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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/12/07/a-cyber-pearl-harbor-day/#comment-215431</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that wasn&#039;t good. It needs more Info.plese put more. now. I need more info. But other then that it was great .THANKS. IT WAS READIBLE AND LOVEABLE BUT A LITTLE BIT SCARY BYE. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that wasn’t good. It needs more Info.plese put more. now. I need more info. But other then that it was great .THANKS. IT WAS READIBLE AND LOVEABLE BUT A LITTLE BIT SCARY BYE.</p>
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		<title>By: Philo</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/12/07/a-cyber-pearl-harbor-day/#comment-190246</link>
		<dc:creator>Philo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Oble, you need to come up with some new material bud. You&#039;re trolling skills are severaly lacking... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Oble, you need to come up with some new material bud. You’re trolling skills are severaly lacking…</p>
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		<title>By: Oble</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/12/07/a-cyber-pearl-harbor-day/#comment-190178</link>
		<dc:creator>Oble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Kevin begging terrorists for a Cyber Pearl Harbour to justify his company&#039;s services. Talk about a new low. 
 
But unluckily for Kevin, the bombing of the pacific fleet didn&#039;t occur shortly after the invention of the pop gun.  There was a long history of aerial attacks on ships that preceded the operation not the vague unsubstantiated and outright fabricated &quot;attacks&quot; that cyber consultants wave their hands at. 
 
If it was 1941 Kevin would be lobbying congress to divert millions of dollars to defend against japanese rice paper balloons with his patented bottle rockets. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Kevin begging terrorists for a Cyber Pearl Harbour to justify his company’s services. Talk about a new low. </p>
<p>But unluckily for Kevin, the bombing of the pacific fleet didn’t occur shortly after the invention of the pop gun.  There was a long history of aerial attacks on ships that preceded the operation not the vague unsubstantiated and outright fabricated “attacks” that cyber consultants wave their hands at. </p>
<p>If it was 1941 Kevin would be lobbying congress to divert millions of dollars to defend against japanese rice paper balloons with his patented bottle rockets.</p>
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		<title>By: Philo</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/12/07/a-cyber-pearl-harbor-day/#comment-190017</link>
		<dc:creator>Philo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think cyber warfare will be used most effectively in conjunction with tangible military action, I.E. Israel/Syria, Iraqi insurgent cell phone/PC hacks by US, etc. There is always going to be the chance that civilian systems will be hit by a major attack, but so long as these attacks on civilian infrastructure do little more than shut down the DMV, or WH.comfor a few days, people will pay little attention to it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think cyber warfare will be used most effectively in conjunction with tangible military action, I.E. Israel/Syria, Iraqi insurgent cell phone/PC hacks by US, etc. There is always going to be the chance that civilian systems will be hit by a major attack, but so long as these attacks on civilian infrastructure do little more than shut down the DMV, or WH.comfor a few days, people will pay little attention to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Valcan</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/12/07/a-cyber-pearl-harbor-day/#comment-189986</link>
		<dc:creator>Valcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the likly hood that cyber attacks will be used in negotiations and talks much more likely. Say china wants to take control of a select group of island. 
 
They start messing with the power grid. Not much, just enought to get officials to take notice. And american politicians and diplomates do what there best at. Betrey our allies for our enemies. And we wake up and still dont see we have lost the power to control our country while mentioning all the power outages latly. sigh </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the likly hood that cyber attacks will be used in negotiations and talks much more likely. Say china wants to take control of a select group of island. </p>
<p>They start messing with the power grid. Not much, just enought to get officials to take notice. And american politicians and diplomates do what there best at. Betrey our allies for our enemies. And we wake up and still dont see we have lost the power to control our country while mentioning all the power outages latly. sigh</p>
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		<title>By: Brian B</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/12/07/a-cyber-pearl-harbor-day/#comment-189967</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you know they cannot? Or are not? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know they cannot? Or are not?</p>
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		<title>By: Ptsfp</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/12/07/a-cyber-pearl-harbor-day/#comment-189983</link>
		<dc:creator>Ptsfp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do face a problem like we faced during Pearl Harbor.  
 
For the most part, people are ignoring the signs, warnings and penetration attempts. China is our number one trade partner, and Obama is trying to make new relations with Russia and playing with North Korea &amp; Iran all in the hope of working things out. At the same time, they are probing our nets and trying to install back doors in critical infrastructure systems. I am reminded of the Peace medals that Japan was giving the US while her aircraft carriers were getting into position at Pearl. 
 
