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		<title>By: Crazy Fox</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/super-cavitation-and-the-truth/#comment-249321</link>
		<dc:creator>Crazy Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 01:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a close look at the bow of the Russian submarine Sarov. It has a supercavitating bubble dome and two intakes running the long axis of the sub just forward of the con. A caterpillar is used to produce sea water cavitation bubble injection behind the dome. 
The AIP is in fact a super compact steam generator (Fusion Cavitation) in tandem with a Kaluga KTP 7i condensing steam turbine. Suddenly a little diesel sub becomes the test bed for the new features of the Lada class boats. Other builders of subs doing similar research......gotta think outside the box and know what to look for. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a close look at the bow of the Russian submarine Sarov. It has a supercavitating bubble dome and two intakes running the long axis of the sub just forward of the con. A caterpillar is used to produce sea water cavitation bubble injection behind the dome.<br />
The AIP is in fact a super compact steam generator (Fusion Cavitation) in tandem with a Kaluga KTP 7i condensing steam turbine. Suddenly a little diesel sub becomes the test bed for the new features of the Lada class boats. Other builders of subs doing similar research.…..gotta think outside the box and know what to look for.</p>
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		<title>By: freefallingbomb</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/super-cavitation-and-the-truth/#comment-188480</link>
		<dc:creator>freefallingbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the poster &quot;DualityOfMan&quot; : 
 
 
You wrote: &quot;Do you realize that cold war warships were equipped with anti-submarine missiles which dropped nuclear-tipped torpedoes?&quot; 
 
 
If the idea is only to sink enemy ships, then there are notoriously cheaper nuclear options to accomplish that than building submarines, yeah. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the poster “DualityOfMan” : </p>
<p>You wrote: “Do you realize that cold war warships were equipped with anti-submarine missiles which dropped nuclear-tipped torpedoes?” </p>
<p>If the idea is only to sink enemy ships, then there are notoriously cheaper nuclear options to accomplish that than building submarines, yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: gsak</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/super-cavitation-and-the-truth/#comment-188472</link>
		<dc:creator>gsak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the Russians and Chinese are splitting rent on a lakefront house over on the shores of Lake Pend Oreille.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the Russians and Chinese are splitting rent on a lakefront house over on the shores of Lake Pend Oreille..</p>
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		<title>By: gsak</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/super-cavitation-and-the-truth/#comment-188471</link>
		<dc:creator>gsak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chrisram is right. Especially about the &quot;fire&quot; part. :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chrisram is right. Especially about the “fire” part. :)</p>
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		<title>By: DualityOfMan</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/super-cavitation-and-the-truth/#comment-188465</link>
		<dc:creator>DualityOfMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh. 
 
Yes, the Alfas were very, very fast. They were also loud, tiny, (1/2 the displacement of a Los Angeles class) and expensive. 
 
Do you realize that cold war warships were equipped with anti-submarine missiles which dropped nuclear-tipped torpedoes? I imagine that one of those would do pretty well against an Alfa. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh. </p>
<p>Yes, the Alfas were very, very fast. They were also loud, tiny, (1/2 the displacement of a Los Angeles class) and expensive. </p>
<p>Do you realize that cold war warships were equipped with anti-submarine missiles which dropped nuclear-tipped torpedoes? I imagine that one of those would do pretty well against an Alfa.</p>
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		<title>By: freefallingbomb</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/super-cavitation-and-the-truth/#comment-188303</link>
		<dc:creator>freefallingbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now not even I will open that new link. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now not even I will open that new link.</p>
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		<title>By: freefallingbomb</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/super-cavitation-and-the-truth/#comment-188302</link>
		<dc:creator>freefallingbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did  NOT  reduce my original link to a &quot;bit-ly&quot; ! That was &quot;Defense Tech&quot; who did that! My original link led to Wikipedia&#039;s list of navies. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did  NOT  reduce my original link to a “bit-ly” ! That was “Defense Tech” who did that! My original link led to Wikipedia’s list of navies.</p>
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		<title>By: freefallingbomb</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/super-cavitation-and-the-truth/#comment-188281</link>
		<dc:creator>freefallingbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part II : 
 
 
Of course: Russian ammunition is too dumb to turn even a little bit. That&#039;s why it relies exclusively on nuclear warheads to hit any target. 
 
