Comments on: JSF Hits Money Wall

By: stoka

stoka — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:20:26 +0000

The US Government could have exported plenty of F22 Raptor’s to Australia and Japan. In the case of Australia, the Raptor would have been a far better choice of frontline aircraft to replace the F111 than the single engine, short range and slow F35. This may seem academic now, but in a future potential confrontation with China, this is going to be painful. Elsewhere I read a comment that Lockheed Martin killed the F22 through political influence to concentrate on the F35 and realize greater profits.
Whether this is true or not, there has been a lot of dishonesty and foolishness in respect to the decision made to stonewall export of the F22

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By: steve

steve — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:31:22 +0000

DUUUUUUDE: Seriously? Did you sleep through civics and US government classes? You apparently have no idea who controls the budget in this country. It’s the Congress. The DoD has no real say on how much money they get or where it’s spent, they can only make requests or suggestions. Congress is the entity that says you will spend this much on the JSF for this many, end of story.

By: duuude

duuude — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:28:00 +0000

Brian,
The JSF is a Department of Defense program, not Congress. As if Congress was some monolithic entity involved in initiating and managing weapon projects. You are flat-out telling lies here.

By: Brian

Brian — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:13:09 +0000

Charles, I’m not saying they’re gonna go broke tomorrow. What I am saying is that cancelling the F-35 and purchasing the Eurofighter (or some other non-American produced plane) would be devastating to them. The F-35 is a huge chunk of their business.
AMMO, if China tried to “collect” the debt, they’d be cutting their own balls off. You know who buys their stuff? Us. You know much of their economy is based on the strength of US government bonds? They don’t want to hurt the US economy. That would cripple their own economy.
Duuude, Congress has always been involved with the JSF’s requirements. Now while the initial involvement is along the lines of “we need a next generation fighter”, the fact is they’re involved from start to finish. They determine when the purchases take place and at what schedule, they mandated the second engine, they determine how many aircraft will be bought.
Congress runs the show.

By: Charles

Charles — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:29:16 +0000

Brian: I was under the impression that Lockheed was doing pretty well, as they have F-16, F-22, C-130, the Orion CEV for the Ares rocket, and probably other less obvious things.
Granted they’re a big company, but with F-22 and JSF they would have a controlling stake in the fighter business.
In the future drawing out the evaluation process is the way to go. Don’t know if th government reimburses R&D during the initial contract process or not, so it could break a company. Of course, who wants a company on the ropes making your next-gen fighters?

By: AMMO

AMMO — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:32:49 +0000

HAH! Totally called it when they canned the –22 for Over-inflated cost. Which POS is costing more now, B****es?
Hey guys, guess what? We don’t have to worry about big bad China anymore. Although, if they ever decide to collect, the USA is going to have to sell the air force and fire all its govt employees. Oh well, I didn’t like money anyway.

By: duuude

duuude — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:49:29 +0000

ho ho, so now it’s Congress fault. Since when did Congress make the Joint Strike Failure’s requirements? Brian is blowing smoke on behalf of LM. Good boy.
Seems like it’s always LM going cap in hand for ever larger sums of money.

By: operation7thwave

operation7thwave — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:49:38 +0000

Why would you want to build an airframe with the same performance capabilities and load limits as one we already have? Why would you want to put all eggs in stealth when adversarial capabilities are easily catching up with our abilities to out smart them.
I say put more money into the F16 with new build airframes, and the F15 with new build airframes, new engines, canards, and avionics. Then for the marines, lets get them new build harriers and hornets. And the navy,lets keep the hornets. both airframes the same…new engines, avionics. The way I see it, our government likes to throw money at a project and then cry foul every time the costs soar. New build 4th generation fighters not only save money, but adds latest upgrades and capabilities into an already proven airframe. This keeps lockheed in business, international customers happy, and we save money.

By: ELP

ELP — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:50:32 +0000

The biggest enemy to the F-35 program is the groupthink by F-35 program leaders.