envi­ron­ments. Surely tak­ing a pic­ture of a per­son in Iraq or Afghan isn’t impos­si­ble. Very lit­tle cost too!
    Seems like a lot of these tests are very sus­cep­ti­ble to the likes of the colour of paint of the build­ings in the MOUT. Surely a slightly dif­fer­ent brick colour in Afghan would yield totally dif­fer­ent results.
    Utterly point­less. I don’t even know what war this camo is made for!

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  12. Ed says:
    September 18, 2009 at 6:44 am

    At this point, why don’t we just go back to the old OD Greens? Seems it might be just as effec­tive in some of these envi­ron­ments. There isn’t a full solu­tion here. Afghanistan is chal­leng­ing because you can face forested areas, moun­tain­ous areas, heavy snow­fall and open deserts all in the same coun­try. The Taliban doesn’t seem to have much of a prob­lem blend­ing in for an ambush. The only rea­son we do isn’t because of the camo. We come in big hulk­ing vehi­cles or by heli­copter. Do our guys go on long road marches out there? And even if we do, its not like we are con­ceal­ing that we are doing it.
    So if we think about it, have we had issues try­ing to set ambushes for these guys and the uniform’s color has given them away?

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  13. Michael C says:
    September 18, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    All I have to say to those brag­ging about the marine uni­form is if you want a marine uni­form, join the marines. Period. End of dis­cus­sion on this triv­ial mat­ter.
    When the army devel­oped acu­pat, the ser­vice actu­ally did want a one uni­form con­cept. How ever, if you take a look at how the uni­form is col­ored and pat­terned, it is clearly not a one uni­form uni­form.
    For those who are the mul­ti­cam gear crowd, mul­ti­cam is not all that either. Yeah, the pat­tern
    looks cool, but in dry sage brush, red­dish col­ored rocks, and sand, it works as well as ACU.
    If the army wants good cammo uni­forms, then go back to the desert DCU pat­terns or wood­land BDU pat­terns. Simple, effec­tive, and avial­able. But to waste mil­lions to test another fash­ion eye­sore, for­get it.

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    • DualityOfMan says:
      November 12, 2009 at 5:59 pm

      There’s plenty of exam­ples of one branch devel­op­ing some­thing which is made stan­dard across all other branches. Why shouldn’t MARPAT be adopted by the Army?

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  14. Timothy Bokousky says:
    September 23, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    I could’nt fig­ure out why the army went ACU either, I dont really care. I’m very happy with my mul­ti­cam stuff, maybe Crye didnt kiss enough ass to get the contract.…Military gear rocks no-​​matter the color!!

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  15. Eric Bullock says:
    September 24, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    I find that all the sci­en­tific gyra­tions are inter­est­ing. But, what is more inter­est­ing is that once the sci­ence has been deter­mined, that pol­i­tics takes over. ACU are dif­fi­cult to hide in, going dig­i­tal as a good idea, but when “the sec­ond land army” gets it right, just give then credit, change the anchor and globe to a star, and move out. These lat­est col­ors are inter­est­ing, but are they really that different?

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  16. LTC (Ret) Mike says:
    September 24, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    What a waste of my tax dol­lars. Well at least we gave the desert storm uni­forms to Iraqi army and the old desert camis I wore to US Navy. A mil­lion here, a mil­lion there…
    If the ACU pat­tern does not work in Afghan deserts, why do we even have it (and in Iraq, also a DESERT), but those gen­er­als who approved it and pushed it are prob­a­bly retired. BUT, most oper­a­tions in Iraq are urban.
    Go fig­ure. Now that we have given all the ware­houses full of desert storm uni­forms to Iraq, what to do, what to do. Keep Natick and the uni­form con­trac­tors working.

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  17. Walter Corretjer says:
    September 24, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Lou : I am with you in all aspects. This UCP of ours is a piece of junk,that some­one some­where decided to buy. I con­clude also with you,that the Muticam is the best in almost all envi­ron­ments and con­di­tions, with the excep­tion that we must also get rid of all that vel­cro thing, that is so nasty, uncom­fort­able and noisy. Also those big pock­ets on the arms should be elim­i­nated, and we must used our ranks again on the arms, as they were used dur­ing the Second World War, Korea and Vietnam, when Nam started. Those lit­tle ranks, on the front of the ACU’s, and on the shoul­ders of the Class B, doesn’t say any­thing at all of the image that should be proyected by an NCO. Finally, I am also with you in regard,that we must return to the “Dress Uniform” wore dur­ing the Second World War.

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  18. Heriberto Mendez says:
    September 25, 2009 at 7:34 am

    All, the best pat­tern is what the United States Marine Corps have, MARPAT Woodland /​Desert. They are func­tional and prac­ti­cal for gar­ri­sion and com­bat. My brother is presently in Mosul, Iraq. He really stick out in the desert in his Army cam­mies. The enemy can spot him a mile away.Plus he has more vel­cro than the fac­tory that makes it. Am sure the Army brass will not go with what the Marine Corps has.
    Semper Fi all

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  19. abushnell says:
    September 28, 2009 at 11:29 am

    And why would be use what the Marines wear? Okay, their camo looks cool. Good, great, grand, won­der­ful. BUT THAT’S THEIR THING!!!
    Multi-​​cam is what we should have got­ten in the first place. It works.…everywhere. I don’t mean to bash the ACU. It looks cool, and that’s about it. Maybe keep it around for gar­ri­son use, but in Afghan or Iraq.…no.

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  20. Shawn says:
    September 28, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    THE ACU and the Air Forces ABU and what ever the hell that thing is the navy is now wear­ing are all garbage. i hate to say this being an Airman but the Marines got it right! MARPAT is hands down the best. it’s not just an opin­ion it’s test prove it. two uni­forms both com­bat func­tional. the Army now is back ped­al­ing and the few of us AF folks that do go out­side the fence never wear the ABU. oh and not to com­pletely change the sub­ject but can we get rid of this blous­ing non­sense. never do it when in coun­try. and it looks better.

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