 
&quot;Guidance was nonexistent in initial designs, as the missile was intended for nuclear warhead delivery. 
Later designs reportedly include terminal guidance and conventional warheads of 210 kg (460 lb). 
The missile controls its direction using four fins that skim the inner surface of the supercavitation envelope. To change direction, the fin or fins on the inside of the desired turn are extended, and the opposing fins are retracted.&quot; 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval#Design_and_capabilities&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval#Design...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part II : </p>
<p>Of course: Russian ammunition is too dumb to turn even a little bit. That’s why it relies exclusively on nuclear warheads to hit any target. </p>
<p>“Guidance was nonexistent in initial designs, as the missile was intended for nuclear warhead delivery.<br />
Later designs reportedly include terminal guidance and conventional warheads of 210 kg (460 lb).<br />
The missile controls its direction using four fins that skim the inner surface of the supercavitation envelope. To change direction, the fin or fins on the inside of the desired turn are extended, and the opposing fins are retracted.” </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval#Design_and_capabilities" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval#Design…</a></p>
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		<title>By: freefallingbomb</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/super-cavitation-and-the-truth/#comment-188280</link>
		<dc:creator>freefallingbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part I : 
 
 
To the poster &quot;pedestrian&quot;, who wrote: 
&quot;...This is why Shkval is a dumb rocket that could not be guided...&quot; 
 
and 
 
to the poster &quot;Ed!&quot;, who wrote: 
&quot;...not care of a targeting solution...&quot; 
 
and 
 
to the poster &quot;joebuff&quot;, who wrote: 
&quot;...The Soviet supercavitating torpedoes were intended to have nuclear warheads, thus avoiding the need for much or any of an accurate firing solution. The Naval Underwater Weapons Center has reportedly developed a supercavitating torpedo that is able to use good target-homing technologies...&quot; 
 
 
(Continued) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part I : </p>
<p>To the poster “pedestrian”, who wrote:<br />
”…This is why Shkval is a dumb rocket that could not be guided…” </p>
<p>and </p>
<p>to the poster “Ed!”, who wrote:<br />
”…not care of a targeting solution…” </p>
<p>and </p>
<p>to the poster “joebuff”, who wrote:<br />
”…The Soviet supercavitating torpedoes were intended to have nuclear warheads, thus avoiding the need for much or any of an accurate firing solution. The Naval Underwater Weapons Center has reportedly developed a supercavitating torpedo that is able to use good target-homing technologies…” </p>
<p>(Continued)</p>
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		<title>By: freefallingbomb</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/super-cavitation-and-the-truth/#comment-188279</link>
		<dc:creator>freefallingbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the poster &quot;DavidB&quot; : 
 
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You wrote: &quot;All these comments about noise, have you even CONSIDERED the user of such technology may care not a whit how much noise they leave behind in the ocean?&quot; 
 
 
You mean that once the SEALs are wet again, &quot;nothing more&quot; can happen to them? Or to the big submarine that picks them up? 
 
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You wrote: &quot;Seriously, how many coastal nations do you think ACTUALLY HAVE sonar monitoring of their coastline?&quot; 
 
 
These? 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_navies&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_navies&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the poster “DavidB” : </p>
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<p>You wrote: “All these comments about noise, have you even CONSIDERED the user of such technology may care not a whit how much noise they leave behind in the ocean?” </p>
<p>You mean that once the SEALs are wet again, “nothing more” can happen to them? Or to the big submarine that picks them up? </p>
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<p>You wrote: “Seriously, how many coastal nations do you think ACTUALLY HAVE sonar monitoring of their coastline?” </p>
<p>These? </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_navies" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_navies</a></p>
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