Comments on: In Search of a Better Sling http://defensetech.org/2009/12/16/in-search-of-a-better-sling/ The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security Sat, 26 May 2012 02:10:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kilroy http://defensetech.org/2009/12/16/in-search-of-a-better-sling/#comment-191129 Kilroy Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:45:13 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5225#comment-191129 Could you please not cross post so much? I already have these other blogs in my rotation. Create your own (non-political) content. Could you please not cross post so much? I already have these other blogs in my rotation. Create your own (non-political) content.

]]> By: Brando http://defensetech.org/2009/12/16/in-search-of-a-better-sling/#comment-191110 Brando Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:46:29 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5225#comment-191110 The problem though is that when you let go you now have the weapon dangling and bouncing around. The only way to make them work is to have some way to stow the weapon. This is the advantage of the adjustable 2-point sling: you can slide it to your weak side and tighten it to secure it properly for hands free. I've seen guys downrange with single points being beaten to death because their rifle is bouncing all around while they frantically help do something that requires both hands (climb a wall, drag someone to safety, help with a stretcher, etc). The problem though is that when you let go you now have the weapon dangling and bouncing around. The only way to make them work is to have some way to stow the weapon. This is the advantage of the adjustable 2-point sling: you can slide it to your weak side and tighten it to secure it properly for hands free. I’ve seen guys downrange with single points being beaten to death because their rifle is bouncing all around while they frantically help do something that requires both hands (climb a wall, drag someone to safety, help with a stretcher, etc).

]]> By: Eric Daniel http://defensetech.org/2009/12/16/in-search-of-a-better-sling/#comment-191112 Eric Daniel Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:24:14 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5225#comment-191112 Paul, if by durability, you’re referring to the 5.11 VTAC, I had the same question. The photo provided doesn’t give a good view of the hardware. A commentor over on KU said he uses one as a police officer and that he did in fact bend the coupler during training (applied too much force) but that he was able replace the damaged ring with a smaller and stiffer one. Regarding my buddy’s rig, yes, it appeared to be a pretty sturdy lash up and I’d have had no qualms about taking it out. One piece of kit I did tumble on to was the Dedicated Push Button (DPB) by Blue Force Gear <a href="http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=218." target="_blank">http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fus...</a> I think this is exactly the thing I’m looking for. For all intents and purposes, the DPB is really a quick disconnecting sling swivel that has a simple nylon sling run through it. If I don’t care for the sling itself I can ditch it and replace the strap with something else, since the item I’m actually looking for is that push button swivel. Paul, if by durability, you’re referring to the 5.11 VTAC, I had the same question. The photo provided doesn’t give a good view of the hardware. A commentor over on KU said he uses one as a police officer and that he did in fact bend the coupler during training (applied too much force) but that he was able replace the damaged ring with a smaller and stiffer one. Regarding my buddy’s rig, yes, it appeared to be a pretty sturdy lash up and I’d have had no qualms about taking it out. One piece of kit I did tumble on to was the Dedicated Push Button (DPB) by Blue Force Gear http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fus… I think this is exactly the thing I’m looking for. For all intents and purposes, the DPB is really a quick disconnecting sling swivel that has a simple nylon sling run through it. If I don’t care for the sling itself I can ditch it and replace the strap with something else, since the item I’m actually looking for is that push button swivel.

]]> By: Ben http://defensetech.org/2009/12/16/in-search-of-a-better-sling/#comment-190872 Ben Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:16:15 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5225#comment-190872 Try <a href="http://www.militarymorons.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.militarymorons.com/</a> left side menus, Weapons, Slings. Good, interesting, informative site. Try http://www.militarymorons.com/ left side menus, Weapons, Slings. Good, interesting, informative site.