For the most part the US problem is complacency. As long as we can get to Facebook, Google and watch videos on Youtube, all is well. The government is starting to take action, but unless we, as a nation, respond together, we may be in for a digital Pearl Harbor.  
 
When the attack was over, the sleeping giant, America was awoken. As the Americans attached the Japanese peace medals to the bombs dropped on Japan, we need strong response capabilities, clear legislation and unified action. 
 
- Ptsfp </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do face a problem like we faced during Pearl Harbor.  </p>
<p>For the most part, people are ignoring the signs, warnings and penetration attempts. China is our number one trade partner, and Obama is trying to make new relations with Russia and playing with North Korea &amp; Iran all in the hope of working things out. At the same time, they are probing our nets and trying to install back doors in critical infrastructure systems. I am reminded of the Peace medals that Japan was giving the US while her aircraft carriers were getting into position at Pearl. </p>
<p>For the most part the US problem is complacency. As long as we can get to Facebook, Google and watch videos on Youtube, all is well. The government is starting to take action, but unless we, as a nation, respond together, we may be in for a digital Pearl Harbor.  </p>
<p>When the attack was over, the sleeping giant, America was awoken. As the Americans attached the Japanese peace medals to the bombs dropped on Japan, we need strong response capabilities, clear legislation and unified action. </p>
<p>- Ptsfp</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has someone read  
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance189.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance189.html&lt;/a&gt; ? 
Please, Pearl Harbour was never a surprise. Stop insulting history. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has someone read<br />
<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance189.html" target="_blank">http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance189.html</a> ?<br />
Please, Pearl Harbour was never a surprise. Stop insulting history.</p>
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		<title>By: Valcan</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/12/07/a-cyber-pearl-harbor-day/#comment-189977</link>
		<dc:creator>Valcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This administration has done very little helpful sence it began. Heck most of what it proclaims is just that. A proclamation for us either to follow or just window dressing. Obama understands better than any politician ive seen that to rule the american people (and even many other nations) all you have to do is lie. Then call the oposition liers, racist or anything else negative. So he makes statments and talks alot. 
 
Anyways i think Ryan has the best idea. And its one ive had before id like to hear why its not possible. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This administration has done very little helpful sence it began. Heck most of what it proclaims is just that. A proclamation for us either to follow or just window dressing. Obama understands better than any politician ive seen that to rule the american people (and even many other nations) all you have to do is lie. Then call the oposition liers, racist or anything else negative. So he makes statments and talks alot. </p>
<p>Anyways i think Ryan has the best idea. And its one ive had before id like to hear why its not possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Taylor</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2009/12/07/a-cyber-pearl-harbor-day/#comment-189956</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the convenience of having all of our critical infrastructure like, water, electricity, natrual gas, etc, accessible by networks worth the risk of them being so vulnerable? 
 
History has shown us that if someone creates a barrier or wall, that in time it will be overcome.  What if we just avoid it all together by not allowing remote access to critical systems?   
 
Why can&#039;t a piece of criticial infrastructure like a hydro-electric dam for example, have a closed local network only?  The network can be accessed by any PC on the network on site at the dam, but it has no ability to connect to outside networks (i.e. no internet access)  
 
Have all of the critcal controls and overrides on site of course, and if you need to view data from the site simply open outbound ports only, or have some kind of relay that transmits but does not receive data.   
 
I am no expert on the subject and I am sure that there are other processes that remote access to and control of are critical.  I&#039;m just throwing this out there for debate and hoping to see some more ideas and opinions from others as a result. 
 
Are we really worried about  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the convenience of having all of our critical infrastructure like, water, electricity, natrual gas, etc, accessible by networks worth the risk of them being so vulnerable? </p>
<p>History has shown us that if someone creates a barrier or wall, that in time it will be overcome.  What if we just avoid it all together by not allowing remote access to critical systems?   </p>
<p>Why can’t a piece of criticial infrastructure like a hydro-electric dam for example, have a closed local network only?  The network can be accessed by any PC on the network on site at the dam, but it has no ability to connect to outside networks (i.e. no internet access)  </p>
<p>Have all of the critcal controls and overrides on site of course, and if you need to view data from the site simply open outbound ports only, or have some kind of relay that transmits but does not receive data.   </p>
<p>I am no expert on the subject and I am sure that there are other processes that remote access to and control of are critical.  I’m just throwing this out there for debate and hoping to see some more ideas and opinions from others as a result. </p>
<p>Are we really worried about</p>
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