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	<title>Comments on: VTOL JSF Arrives at Pax River</title>
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		<title>By: MBT Shoes Clearance</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/vtol-jsf-arrives-at-pax-river/#comment-200724</link>
		<dc:creator>MBT Shoes Clearance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 13:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: puma</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/vtol-jsf-arrives-at-pax-river/#comment-197537</link>
		<dc:creator>puma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One time a lonnnng time ago I was assigned TAD to the MAAs on a ship. Well, getting bored, my partner and I went out to the garbage sponson to watch em throw trash overboard (hey, you gotta find your pleasures wherever you can, they sold out of Playboys in the store). So here comes a guy with a trash bag and as soon as he got ready to heave it overboard, the bottom fell out and a bunch of those ‘one dollar bottles’ I mentioned fell all over the sponson. So here I am, we’re both looking at the bottles, but it would not be a ‘good bust’ (\“they told me to empty the trash, I don’t know nothing\”) so I told him to clean up the mess. Oh yeah, on the Coral Sea, one time I went down into the Officer’s mess for some reason and on the tables I saw wineglasses with a ‘dark fluid’ (Hint) inside. Now I don’t know about you but using a wine glass with ‘nothing’ in it is very strange. I played like the Sergeant on Hogan’s Heroes. \“I don’t see nothing\”. Oh yeah, did any of your crew use NYQUIL (which is 25% alcohol) to uhhh, take care of their colds at night? I know, it’s a secret. And so is the one about the Scope mouthwash in which the contents got changed, more kick. http://www.buy-supra-shoes.org I’m not condemning or justifying, I’m stating facts. Now, I will admit that after we pulled out of port and I had the duty and I maybe didn’t feel so great oncet or thrice, but drunk, No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One time a lonnnng time ago I was assigned TAD to the MAAs on a ship. Well, getting bored, my partner and I went out to the garbage sponson to watch em throw trash overboard (hey, you gotta find your pleasures wherever you can, they sold out of Playboys in the store). So here comes a guy with a trash bag and as soon as he got ready to heave it overboard, the bottom fell out and a bunch of those ‘one dollar bottles’ I mentioned fell all over the sponson. So here I am, we’re both looking at the bottles, but it would not be a ‘good bust’ (\“they told me to empty the trash, I don’t know nothing\”) so I told him to clean up the mess. Oh yeah, on the Coral Sea, one time I went down into the Officer’s mess for some reason and on the tables I saw wineglasses with a ‘dark fluid’ (Hint) inside. Now I don’t know about you but using a wine glass with ‘nothing’ in it is very strange. I played like the Sergeant on Hogan’s Heroes. \“I don’t see nothing\”. Oh yeah, did any of your crew use NYQUIL (which is 25% alcohol) to uhhh, take care of their colds at night? I know, it’s a secret. And so is the one about the Scope mouthwash in which the contents got changed, more kick. <a href="http://www.buy-supra-shoes.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.buy-supra-shoes.org</a> I’m not condemning or justifying, I’m stating facts. Now, I will admit that after we pulled out of port and I had the duty and I maybe didn’t feel so great oncet or thrice, but drunk, No.</p>
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		<title>By: oisin</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/vtol-jsf-arrives-at-pax-river/#comment-190270</link>
		<dc:creator>oisin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the Marines need is a (preferably 2 seat) A10. Not sexy.Not terrifically expensive. Just ugly and effective. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Marines need is a (preferably 2 seat) A10. Not sexy.Not terrifically expensive. Just ugly and effective.</p>
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		<title>By: batvette</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/vtol-jsf-arrives-at-pax-river/#comment-189026</link>
		<dc:creator>batvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure what point you&#039;re arguing by fixating on the long term euro vs dollar relationship... I only mentioned the euro because I believe our actions there were partially to head off a threat to dollar hegemony on world petroleum sales. Against most world currencies- the Rupee, the Canadian dollar, the Yen, the Yuan since China stopped pegging it in 2005- the dollar has slid substantially in recent years. Would we look at the unit cost or development cost of the f-4, f-14, etc,to the JSF? What I was offering is that it&#039;s been nearly a decade between the two programs and a lot has happened to the financial situation that isn&#039;t apparant because they have to downplay it to keep it from happening faster. I think 2009 dollars are not the same as 1999 dollars and it&#039;s a lot different than simple inflationary adjustments in the past. In any case I doubt it would save money to walk away now and start somewhere else from scratch.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what point you’re arguing by fixating on the long term euro vs dollar relationship… I only mentioned the euro because I believe our actions there were partially to head off a threat to dollar hegemony on world petroleum sales. Against most world currencies– the Rupee, the Canadian dollar, the Yen, the Yuan since China stopped pegging it in 2005– the dollar has slid substantially in recent years. Would we look at the unit cost or development cost of the f-4, f-14, etc,to the JSF? What I was offering is that it’s been nearly a decade between the two programs and a lot has happened to the financial situation that isn’t apparant because they have to downplay it to keep it from happening faster. I think 2009 dollars are not the same as 1999 dollars and it’s a lot different than simple inflationary adjustments in the past. In any case I doubt it would save money to walk away now and start somewhere else from scratch.</p>