]]> By: Paul http://defensetech.org/2009/12/16/in-search-of-a-better-sling/#comment-190869 Paul Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:18:45 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5225#comment-190869 Eric I checked out that push button single point...Are you sure you want that? Was your friends rugged enough to shoot move and communicate with? I don't know but just from the pictures I see that thing getting busted up real quick... Eric I checked out that push button single point…Are you sure you want that? Was your friends rugged enough to shoot move and communicate with? I don’t know but just from the pictures I see that thing getting busted up real quick…

]]> By: Tim http://defensetech.org/2009/12/16/in-search-of-a-better-sling/#comment-190865 Tim Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:34:09 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5225#comment-190865 Anyone got suggestions for an M1A socom 16 sling? what about a Mossberg 590A1 SPX ... both guns seem too heavy for single point setups. Anyone got suggestions for an M1A socom 16 sling? what about a Mossberg 590A1 SPX … both guns seem too heavy for single point setups.

]]> By: Zandor http://defensetech.org/2009/12/16/in-search-of-a-better-sling/#comment-190864 Zandor Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:57:49 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5225#comment-190864 I would suggest that you try a boot string. Tie it from the front sight to wherever it can be tied to the stock. Try it, you might be suprised how well it works. I used this for a time, then I decided to just carry my weapon ( Car 15 ) in my right hand and forget about straps, slings, and anything else that would catch on the vegetation. . I would suggest that you try a boot string.

Tie it from the front sight to wherever it can be tied to the stock. Try it, you might be suprised how well it works.

I used this for a time, then I decided to just carry my weapon ( Car 15 ) in my right hand and forget about straps, slings, and anything else that would catch on the vegetation.
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]]> By: Eric Daniel http://defensetech.org/2009/12/16/in-search-of-a-better-sling/#comment-190861 Eric Daniel Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:09:19 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5225#comment-190861 Brando, In my case, The only time i use a sling is when I'm admin. If I'm out and about, be it training or RW mission, I always detach the weapon from my body. If a situation ever arises where i just need to simply let go of the weapon in a hurry to use both hands, then I'll just let the weapon go. I don't know if this comes from growing up on tanks where straps and things could snag on things in the turret and get you killed, but I'm just not a big fan of the 2 and 3 point slings. Now, obviously they are very popular, and lots of folk use them, and I'm sure they're all smart folk, so they have there reasons. I'm not saying that if I had to choose between razor tape and a 3 point sling I'd take the razor tape, but my preference would be for a 1 point sling. Brando, In my case, The only time i use a sling is when I’m admin. If I’m out and about, be it training or RW mission, I always detach the weapon from my body. If a situation ever arises where i just need to simply let go of the weapon in a hurry to use both hands, then I’ll just let the weapon go. I don’t know if this comes from growing up on tanks where straps and things could snag on things in the turret and get you killed, but I’m just not a big fan of the 2 and 3 point slings. Now, obviously they are very popular, and lots of folk use them, and I’m sure they’re all smart folk, so they have there reasons. I’m not saying that if I had to choose between razor tape and a 3 point sling I’d take the razor tape, but my preference would be for a 1 point sling.

]]> By: Otter http://defensetech.org/2009/12/16/in-search-of-a-better-sling/#comment-190842 Otter Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:52:27 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5225#comment-190842 Right now I'm using, and very much like, the Black Hawk Storm Sling. Had it for about two years and has worked well. However, Magpul just released a new single point sling that looks like it will be on my weapon after Christmas. I'd check that out first. Otter Right now I’m using, and very much like, the Black Hawk Storm Sling. Had it for about two years and has worked well.

However, Magpul just released a new single point sling that looks like it will be on my weapon after Christmas. I’d check that out first.

Otter

]]> By: AT4 http://defensetech.org/2009/12/16/in-search-of-a-better-sling/#comment-190858 AT4 Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:46:16 +0000 http://defensetech.org/?p=5225#comment-190858 3 point sling with a quick release buckle is the way to go IMO. Secure for administrative weapons handling, easy to ditch during action. Can also be used as a 2 point. Versatile. 3 point sling with a quick release buckle is the way to go IMO. Secure for administrative weapons handling, easy to ditch during action. Can also be used as a 2 point. Versatile.

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