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		<title>By: batvette</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/vtol-jsf-arrives-at-pax-river/#comment-189017</link>
		<dc:creator>batvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know asbestos in most applications is perfectly safe. Most of the badly afflicted were old school brake maechanics and the bulk of them were smokers even. They&#039;d blow out brake drums with compressed air a dozen times a day, and smoke as many or more cigarettes. You think that would give them lung cancer? huh? Trial lawyers actually played down that aspect greatly so the jury would identify with the victims- the old &quot;it could happen to you just as easily&quot; mentality.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know asbestos in most applications is perfectly safe. Most of the badly afflicted were old school brake maechanics and the bulk of them were smokers even. They’d blow out brake drums with compressed air a dozen times a day, and smoke as many or more cigarettes. You think that would give them lung cancer? huh? Trial lawyers actually played down that aspect greatly so the jury would identify with the victims– the old “it could happen to you just as easily” mentality.</p>
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		<title>By: batvette</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/vtol-jsf-arrives-at-pax-river/#comment-189012</link>
		<dc:creator>batvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m pretty sure a lot of that stuff went on right under my nose but as I wasn&#039;t looking for it.......re: the trash incident- you, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i’m pretty sure a lot of that stuff went on right under my nose but as I wasn’t looking for it.……re: the trash incident– you, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/vtol-jsf-arrives-at-pax-river/#comment-188843</link>
		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>take a few material and processes classes in college and then you just might be able to understand that there are many different kinds of composites. and also get your mind around strength and hardness and brittleness. if its that hard, then it is dense, and if it is that hard then it is brittle. supporting the weight of an aircraft would take something flexible. it will be solved easily but dont think that yoou can just assume all ceramics are good heat insulators </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>take a few material and processes classes in college and then you just might be able to understand that there are many different kinds of composites. and also get your mind around strength and hardness and brittleness. if its that hard, then it is dense, and if it is that hard then it is brittle. supporting the weight of an aircraft would take something flexible. it will be solved easily but dont think that yoou can just assume all ceramics are good heat insulators</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/vtol-jsf-arrives-at-pax-river/#comment-188841</link>
		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at airshows. thats about it. it is the landing where the vtol capability comes into play </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at airshows. thats about it. it is the landing where the vtol capability comes into play</p>
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		<title>By: JimboJones</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/vtol-jsf-arrives-at-pax-river/#comment-188813</link>
		<dc:creator>JimboJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The F-117&#039;s being in mothballs with the wings taken off might be a hinderance to that plan...  There were only 59 (I think) of them too and airframe life must be high. If you mean a new build version, well that would have been nice a few decades back but today would not cut it in a modern threat environment.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The F-117’s being in mothballs with the wings taken off might be a hinderance to that plan…  There were only 59 (I think) of them too and airframe life must be high. If you mean a new build version, well that would have been nice a few decades back but today would not cut it in a modern threat environment.</p>
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		<title>By: nighthawk</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/11/17/vtol-jsf-arrives-at-pax-river/#comment-188798</link>
		<dc:creator>nighthawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not get the F-117 ready.  I haven&#039;t heard anything negative about them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not get the F-117 ready.  I haven’t heard anything negative about them?</p>
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